Dear Marcin,
Interesting results. The oxide shale is removed rather easily, but it will take
considerable more time to get the salts out of the deep cracks in the metal
portion of the meteorite. I suppose that 12 hrs will not be sufficient for such
a thick slice. I had best result after about
Hello Listees,
What is your opinion about this Taza specimen also offered on ebay by rozen111:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2292198278fromMakeTrack=true
To me it looks very similar to the Juancheng piece also offered by the same
dealer
I've been to Algeria several times in the past years and it is definitely
NOT the worst place in the world. There are some security problems for sure,
but I can assure everybody that we have always been welcome by the
authorities when crossing the border in and out, and also at the checkpoints
on
Thanks for those information!
Nice and documented as usual.
Kind regards,
Frederic B.
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Hello everybody,
I have created a
I am not quite sure what this is but there is one
amazing inclusion in it. This has been sent for
classification and should get done sometime next year.
These 14 pieces is all that I have so if it all sells
you wont get an opportunity to buy more after it gets
classified.
20% discount to list
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY:
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Dear list,
We have 90 eBay auctions under our meteoritelab seller name ending today
in just a few hours, many still at just 99 cents. There are bargains to be
had with these! There are many rare achondrites and planetary meteorites
along with the wide selection of ordinary chondrites and irons
Hi all
I'm sure you all noticed that I have a new email. I finally joined
the world of the fast and furious. The address is
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Wanted to thank everyone who purchased a copy of Hutchison
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MeteoriteTimes for December is now up and ready to read. We would like to
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OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Edging Out of 'Endurance' - sol 292-298,
December 06, 2004
Opportunity has completed its super-high-resolution imaging and other
remote sensing operations from the base of Burns Cliff, collecting
more than 985 megabits of
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/comet_machholz_041207.html
New Comet Now Visible to Naked Eye
By Robert Roy Britt
space.com
07 December 2004
A comet discovered earlier this year has now moved close enough to be
visible without binoculars or telescopes by experienced observers under
dark
Yes
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Is it against list policy to include an attachment with a post? I know I could
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Best regards,
Bill
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From: Michael Cottingham
To: Michael Cottingham
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: Fw: Metorite Sale 50% OFF Holiday Sale! BUY IT NOW!
Hello, (SALE STILL ON TODAY...Last Day!)
In my Ebay Store there are over 300 Meteorite specimens and 300 other
Hello List,
Follow the link below for more information about the subscription contest
for Meteorite magazine and pictures of the prizes. Anyone wanting to
donate more prizes to this good cause, contact me or Al Mitterling for details.
http://www.arizonameteorites.com/contest.htm
Thanks,
John
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Meteorite boom shakes Manning
By Helen Manusu
Manning River Times (Australia)
7 December 2004
I THOUGHT my time had come. I thought He was coming down to get me.
A still-shaking
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Dear List,
for everyone which is interested in beautiful chondrites I have made an
internetpage with some extremly unequilibrated types, carbonaceous
chondrites and other types from the Sahara-Strewnfields. Some of the pieces
have very rare classifications and belongs to the transitional groups
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/AlMahbas.htm
I uploaded some more pieces today, gorgeous olivine crystals.
Take a look even it you already bought one, these things are little gems.
All I really have left are small olivine crystals, so if you want some
larger pieces, I think John Birdsell or
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SPIRIT UPDATE: The Holiday Spirit is on Mars - sol 306-325,
December 07, 2004
During the 19 sols ending on sol 325 (Dec. 1), Spirit continued to
explore in the Columbia Hills. Spirit reached a position northeast of
a ridge called Machu Picchu
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Why they think that this can't be a meteorite (bolide) ???
For me its a foto of new observed fall of a single meteorite.
-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net
hello list
i have on road coming to me a stone from the new fall abaout 680 gr almost
compleat let say 70/100 compleat
i will take the best offer, so let me know your offer ,
photo available tomorrow
all the best
aziz
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Hi Marcin,
This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely
is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically.
--Rob
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Because meteorites don't make it to the ground with hypersonic velocities
unless they start out eight or more meters across, and the fireball from an
event like that would have lit up the sky, produced a long-lived smoke
trail, and created sonic booms heard for miles. At impact, it would have
When enlarged, it appears that the lamp on the pole has blown up. The dark
trail leading to it may be a spear on the lens as it did not change like the
image did (pixelation).
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I'm a technical idiot, but this trail looks so straight to me. With a
common standard objective, wouldn't have such a trail of such a large angle
be pictured at least slightly as a bow?
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This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely
is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically.
Peekskill and Nakhla didn't fall straight down either. Peekskill travelled
an additional 50 km AFTER ablation had ended. Nakhla was observed to
Actually, someone on that discussion list came up with a great answer which
is that when the lamp blew, what appears to be a trail is actually the
shadow line of the top of the pole.
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Meteorite passes over
By CLARE HAYES
Part Macquarie News (Australia)
8 December 2004
PORT Macquarie found itself in the path of a meteorite on Monday morning
as the
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Nevertheless, I don't think it is a meteorite. Probably just a bug
that flew in front of the camera. That would explain the bluriness
in the trail. And the 'explosion' would be an overexposure of the bug
from the camera flash.
