I used a drawing.
I also used 2 sets of feeler gauges and just adjusted whatever one was
next up when I turned the cam.
I discovered 2 things that I hope to remember for next time.
The 2nd from the last valve - (exhaust on #5 I think) required that I
use a different wrench. I have the special
I put a dab of "White-out" on the valve stems as I adjust them. Once all
have a white dot on all of them I'm done! ;-)
LarryT
91 300D
78 240D
On 7/9/2014 12:35 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them.
Made it easy to keep track of what
I think that one went to his pay portal.
clay
On Jul 9, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Meade Dillon wrote:
> Kent Bergsma had a you tube video "how to" for valve adjustments that I
> can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the
> largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to s
Rick, thanks, that's the video I was thinking of.
I had the author wrong, and down in the comments is one from the author
about turning the valve spring retainer to adjust the valve clearance at
the TIGHTEST (?) point. That didn't make sense to me, I would imagine that
the retainer would trend to
Sounds vaguely like this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFhaRefTRUM&sns=em
Rick
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From: Meade Dillon
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Yes, that was why it caught my attention. I think it was in the video of a
'79 300SD that he had "tuned up" by advancing the injection timing and I
think he also advanced the camshaft timing with an offset key.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Jul 10, 2014 12:08 AM, "Craig" wrote:
>
>
> Never heard
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:47:27 -0400 Meade Dillon
wrote:
> Kent Bergsma had a you tube video "how to" for valve adjustments that I
> can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the
> largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec, and then
> double check by rotating
Kent Bergsma had a you tube video "how to" for valve adjustments that I
can't find now. He showed how the big nut should be turned until the
largest gap is found, and then you adjust the gap to spec, and then double
check by rotating that big nut around again.
Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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engine a little each time, how much work could it possibly be? Hooking up the
remote starter is way more work.
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Tha
E: All of the Above
--R
On 7/9/14 3:40 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Either you're making a strange joke or you're the strangest person I know.
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Ouch.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Fred Moir wrote:
> Andrew, et al.Just call me Frodo.(3 fingers)
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:00:03 -0400
> > From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >
Andrew, et al.Just call me Frodo.(3 fingers)
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:00:03 -0400
> From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
>
> That's the one! Seriously, if the battery is discon
ne if you don't have the
> > STOP lever tied down?
> >
> > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400
> > > From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ
'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the
STOP lever tied down?
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400
From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
Yeah. It's the remote
ir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400
> > From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
> >
> > Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to align
> >
Y'mean the one that accidentally starts the engine if you don't have the STOP
lever tied down?
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:07 -0400
> From: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
>
rk.
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
That requires way too much effort IMO.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
> Oh. I can position the cam shaft fa
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Scott Ritchey
> wrote:
> >
> > > Clicker?
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Andrew
> > > >
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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:25 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
>
> Yeah. It's the remote starter you hook up to turn the engine to ali
rcedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> > Strasfogel
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
> >
> > It helps to have a clicker as well. I used to adjust the valves
Clicker?
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 3:05 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
>
> It helps to have a clicker as
t: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 12:35 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
> >
> > I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did
> > them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from
> > missin
ehalf Of Dan
> Penoff
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 12:35 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] adjusting valves
>
> I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did
> them. Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from
I used to make a little map of the valves and cross them out as I did them.
Made it easy to keep track of what I had done and kept me from missing one. I
also did all the intakes at one time and then all the exhausts. That way you're
working with the same set of gauges.
Dan
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I have no real fear of doing it. It is a bit of a dirty job but I have
become a nitrile glove believer so I should avoid getting black fingers
if I am careful.
I have done valve adjustments on many vehicles over the years but never
on the diesel. It no doubt has needed it for a long while and I
I would add that the gap will change as you tighten the jam nut. So measure
the gap before you loosen it. Guess at the required adjustment and do it
then retighten and measure. After a few valves you'll get good at guessing
and dial each one in with only one or two attempts. Also, I make a pict
Randy,
I avoided this job for a long time having my Indy do it instead. I finally
tackled it last summer on my '78 240D. I don't know what kept me all these
years it was super easy. I think I followed the Diesel Giant procedure but
they're all about the same: http://dieselgiant.com/valveadjustm
If you're setting valves on a diesel, you want the cam lobe to be 180 degrees
(opposite) the flat spot on the follower. That's not necessarily "straight
up". I eyeballed it for years and never had a problem. Straight up is not
usually 180 degrees out.
Dan
On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Randy
> Curt wrote:
>
> Today I tried adjusting the valves, I'll not try that again until
> I get a proper set of wrenches...
I use normal flat wrenches - except I have one ground thinner.
> I found the intakes all slightly loose (0.13mm) except for one
> that was perfect.
Loose is good! Too loose
Thanks. I noticed a decided difference in engine running between stone cold
(overnight sit) versus warm adjustments. I always wondered why, or if it was
something that I was doing wrong. I've gotten to where I can adjust them on the
street in <30 mins (It has gotten a question or three from the
John Robbins wrote:
The plate on my car says if above a certain temp use xx values or if its
below that temp use... etc. (I don't remember the values or temp, but
know that I've always needed the 'cold' ones). IMO, its been two years
since the valve adjustment was done the little itty
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Why not simply run the engine, long enough for it to reach some uniform
temperature, shut it down, and just as it cools enough to work on it safely,
do the adjustment? That should allow doing it above the freezing
temperatures of the day, and also have some mercy on the
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Why not simply run the engine, long enough for it to reach some uniform
temperature, shut it down, and just as it cools enough to work on it safely,
do the adjustment? That should allow doing it above the freezing
temperatures of the day, and also have some mercy on the
I've gotten really huge latex gloves and put them on over knit garden gloves
before, it doesn't kill your dexterity as much (and it is not like you need
TONS of it for a valve adjustment)
I hear you kicking and screaming over bending overin the cold. Insulated
coveralls help a bit, but I am sti
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:54:51 -0500 "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Why not simply run the engine, long enough for it to reach some uniform
> temperature, shut it down, and just as it cools enough to work on it
> safely, do the adjustment?
Because that will have even worse tempera
In a message dated 1/18/2007 3:31:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20
degrees F, or would it be a no,no?
I have not done the valves in 2 yrs and I don't have a heated garage.
Absolutely ok.
, you would want to warm the tools beforehand, also!
Werner
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Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjusting valves in cold weather
On Thu,
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:57:25 -0800 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather,
> > say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no?
>
> No. You won't enjoy it. (Otherwise no problem.)
>
> I recommend you plug in the block heater for a co
Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather,
say 20 degrees F, or would it be a no,no?
No. You won't enjoy it. (Otherwise no problem.)
I recommend you plug in the block heater for a couple
of hours, your fingers will thank you.
-- Jim
But if it's -10C when you adjust them,
THE ENGINE AND THE WRENCHES ARE TERRIBLY COLD TO THE TOUCH! bur!
I'll be waiting until the temps climb a bit although it's probably 6oC or
42oF here, balmy compared to much of the country right now.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 265k miles,
"John W. Reames III" wrote:
>
>
> for intake, add 0.05mm for extended ambient temps below -20C
But if it's -10C when you adjust them, there's no reason to add
more clearance. You will have a bit more clearance at -10 than
at room temperature (+20C).
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Roger Conlon wrote:
> Would it be OK to adjust the valves on a 85 300D in cold weather, say 20
> degrees F, or would it be a no,no?
> I have not done the valves in 2 yrs and I don't have a heated garage.
Intake is [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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