Re: [meteorite-list] Cold Asteroids May Have A Soft Heart(AllendeMeteorite)

2011-04-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Way too much stuff here to deal with all, but I have a word about 2 Pallas as a Carbonaceous parent body. Pallas has a silicate spectrum. A great many bodies do. It shows signs of olive and pyroxene, with low iron and water. If it resembles any Carbonaceous chondrite, it's a CR with no

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Optical telescopes can have very wide fields of view and are relative cheap to build and operate making them the obvious choice, especially in this cash strapped era. Most important, the photons are FREE. Unlike all those expensive electrons you have to buy for radar... Sterling K. Webb

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Meteorites USA
How much is the Earth worth? ;) Eric On 4/13/2011 11:35 PM, Sterling K. Webb wrote: Optical telescopes can have very wide fields of view and are relative cheap to build and operate making them the obvious choice, especially in this cash strapped era. Most important, the photons are FREE.

Re: [meteorite-list] Cold Asteroids May Have A SoftHeart(AllendeMeteorite)

2011-04-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb
It shows signs of olive and pyroxene, I meant OLIVINE, of course. when we got their... and THERE. Spell checkers don't catch these mistakes, only working brains, so... New rule: No more Posts after midnight. Sterling K. Webb - -

Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question‏

2011-04-14 Thread bill kies
This guy wasn't as starry eyed as others I've met. Just a family man in the suburbs trying to figure out what the heck happened. It sure looks like something whacked his house. He said the damage to the ceiling was caused by the concussion to the roof above. I'm not sure what kind of roofing

[meteorite-list] article request: Alderman on Australian Craters

2011-04-14 Thread Meteorite-Recon.com
  Unfortunately the archives of the Mineralogical Society are temporarily not available.   Perhaps someone can point me to a source or help me with a digital copy of Mineralogical Magazine, 1932, vol. 23 (March), pp. 19-32, it’s the article by Alderman on 'Meteorite Craters' I’m looking for.  

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 14, 2011

2011-04-14 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Smoke in the chondrulforest. Breathtaking. Best regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:49 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Richard A. Kowalski
On 4/13/2011 11:41 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: How much is the Earth worth? ;) Eric Hey Eric. I know this was a bit of a rhetorical question, but I'll add a bit more to this discussion for those who may not be familiar with the topic. Unless I missed something, the United States is the only

[meteorite-list] (Test)

2011-04-14 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica
Test (sorry, please delete) Zelimir __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] OH PA WV MD NJ Meteor 11:35 pm 13APR2011

2011-04-14 Thread drtanuki
OH PA WV MD NJ Meteor 11:35 pm 13APR2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/04/baltimore-md-meteor-1135-pm-13apr2011.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar? (Was: Cold Asteroids May Have A Soft Heart)

2011-04-14 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Eric, Will radar even work in space? If so, what's the range, and how would it work? Radar does indeed work in space. The Gemini mission used radar to practice spacecraft rendezvous in preparation for the Apollo lunar landings. As well, with the actual landings, radar was used

Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance

2011-04-14 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
I can't say that mixing up all their pictures/samples really instills me with confidence in a bill of sale from Bonhams! Graham On 14 April 2011 04:47, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Yinan I would have to agree the bill of sale from a world renowned auction house says it all.

Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question‏

2011-04-14 Thread actionshooting
Still sounds fishy to me. I don't see how it hit the roof hard enought to make plaster fall from concussion 2.5' away and didn't make a hole?? Concussion felt 2.5' away that is enought to do damage is a pretty strong force. Also looks like a lump of coal to me -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC

Re: [meteorite-list] For your enjoyment

2011-04-14 Thread actionshooting
OMG!! WoW!!! That is awesome. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: = Listers   Feast your eyes on a 2.57 gram Nakhla, crusted from the British Museum. Courtesy by The Count  

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Jim Wooddell
Stories like this have been around for the last 20 years. Yep...Found few dead people in the desert over the years. By the time they are reported missing, by the time we find them they look like burnt beef jerky. It is a serious issue. Where I live, I have seen 135 degrees and we are consistently

