Re: UB standalones - update
Hi Richard, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm testing w/2.7.4, trying to make a standalone with the latest MC IDE. After following the steps to set up the runtime engines (as outlined in Ken's doc), I can build the standalone successfully but it doesn't run. What might I be missing? Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. How many of you are able to sucessfully make v2.7 builds in MC? I have no problems creating standalones for PPC and IntelMacs with MC and engine 2.7.4 on my old G4. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
I did once create a test UB standalone using engine 2.7.3 and MC IDE 2.6. I built it on an Intel. It did launch. Shari -- Gypsy King Software Mac and Windows shareware games http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
On Dec 6, 2006, at 1:54 AM, Wil Dijkstra wrote: Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. Here's my experience: Using Rev 2.7.4, I updated MetaCard per instructions and set up the runtime engines. I made a simple stack with only a quit button and built standalones for PPC and Universal. I modified the plists in both to name the correct executable. The PPC version works. When I look inside the bundle, I see an extraneous MetaCard.app file NEXT TO, not inside, the contents folder. I delete it. The TestPPC.app still works. The TestUB app appears briefly in the dock and disappears. There is an extraneous MetaCard.app in the bundle. I delete it. Still doesn't work. Permissions are correct. (The extraneous MetaCard.app in the bundles appear when there is already a built standalone at the destination location. If I delete the destination .app first, the extra copy doesn't appear. However, my ultimate goal is to upgrade my own standalone builder which changes only the executable within the bundle because I store all my app's files (e.g. LOTS of graphics) INSIDE the bundle. Whatever my motivation, I still cannot get the straight, normal MetaCard SB to make a viable UB standalone, much less my own refactored SB.) I'm using a PowerPC G5, MacOS 10.4.8. I don't have an Intel Mac to work with. Klaus, Jacque: Do you know what exact, specific difference there is between the PPC and UB build process? Or what incantation can make it work? I'm attempting to get my own Standalone Builder to work and it's... very [expletive deleted] frustrating . t -- Tereza Snyder Califex Software, Inc. www.califexsoftware.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
Tereza Snyder wrote: The TestUB app appears briefly in the dock and disappears. This is Richard's problem too. Sounds like a plist thing to me, but he did try my working plist and got the same results. So something else is going on, and since it doesn't happen to everyone it is hard to nail down. There is an extraneous MetaCard.app in the bundle. I delete it. Still doesn't work. Permissions are correct. One thing I always avoid is building on top of an existing build. At least until you get this figured out, I suggest always building to a folder that doesn't contain an existing copy of the standalone. (The extraneous MetaCard.app in the bundles appear when there is already a built standalone at the destination location. If I delete the destination .app first, the extra copy doesn't appear. However, my ultimate goal is to upgrade my own standalone builder which changes only the executable within the bundle because I store all my app's files (e.g. LOTS of graphics) INSIDE the bundle. The best way to do this (assuming you get the SB working) would be to build in a temporary location, then delete the executable file from the older app bundle, and copy the new executable into the older bundle. Then delete what's left of the newly built bundle. Whatever my motivation, I still cannot get the straight, normal MetaCard SB to make a viable UB standalone, much less my own refactored SB.) One thing to try would be to build your standalone from within Revolution. Set the standalone settings to create a plist for you. After the standalone is built, copy the plist that was created into the MC standalone-building app you made. See if you can then create a working standalone from within MC. I'm using a PowerPC G5, MacOS 10.4.8. I don't have an Intel Mac to work with. Klaus, Jacque: Do you know what exact, specific difference there is between the PPC and UB build process? The only difference is that 2 copies of the engine are inserted into the standalone, which means your UB standalone will be twice as large as a PPC one. Other than that, the build process is identical. However, if the thing launches and you see it in the dock briefly, I don't think it is a build problem, but rather a plist problem. Unfortunately, Richard couldn't get it to work using the same plist that works fine for me. That's why I suggest letting Rev create a plist for you as a template. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm testing w/2.7.4, trying to make a standalone with the latest MC IDE. After following the steps to set up the runtime engines (as outlined in Ken's doc), I can build the standalone successfully but it doesn't run. What might I be missing? Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. How many of you are able to sucessfully make v2.7 builds in MC? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation I tried to build standalone back in October following Ken's instructions MC IDE 2.7.1 and Rev engine 2.7.4-gm-1 OS 10.3.9 dual 1.8 PowerPC G5 PowerPC-32 build was fine UB build was successful but I was NOT able to launch it. It appears in dock momentarily and immediately quits. best regards Tariel ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm testing w/2.7.4, trying to make a standalone with the latest MC IDE. After following the steps to set up the runtime engines (as outlined in Ken's doc), I can build the standalone successfully but it doesn't run. What might I be missing? Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. How many of you are able to sucessfully make v2.7 builds in MC? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
I wrestled with it for a while and I believe I broke down and ended up making my standalone in Rev instead. Ray Horsley Developer, LinkIt! Software On Dec 5, 2006, at 6:55 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm testing w/2.7.4, trying to make a standalone with the latest MC IDE. After following the steps to set up the runtime engines (as outlined in Ken's doc), I can build the standalone successfully but it doesn't run. What might I be missing? Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. How many of you are able to sucessfully make v2.7 builds in MC? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: UB standalones - update
Richard Gaskin wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm testing w/2.7.4, trying to make a standalone with the latest MC IDE. After following the steps to set up the runtime engines (as outlined in Ken's doc), I can build the standalone successfully but it doesn't run. What might I be missing? Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. How many of you are able to sucessfully make v2.7 builds in MC? Since I talked to you, I've been trying to think what's different between my successful build and your unsuccessful one. Since I sent you both a plist and a standalone-building-app, it is unlikely to be the software. The only thing I can think of is that I'm on an Intel Mac and you aren't yet. Do you have to be running an Intel machine to build a universal? I wouldn't think so, but...? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: UB standalones - update
Title: RE: UB standalones - update No problem in creating in building a UB standalone with 2.7.4 with MC (I had to, because applevents did not work well with pre-2.7.4). I build it on a non-Intel Mac, and never tried to run it on an Intel Mac. I have my own plist, which I just copied from earlier (pre 2.7.4) builds. Wil Dijkstra -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wed 12/6/2006 12:55 AM To: Discussions on Metacard Cc: Subject: Re: UB standalones - update Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm testing w/2.7.4, trying to make a standalone with the latest MC IDE. After following the steps to set up the runtime engines (as outlined in Ken's doc), I can build the standalone successfully but it doesn't run. What might I be missing? Since then I've gone through the process a second time, downloading a new copy of the IDE, making a new runtime engine to build from, and even including Jacque's plist file which works for her to make sure it isn't that. Still no go. Tereza has mentioned a similar experience. How many of you are able to sucessfully make v2.7 builds in MC? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
