Guy Webster July 7, 2003
(818) 354-6278
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
Don Savage
(202) 358-1727
NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C.
JPL Release No. 2003-095
NEWLY LAUNCHED 'OPPORTUNITY' FOLLOWS MARS-BOUND 'SPIRIT'
NASA launched its second Mars
What does the list make of this?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2938937352category=324
No photo strange description, just made me wonder?
Regards,
Mark F
Hi list.I'm looking for a piece of nwa 100.30 grams or bigger!Let me know
off list.
steve arnold, chicago
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Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
Illinois Meteorites
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
Mark,
It is a Type 3 auction.(see link)
Best,
ken
http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/wrongs1.html
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All,
Thanks to those who replied to me off line.
The problem is greater than I expected and goes beyond the List and
ebay.
I checked with some AOL users who do
not even subscribe to any type of list or ebay and they
have had increasing spam coming directly to their email address starting
about 45
Darn!
The one I have for sale is only 100.2 g!
on 7/8/03 4:48 AM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi list.I'm looking for a piece of nwa 100.30 grams or bigger!Let me know
off list.
steve arnold, chicago
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Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
I. M. C. A.
on 7/7/03 8:29 PM, Rob Wesel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tell me if this guy's Gibeon don't look like a drumstick
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2182223475category=3239
Rob Wesel
---
Hi Rob,
Didn't I see this at the 2003 Tucson show? I thought I ate it.
Dear Tom,
Um.I hate to be the be the bearer of bad news but obviously you
didn't read the fine print in your contract.
You have to build a house and live there for 5 years before you can
claim ownership.
See? They're right on top of things, even in Mars! Sorry. :'
Regards, Marcie
A friend of mine from Brazil has come to posess this stunning piece and wants to sell. How should I advise him?
http://community.webshots.com/user/b0rtz
"African Iron Beauty . . . possibly Namibian" album
Regards,
Mark
Do you Yahoo!?
Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Advise him to send it to me for 40-50 years of research on it! I'm sure I
won't need it any longer than that.
David H.
--- Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A friend of mine from Brazil has come to posess this stunning piece and wants
to sell. How should I advise him?
List,
About six months ago, I was getting as much spam as I was getting mail from
this list. I changed my ISP and started off with a different email address
and had remarkable results. For the first three months, I got almost no
spam. Then the numbers started increasing. Maybe the solution
Dear Listees
There is an international protocol, the Open Skies Policy agreed to by many UN
member states that govern the use of space for remote sensing, transportation, and I
think, our use of
extraterrestrial objects.
Check it out
Dave
mark ford wrote:
Tom,
I believe there is some
Hi John,
from people with foreign sounding names wanting my
help to transfer several million dollars out of their
failing country into the USA. I feel quite
This is no lie and I am not exaggerating. I get that one, and it's
variants, several times A DAY!
It is really quite aggravating as
It is really quite aggravating as they keep changing their send from email
address, making it impossible to block.
I've noticed lately that spammers will alter the subject line too, to foil some filters.i.e., they will use "mort.gage" to counter someone who was filtering out the word
Yahoo's email system has a bulk mail folder that does a pretty good job of
filtering out spam. I still get ~50 junk emails a day, but almost all go
directly into the bulk folder. I just empty it without ever looking at it.
It's not a perfect solution, but it gets the job done.
David H.
---
Rob,
AOL and MSN both sell email addresses to companies
to offset costs of their services. MSN is in court now due to their PC discount
offers they were using in the statesbasically when you bought a PC at Best
Buy or Circuit City you would get $400.00-$700.00 off the price of the PC if
That would be 11:50:26 PM on March 26, local time/date.