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Jim and List, You are about 60 miles away and you are right about it cooling down to only 110 degrees at night in the Summer. A friend of mine sent me a meat thermometer since he could not find a temperature gauge that exceeded 120 degrees. The National Weather Service shaves off 10 degree

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Chris Peterson
And you choose, voluntarily, to live in such a place? H. g Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/14/2011 9:06 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi Jim and List, You are about 60 miles away and you are right about it cooling down to

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Chris and List, Yes, the weather is excellent 9 months out of the year, I love the desert and you get somewhat acclimatized. I used to think 80 degrees was a little on the warm side, now 100 degrees feels perfectly comfortable to me. I only air-condition the house down to 84 degrees and

Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question‏

2011-04-14 Thread cdtucson
Bill, I admit. At the risk of being wrong, I tend to believe people and take them at their word unless I have reason to believe they are lying. In this case If that did hit his roof then I think it might be a meteorite. Cat Mountain meteorite also looked like a piece of coal. And everybody and

[meteorite-list] mifflin

2011-04-14 Thread steve arnold
Good day list.It was one year ago today that southern wisconsin was hit by a meteorite.Happy 1st birthday to MIFFLIN.  Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance

2011-04-14 Thread Brian Cox
Graham, Yinan, Shawn and list, I enjoyed Graham's response the best. I can't say that mixing up all their pictures/samples really instills me with confidence in a bill of sale from Bonhams! I'm with you Graham, and I hope they got the mix-up corrected before the auctions begin or some lucky

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread meteoriteguy.com
Working for 8 years in the Arabian desert taught me everything about safety. Water, you can never have too much in desert areas. Tucson for example 110 daily from June to august. You should Always have water, do not leave town without it as even changing a flat tire in that heat can be fatal. We

Re: [meteorite-list] Cold Asteroids May Have A Soft Heart(AllendeMeteorite)

2011-04-14 Thread Richard Montgomery
Hi List...I want to clarify that Elton did not specifically write me that ALL of the largest asteroids have already been located and I want to go on record to acknowledge this and apologize if I took his words out of context. It is an honor to read from you all! Richard Montgomery -

[meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance

2011-04-14 Thread valparint
Also, a bill of sale from an auction house is usually really good for authenticity and provenance since auction houses are supposed to guarentee the titles of items. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html

[meteorite-list] AD - Mifflin Stone - eBay Ending T-12H

2011-04-14 Thread fallingfusion
Good Afternoon... Just a reminder to anyone looking for a nice Mifflin stone, I have one on eBay which closes in ~12hrs. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270732732530ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Thanks for looking, and good luck to those who are bidding. Cheers... Ryan

[meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance

2011-04-14 Thread valparint
Yeah, way to go Bonhams! You da Provenance-Man!! Also, a bill of sale from an auction house is usually really good for authenticity and provenance since auction houses are supposed to guarentee the titles of items. Most of the lots have now been changed but still one does not seem

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Steve Dunklee
ouch! Yes heat is dangerous for us but to some extent it does help preserve meteorites. Try running a jack hammer in a 240 degree f rotary lime kiln for an hour or more to knock down an ash ring while your boots soles are melting into the floor. Or cleaning an aluminum furnace while its running

Re: [meteorite-list] ot?Was death by gps. Now cold kills too

2011-04-14 Thread Steve Dunklee
cold can also be deadly. We know many meteorites have been found at both poles. After spending two weeks on Mt Hood during a blizzard I wonder if there are other unexplored cold spots for meteorites? Your breath condenses around your mouth and nose. Your watery eyes from the wind cause tears to

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Jim Wooddell
Yeah//being a volunteer is tough!! People come here from all over the world to play for a few days and dream of living where I live everyday. It's a tough life. Millions of Snowbirds flock here in the winter to get away from where they live.yeah, it's tough out herefairly clean air, 99%

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Meteorites USA
I've got an idea. (imagine that) ;) Since funding for space programs and missions seems to be so damned hard to get, and budget cuts usually effect the space program first. Perhaps someone should package this program/mission as a defense program. A private company seems to get a government

