Holy moley! First test of Revolution versus Metacard

2006-08-31 Thread Shari
Now that I have Revolution up and running and Metacard 2.7 up and running I thought I'd open my biggest fully finished project and see how it fared with both. With all the new additions to Revolution since my version, I thought I'd work in Revolution for a little while to help me learn what

First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread Shari
As for the Revolution IDE itself, I am impressed with the changes since the last time I looked at it. They have definitely refined it a lot. It is more concise than it was. Not as spread out. Everything you do does not open yet another window :-) I must go off to the icky work today. So I

Re: Holy moley! First test of Revolution versus Metacard

2006-08-31 Thread Tereza Snyder
On Aug 31, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Shari wrote: Now that I have Revolution up and running and Metacard 2.7 up and running I thought I'd open my biggest fully finished project and see how it fared with both. ... The stack opens. But the Revolution IDE does not like that I have standard stacks

Re: First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Shari wrote: As for the Revolution IDE itself, I am impressed with the changes since the last time I looked at it. They have definitely refined it a lot. It is more concise than it was. Not as spread out. Everything you do does not open yet another window :-) I must go off to the icky

Re: room for an open source alternative

2006-08-31 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello Richard and y'all, ... so it would seem there would be room for an open source alternative -- maybe. Hear! Hear! ;-)) We are on the same wavelength in this regard. :) As you all know, I'm making steady progress towards this goal, e.g. an open-source multi-platform xCard that takes

Re: First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread FlexibleLearning
Aaargh! Richard... Noo! And thrice nooo! I am very, VERY happily using mc 2.66 and 2.72. We may be small in number, but we are here! I have yet to apply myself to OSX2.7 stacks or standAlones (will have to refer to the notes), but so far I still remain wed to the mc IDE with no plans

Re: First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaargh! Richard... Noo! And thrice nooo! I am very, VERY happily using mc 2.66 and 2.72. We may be small in number, but we are here! I have yet to apply myself to OSX2.7 stacks or standAlones (will have to refer to the notes), but so far I still remain wed to

Auto MC setup stuff

2006-08-31 Thread John Vokey
Sorry, Richard, I did mean to reply in the affirmative: a one-click solution for setting up MC would be welcome. On 31-Aug-06, at 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be interesting to learn of anything you find there that's attractive. MC is getting old, and the more they make

Re: room for an open source alternative

2006-08-31 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alain Farmer wrote: Hello Richard and y'all, ... so it would seem there would be room for an open source alternative -- maybe. Hear! Hear! ;-)) We are on the same wavelength in this regard. :) As you all know, I'm making steady progress towards this goal, e.g. an open-source

Re: First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread Tariel Gogoberidze
On Aug 31, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It would be interesting to learn of anything you find there that's attractive. MC is getting old, and the more they make radical changes to the engine the harder it is to set up. We can easily fix the setup stuff, but as my last question

Re: First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
Richard Gaskin wrote: Rev-based IDEs address an ultra-tiny market that's already fragmented as it is. I still can't get much work done in Rev, and I hear most of my clients curse as they use it, but if there's only three or four of us still using MC it does rather raise questions about the

Re: room for an open source alternative

2006-08-31 Thread Tereza Snyder
On Aug 31, 2006, at 2:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: In addition to the sort of layout and construction tasks the MC and Rev IDEs have traditionally focused on, my forked IDE (working name M2) will also include support for the superset of tasks ranging from project management to product

Re: First impression of Revolution IDE

2006-08-31 Thread Shari
It would be interesting to learn of anything you find there that's attractive. MC is getting old, and the more they make radical changes to the engine the harder it is to set up. We can easily fix the setup stuff, but as my last question here was asking who wants a simpler setup and it went

Re: Holy moley! First test of Revolution versus Metacard

2006-08-31 Thread Shari
But I'm curious, when would you need the message box in a finished application? Rev's message box, with its extra features, would hardly be suitable, though MetaCard's plain ole box would I suppose be more neutral. t The message box is for internal use only. I found it is easier to

Standalone build in MC

2006-08-31 Thread Shari
Attempts to create a standalone failed. I'm not sure if I failed in creating the Runtime in MC. Or if I failed in the Contents folder of the actual standalone that was built. I am assuming that this has something to do with the naming of things. Remember that I had to name the Revolution

Epiphany...

2006-08-31 Thread Shari
Had an epiphany about building the standalone with the Rev IDE. If the stack is closed, then there shouldn't be a conflict. And in MC, the stack does not need to be opened before building the standalone. So... launched Rev... but the standalone builder isn't accessible until you open the

Re: Holy moley! First test of Revolution versus Metacard

2006-08-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
Shari wrote: The stack opens. But the Revolution IDE does not like that I have standard stacks installed in the stack. (For ease of Standalone building, a long time ago I installed custom versions of Ask, Answer, Message etc. in the stack so that I would not have to import them every time

Re: Standalone build in MC

2006-08-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
Shari wrote: At the moment, Runtime engine is set up as follows: the application is called MetaCardCarbon.app, in the Resources folder it is MetaCardCarbonMach-0.rsc, and in the MacOS folder it is MetaCardCarbonMach-0. The Standalone Builder says: Can't Open Engine. Right, the

Re: metacard Digest, Vol 35, Issue 29

2006-08-31 Thread FlexibleLearning
Tereza wrote:Many of my tools pertain to managing projects: loading, saving, building, versioning, and archiving. Others pertain to image manipulation and color management. Does anyoneyou know the incantation to make a gif image with transparency say 30% darker then back again? This is

Re: metacard Digest, Vol 35, Issue 29

2006-08-31 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone you know the incantation to make a gif image with transparency say 30% darker then back again? This is for icons and a mouseOver that currently require two images, so two times the memory. Is there a method? The solution has to be cross-platform,