Maybe some part of the lamp itself shot through the sky when it exploded
creating the streak?
Bill
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I'm a technical idiot, but this trail looks so straight to me. With a
common standard objective,
Hi All,
Earlier I wrote:
This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely
is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically.
Ron replied:
Peekskill and Nakhla didn't fall straight down either.
I guess it would have been better to simply say that a
The angle observed for the fireball trajectory is largely unrelated to the
angle the meteorite will strike the ground. It is perfectly possible for the
impact angle of a meteorite to be in the opposite direction of the entry
angle, since the final angle is determined primarily by wind.
The
The Peekskill fall is not difficult to model. The recovered piece was
falling nearly vertically at the end. It traveled 50 km after the end of
ablation because at that point its path was nearly horizontal, and it was
still at about 3 km/s. But that forward velocity was quickly lost to
Hi Rob,
You might want to take the Nakhla numbers, and work it backwards to try to
determine the intial entry conditions.
Ron B.
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p.s. The speed of sound at sea level is 340 m/s. This object would be
moving at Mach 59. Someone call NASA. Better yet, call the Air Force and
laugh condescendingly.
Again - bug = cult hero.
Cheers,
MDF
Two problems: 1) there is no smear in the frames before and after this
one, and 2) look
Ron-
I would argue that determining the angle of a fall from the sort of dent it
makes in a car is far from a precise science! To my own eye, the dent in the
Peekskill car appears to have been made by something striking largely from
above, not at any sort of shallow angle.
I have modeled
Here's the entry angle of Nakhla as reported by John Ball in 1912:
The direction of approach of the object was from the northwest, and
its track, marked by a column of white smoke, is said to have been
inclined only some 30 degrees to the horizontal.
Its *TRACK*, not its impact angle.
The angle observed for the fireball trajectory is largely unrelated to the
angle the meteorite will strike the ground. It is perfectly possible for the
impact angle of a meteorite to be in the opposite direction of the entry
angle, since the final angle is determined primarily by wind.
I would argue that determining the angle of a fall from the sort of dent it
makes in a car is far from a precise science! To my own eye, the dent in the
Peekskill car appears to have been made by something striking largely from
above, not at any sort of shallow angle.
Peekskill was more
The angle of impact truly tells very little.
When I arrived on Winslow St. in Park Forest 90% of the fragments that
shattered from a multi kilo individual that impacted in the street landed on
the south side of the St.
So I assumed that the meteorite had come from the north.
Then a few weeks
Hello everyoneWe have added several more specimens of the extremely
rare Al Mahbas pallasite to our website along with new photos of the
previous specimens. These specimens range from around 3 up to over 6
grams and are loaded with gorgeous olivine crystals. The interesting
thing about
Peekskill was only traveling 70 or 80 m/s at impact. I would fully expect it
to be deflected by the structure of the car. The relative positions of the
exit and entry wounds are probably a poor indicator of the impact angle. The
way that the metal of the trunk is folded makes me think that the
Peekskill was only traveling 70 or 80 m/s at impact. I would fully expect it
to be deflected by the structure of the car. The relative positions of the
exit and entry wounds are probably a poor indicator of the impact angle. The
way that the metal of the trunk is folded makes me think that
Here's a picture of the car with a familiar face. This is something very
rare folks...when was the last time you saw Al smiling;-)
http://www.nyrockman.com/pages/peekskill-today.htm
JKG
At 07:00 PM 12/7/2004, Chris Peterson wrote:
Peekskill was only traveling 70 or 80 m/s at impact. I would
Here's the entry angle of Nakhla as reported by John Ball in 1912:
The direction of approach of the object was from the northwest, and
its track, marked by a column of white smoke, is said to have been
inclined only some 30 degrees to the horizontal.
Its *TRACK*, not its impact
Nakhla did leave holes in the ground inclined to the vertical.
I have no problem with this statement. It was the claim that they
impacted at an angle of 30 degrees from horizontal that I disputed.
Best,
Rob
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Here's a picture of the car with a familiar face. This is something very
rare folks...when was the last time you saw Al smiling;-)
http://www.nyrockman.com/pages/peekskill-today.htm
Thanks for the link. I first met Al in 1993 at the Tucson show, and
he was smiling then, and
I've only subscribed to this list for about a week now, so I don't know
anything about the history
of this list. Has this weird, interesting, way out there crackpot site been
discussed before?
http://www.meteoriteman2000.com/index.html
I ran across it today when attempting to contact a bidder
Hey, Leave the guy alone! He did not know what all those drugs would do to
his brain! : )
Thanks, Tom
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Dear nonsigning post~cynapse, Tom, and list;
Got to keep the dumb hungry ones out of the out house.
Dave F.
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
Hey, Leave the guy alone! He did not know what all those drugs would do to
his brain! : )
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier
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G'day Folks,
I have just got approval and tomorrow I will be receiving a consignment of
Australian meteorites from a long time collector who wishes to sell part of
the collection. These specimens have all been cleared for export via a
Letter of Clearance from an Australian institution.
I am
Sorry, but isn't the explanation of the photo in the link at the end of the
description on the POD?
Cj Lebel
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