Re: [meteorite-list] ot?Was death by gps. Now cold kills too

2011-04-14 Thread Steve Dunklee
I have to make a correction. Hard to breath is what it feels like but realy you are breathing faster and harder to get more oxygen. The faster you breath the more heat and water you loose. I remember covering my face under my parka hood and burrying it in the snow to thaw out the two inches of

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Eric, There is one crucial aspect of the radar problem that I don't think anyone here has yet explained which is the main reason it will never (and ~should~ never) be done. It's not about money or politics or priorities. It's about geometry. Anything that a radar can do in space, passive

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Steve Dunklee
heaven forbid they take away your guns! Whats next? Meteorites? They have been known to kill cows and dogs! Over 30k people in the good ol USA were killed by infections like antibiotic resistant staff last year.and hiv aids is the leading cause of death for people under 40years. The CDC groups

[meteorite-list] Safety Message of the week

2011-04-14 Thread Jim Wooddell
For the meteorite hunters - Gold Basin - Yesterday http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org/goldbasinsnakes.jpg ~2.9mb Be safe out there. Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Fast-Rotating Asteroid Winks For Astronomer's Camera (Asteroid 2011 GP59)

2011-04-14 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-118 Fast-Rotating Asteroid Winks For Astronomer's Camera Jet Propulsion Laboratory April 14, 2011 Video imaging of newly discovered asteroid 2011 GP59 shows the object appearing to blink on and off about once every four minutes. Amateur

Re: [meteorite-list] Safety Message of the week

2011-04-14 Thread Jim Wooddell
Oops... http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org/goldbasinsnake.jpg should work better... Jim On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: For the meteorite hunters -  Gold Basin - Yesterday http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org/goldbasinsnakes.jpg ~2.9mb Be safe out

[meteorite-list] WISE Delivers Millions of Galaxies, Stars, Asteroids

2011-04-14 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-117 WISE Delivers Millions of Galaxies, Stars, Asteroids Jet Propulsion Laboratory April 14, 2011 Astronomers across the globe can now sift through hundreds of millions of galaxies, stars and asteroids collected in the first bundle of data

Re: [meteorite-list] Safety Message of the week

2011-04-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Yep, we ran into a diamondback last weekend. They are out in numbers this time of year. We were hiking down two different trails when Zann radioed ahead that there is an angry sounding rattler protecting the wash she was hiking down. I laughed and asked what was the difference between a

Re: [meteorite-list] Death by GPS in desert

2011-04-14 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Adam, Chris, et al, Having been born in the desert I acclimated a long time ago. I recall some of the customs and practicalities I was taught by my elders and the Paiute indians native to the Mohave. Vehicles didn't have air conditioning as late as the middle sixties. It was an expensive

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
Let's see if this bounces... Thanks Rob. I had left out discussing the inverse square law on purpose, but you covered it well. Eric, As someone involved in the effort literally on a daily basis, I take this very seriously. It is not really hyperbole for me to say that my team and I are

Re: [meteorite-list] mifflin

2011-04-14 Thread Thunder Stone
List: I'm I correct in that Mifflin was the last recovered fall? Greg S. Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 04:31:48 -0700 From: stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] mifflin Good day list.It was one

[meteorite-list] Beware - Creatures of The Desert

2011-04-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Jim mentioned large bugs out here. I had one of these land on my head where I squashed it. What a mess. Another time, one landed on my sandal thinking it was a tarantula. After hearing how painful a sting is from one of these bad boys, I made record time getting it off of my foot. Link to

[meteorite-list] Trying to contact Joe Kerchner Ensisheim show

2011-04-14 Thread Zelimir . Gabelica
Dear List, Sorry to have to use this kind of contact. I am desperately trying to contact Joe Kerchner for a very urgent reason. Apparently he does not receive any of my numerous mails while I can read him perfectly. Possibly there is a problem with his mail box? Today, he tried to contact

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Meteorites USA
What about IR? What about funding a public or private RD company/group that might be able to modify existing, or create new technology for asteroid defense? A network of telescopes is a good start. We have that, and millions of amateur astronomers out there could look skyward too. How many

Re: [meteorite-list] Safety Message of the week

2011-04-14 Thread Ted Bunch
Well, yeh, it is mating season for some of God's creatures. Nice tail! Ted On 4/14/11 12:42 PM, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: Oops... http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org/goldbasinsnake.jpg should work better... Jim On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jim Wooddell

Re: [meteorite-list] Space Radar?

