Re: I'm back!
The subject heading should have been: I'm home! ;-) Thank you all for the warm welcome. Special thanks to Ray, Richard, Jacque, and Hugh Senior. I will be in touch, :) Alain From: FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com To: metacard@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 1:43:41 AM Subject: RE: I'm back! Hey Alain! Welcome home! Ray, Richard and Jacque have answered you already so I'll not repeat... Just wanted to say hi :) and see you on the use-livecode-request list! Hugh Senior FLCo ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: I'm back!
Alain - I'll answer as best as I can, inline, below... On 9/20/2012 10:25 PM, Alain Farmer wrote: Hello, It's Alain, the HyperCard Pantechnicon host.. I have been using HyperCard since 1986, MetaCard 2.5 since 1996, but I never made the leap to RunRev, specifically LiveCode these days. Now I am seriously considering it, so I have some questions for y'all: * With MetaCard 2.5, above a [few] thousand cards, performance slowed down dramatically. Is Rev faster than this? Can Rev handle tens-of-thousands of cards? I believe so. Would it require Valentina? Does Rev support mySQL databases ? Drivers exist for some databases including Valentina. * MetaCard started in the UNIX world, was then ported to windows, then ported to Mac. Does Rev run on Linux? Does Rev run on Debian ? Yes to Linux. Not sure about Debian. * Rev's web plugin is available for which browsers ? FireFox ?IceWeasel? Chrome ? Unfortunately RunRev has discontinued all support of the plugin. It's currently broken with no plans from RunRev to fix it. * Is there a Rev licence that allows standalones ? If so, how much does it cost ? I think it's about $400. They might have lowered this fee. * Best way(s) to learn LiveCode ? Alain, as far as I can tell RunRev is concentrating all their efforts in the mobile app arena. You can of course still use Livecode to create traditional desktop apps, however, if you're looking to create web applications you're probably better off with something like Construct 2 which exports directly to HTML5. Regards, Ray Horsley Thanks y'all, and I hope that I will be joining you soon, :) Alain ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: I'm back!
On 9/20/12 1:25 PM, Alain Farmer wrote: Hello, It's Alain, the HyperCard Pantechnicon host.. I have been using HyperCard since 1986, MetaCard 2.5 since 1996, but I never made the leap to RunRev, specifically LiveCode these days. Now I am seriously considering it, so I have some questions for y'all: * With MetaCard 2.5, above a [few] thousand cards, performance slowed down dramatically. Is Rev faster than this? Can Rev handle tens-of-thousands of cards? MC is just a collection of stacks; the engine is the same regardless which stacks one uses for the IDE. Would it require Valentina? Valentina is supported, but not required. Does Rev support mySQL databases ? MySQL, SQLite, and ODBC are supported. If relationality isn't a key feature of your data you may also store data in custom properties, or in arrays run through arrayEncode for saving. * MetaCard started in the UNIX world, was then ported to windows, then ported to Mac. Does Rev run on Linux? Does Rev run on Debian ? LiveCode runs well on Debian, and Debian-based distros like Ubuntu, Mind, and others. It also runs well on Red Hat, and most other distros that meet the requirements list here under the Linux section: http://www.runrev.com/products/desktop-deployment/linux-desktops/ FWIW, I know split most of my development time between OS X and Ubuntu these days, and find recent versions of LiveCode very productive on Linux. Still not quite at feature parity with other platforms for a few things like video playback (QT dependency; also FUBAR on Windows without QT), but most core features run well. * Rev's web plugin is available for which browsers ? FireFox ?IceWeasel? Chrome ? RevWeb has been discontinued, primarily because of significant differences among browsers with regard to 32-bit plugins. * Is there a Rev licence that allows standalones ? If so, how much does it cost ? I believe all licenses allow standalones. * Best way(s) to learn LiveCode ? Start coding. :) You may also want to join the forums: http://forums.runrev.com/ Thanks y'all, and I hope that I will be joining you soon, :) Alain -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: I'm back!
On 9/20/12 3:25 PM, Alain Farmer wrote: * With MetaCard 2.5, above a [few] thousand cards, performance slowed down dramatically. Is Rev faster than this? Can Rev handle tens-of-thousands of cards? Would it require Valentina? Does Rev support mySQL databases ? For that many cards you should still use a database. Valentina is a commercial option but not required. LiveCode ships with drivers for mySQL, ODBC, Oracle, postgresql, and sqlite. * MetaCard started in the UNIX world, was then ported to windows, then ported to Mac. Does Rev run on Linux? Does Rev run on Debian ? Yes, though the Linux product has some catching up to do. There is more effort being put into it recently. Several people on the LiveCode list use Linux varieties exclusively and often offer help and support. There are some required libraries and not all combinations work perfectly. The engine is optimized for a standard Ubuntu installation. * Rev's web plugin is available for which browsers ? It's been discontinued. The last version only runs on browsers in 32-bit mode, which few do any more. * Is there a Rev licence that allows standalones ? If so, how much does it cost ? There are lots of options and all allow you to build standalones. They have just implemented a pay-as-you-go option that allows you to use the product by the month at a low cost, but if you plan to stick with it for more than a few months, the perpetual license is a better buy. The pricing grid is here: http://www.runrev.com/store/ * Best way(s) to learn LiveCode ? The scripting conference stacks, the User Guide, the dictionary, and most of all, the forums and mailing list. You won't have much trouble, you already know the language and syntax. Your biggest hurdle will be unlearning some HC things that are done differently for cross-platform compatibility. Thanks y'all, and I hope that I will be joining you soon, :) I hope so too. Most everyone is over there now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: I'm back!
Hey Alain! Welcome home! Ray, Richard and Jacque have answered you already so I'll not repeat... Just wanted to say hi :) and see you on the use-livecode-request list! Hugh Senior FLCo ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