Note that this is the time when the DOD satellite first detected it, when
it was still airborne and in its fireball phase. In these DOD reports, when
they say 'impact', they really mean 'impact' with Earth's upper atmosphere, not
the
The distribution from Olympia Fields/Park Forest to Steger/Beecher would
argue that the flight path was NW to SE or vice versa. The larger masses in
the Olympia Fields area would support the former. If they are correct I was
searching the wrong side of every building. Please enlighten,
That
Hello, John and the list,
the million dollar-mails are mostly from Nigeria and some
another African-countries. The ordinary letters of this kind
have long been known as Nigerian-letters. In last years they
have started to use also e-mails. You can get a mail from the
widow of Mobutu Sese Seko or
Dear Walter and John and List,
The U.S. Dept. of Energy since 1995, has had a Hoax page, that covers
every known and updated scam letter scheme and who you can report these
to, to eliminate them. It's good to keep and check in with every now and
then, and be aware of, Before you become a victim.
The DOD coordinates define the location of 183rd Street and Park Avenue on the south end of the Ravisloe Country Club in Homewood, Illinois.
Do you Yahoo!?
Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Olympia Fields to Beecher is 5.5 to 6 miles. If the bigs fall at the end
then the distribution goes SE to NW. I believe Paul Sipiera is working on a
recovery map.
--
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971
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Did anyone check the Calumet, Ravisloe, Cherry Hills, Flossmoor, Idlewild and Olympia Fields Country Clubs? Theylook to own most of the real estate in the Park Forest strewn field.
Do you Yahoo!?
Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Just try and get into the Olympia Fields Country
Club. What a hunting ground it would have been.--Rob
Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers
of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971
- Original Message -
From:
Mark
Jackson
To: Ron Baalke ;
Fun site with folks who had a bit of fun at the expense of the Nigerian Scam
spammers.
http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/
--
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971
__
Hello Peter and others,
This trajectory speed is very interesting, as this puts the Park Forest
radiant not too far
off (within ~ 20 degrees - but much LESS when radiant drift to a position
for April 7 is taken into account!) from that of Pribram-Neuschwanstein -
and
the speed is correct too! I
Hi List
Check out our summer sale on the Website - we've made a special selection
of some popular meteorites at really low prices. Go to
www.labenne-meteorites.com and click on the heading Today's Special.
Have a great summer!!
MLJLabenne
Labenne Meteorites
Meteorites for Science, Education
Marcie,
The URL you gave below is wrong...it should be:
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/.
Mark
- Original Message -
From: Marcia Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:09 PM
Subject: Re:
Rob,
All of the eyewitnesses I interviewed indicated a SE to NW flight
path.
Steve
--- Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The distribution from Olympia Fields/Park Forest to Steger/Beecher
would
argue that the flight path was NW to SE or vice versa. The larger
masses in
the Olympia Fields
Hello List, an easy explanation, on the ground looking up, it would be SE to
NW, but from a satellite looking down it would be NW to SE.: )
Thanks, Tom
Peregrineflier
The proudest member of the IMCA 6168
- Original Message -
From: Steve Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rob Wesel [EMAIL
DOD claims SW to NE, still doesn't fit. Looking from above or below , it
would make the strewnfield an X.
Distribution is NW - SE.
--
Rob Wesel
--
We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971
- Original Message -
From: Tom aka James
I am going to have to belive the satelite.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Steve Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite-List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] DOD Satellites Detect March 2003 Bolide Over
Park
The distribution from Olympia Fields/Park Forest to Steger/Beecher would
argue that the flight path was NW to SE or vice versa.
Or vice versa? That's 180 degrees in the opposite direction! It is interesting
you report that way though. It may be an observing effect depending on whether
the
Rob,
All of the eyewitnesses I interviewed indicated a SE to NW flight
path.
That's consistent with Rob's observations, but the DOD satellite saw it
traveling SW to NE. I'm not sure why there is a 90 degree discrepancy
in the flight direction between the satellite observations and the
Rob wrote: Just try and get into the Olympia Fields Country Club. What a hunting ground it would have been Hello Rob and list, Yes, I agree. Anyone want to join me for a par 87 hole. I think I couldspend enough time looking for alost ball to drive the cabby crazy. Mark Bostick
At 10:31 AM 08/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Yahoo's email system has a bulk mail folder that does a pretty good job of
filtering out spam. I still get ~50 junk emails a day, but almost all go
directly into the bulk folder. I just empty it without ever looking at it.