2011-04-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
Hi Eric, Sorry but I'll have to be a bit blunt here. Amateurs can NOT do what is required. A decade ago it was possible for amateurs to discover main belt asteroids with typical backyard telescopes. That golden age is long gone. To just keep up with the current state of the field, an

Re: [meteorite-list] Beware - Creatures of The Desert

2011-04-14 Thread Richard Montgomery
Hi List! With my entomological background, I can attest first-hand to the sting of the T-Hawkwhile collecting (insects) on the shores of Parymid Lake in Nevada, naturally I swept a large one into my net and my usual capture techiques escaped me as it also tried to escape me. It did; I

[meteorite-list] AD - Awesome Camel Donga, Tatahouine, Anomalous CV3, and more

2011-04-14 Thread Greg Catterton
Hi to all, I (like everyone else) am trying to raise some cash up. I have some really nice meteorites listed on ebay currently. Included is a NEW mesosiderite, NWA 6658 - which is a very neat meso and looks great cut or uncut. Several very nice Tatahouine up to 5g Camel Donga slices, end cuts,

[meteorite-list] Cleaning off some dust and dirt?

2011-04-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
All, The mailman delivered my latest acquisition today, a beautiful, oriented 98% crusted 107g Millbillillie individual. It does have same nice radial flow lines that I would like to bring out when I have a change to put it in front of the camera. I would like to 'clean up' some of the red

[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Mifflin, 1yr. almost to the minute

2011-04-14 Thread Joe Kerchner
I just want to remind everyone what happened exactly one year ago tonight(10:05pm)CST. I have many great lasting memories from that hunt (the entire experience). I met many of the people I idolize in this community, not only did I meet them, I got to hunt with most of them. I who could

[meteorite-list] The age of Mifflin. ?470 million years? Really?

2011-04-14 Thread Joe Kerchner
Hello all, It the 470 million year age for the Mifflin meteorite correct? if so, isn't that very young for a meteorite? I have been under the impression that the average age of a meteorite was 4.57 Billion years old I know that's an average, but isn't 470 million way too young? Theres no way

[meteorite-list] Major California Bolide Event Breaking Story 14APR2011 ~9:25 pm

2011-04-14 Thread drtanuki
Dear List, Breaking story: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/04/major-california-meteor-fireball-event.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] The age of Mifflin. ?470 million years? Really?

2011-04-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb
It's the usual reporter scramble that results when a scientist tries to explain something more complicated than Brittany Spears or Charlie Sheen to a reporter. Mifflin's an L chondrite. John Valley and Noriko Kita have done a lot of work on the fossil L chondrites of the Ordovician period, which

Re: [meteorite-list] Major California Bolide Event Breaking Story 14APR2011 ~9:25 pm

2011-04-14 Thread drtanuki
It turns out that it was an Atlas missile launch NOT a meteor as first reported. Dirk...Tokyo --- On Fri, 4/15/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Major California Bolide Event Breaking Story 14APR2011 ~9:25 pm To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Birth of Asteroids and Planets. (Was: The age of Mifflin. ?470 million years? Really?)

2011-04-14 Thread Meteorites USA
Sterling, List, When does age actually begin? Regards, Eric On 4/14/2011 10:24 PM, Sterling K. Webb wrote: It's the usual reporter scramble that results when a scientist tries to explain something more complicated than Brittany Spears or Charlie Sheen to a reporter. Mifflin's an L

Re: [meteorite-list] The age of Mifflin. ?470 million years? Really?

2011-04-14 Thread Richard Kowalski
--- On Thu, 4/14/11, Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ... Sorta like what you would say to a five-year-old. Always a good idea to talk to reporters like they were five-year-olds. Don't try to make them handle too much. Actually this is true, but not just for the