It's not a perfect solution, but
I am not debating the DOD satellite data, merely pointing out that the known
fall area, every piece I have heard of, fits a line from Olympia Fields to
Beecher. Hence the vise vera. That line goes NW-SE or SE-NW. I find it
interesting that an opposite trajectory angle has no confirmed recoveries
Dear Rex, list;
I am sure Mike did not mean to be rude. I too feel that as one who
chipped in to thank Art for providing us such an amazing forum for
exploring all phases of meteorites, it would be a hoot to see the prize.
I do hope we get to see the prize, the fun of giving is being in on the
Hi,
A little geometry here, gentlemen. The aiming point is not the center of
the strewn field. Assuming that fragments from the breakup have randomized
perpendicular vectors, you have a cone of dispersal oriented along the flight
plan.
Since the flight path is roughly 30% off the
In a message dated 7/8/2003 12:40:31 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I keep getting spam with tricky subject lines that are almost impossible
to filter. Lots of which are for pen_s enhancers and Viagra. I just
write them back and tell them that they obviously have the
Lets get this straitened out right here and now.
Let's go from the start. Park Forest fell, I rushed up there after being home
from South Africa for 24 hours! Anyone who has ever been on a meteorite fall
chase knows that it is chaos, and Park Forest, due to it's location in the
center of
Hello Everyone,
This looks very coincidental but tonight, within
the span of about an hour, I have received no less than 11 emails with virus
attachments. Nortons caught them all.
Most were from one "Lisa Rivers." Anyone
else?
-Walter
I got about 20, different name though, Norton
deleted them all.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message -
From:
Walter
Branch
To: Meteorite Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:47
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Numerous Virus
Received
Hello Everyone,
Hello Folks,
This whole thing has me a bit perplexed for several reasons. First, the stone my brother and I recovered had a distinct angle of entry that I saw and documented, and passed on to Mr. Sipiera. That trajectory definately indicated that the offending stone came in from the S.E. and
Dear List Members,
It looks like some are starting to realize the
secret of the Park Forest strewnfield, it is reversed. I think this has
happened only a couple times in history. I hinted at this in a June 15th
post to the list not wanting to take the element of surprise away from a person
Hi Larry and all,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a second trip I met with a man named Atul Kumar, He isn't a scientist but he has
been gathering info on the strewn field for the astronomy club that he is involved
with. He has compiled quite a list/map of stones that were recovered, including
Boy this is really getting heated.Alot of the biggest pieces of park
forest fell in the olmpia fields area.997 grams (7 stones), fell on the
property of my friend.He lives right by the golf course.And even if you go
behind the field on winslow st.,you can follow a pattern leading to the
nw.It just
The Portales Valley and Johnstown Strewnfields were
backwards.
I am confused about Park Forest though, the larger
pieces were all in the center to northern part of the strewnfield, if the
firebass came from the southwest to the northeast, would this not make it
perfectly correct?
Mike
Hi Mike and List,
I am repeating what I was told by a very informed
source and I agree it doesn't make sense. Since I have only seen three
partial plots that need to be merged I can not see the reversal effect that is
being authored by another List member, maybe he will comment. What I did
Glad to hear that, perhaps, I am not going
insane!--Rob Wesel--We are the music
makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka,
1971
- Original Message -
From:
Adam Hupe
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:17
PM
Hi Al,
Yes I saw the the meteorwrongs in his collection too, it was a bit disappointing, but he did not try very hard to convince me that they were meteorites when I told him they were slag. I asked if he was including them in his data and he said no. Is that really true? I don't know.
He did
Hi List, If you think about it a second. : ) With such a steep
entry angle the biggest pieces would not have to be at the far end of the strewn
field. The momentum that caries bigger pieces further would not be a factor,
they would be rather random.
Thanks, TomPeregrineflierThe proudest
Also, if the fall is SW to NE, and so far we see
most small stones to the south and south east of the large stones, would this
not also be affected by upper level winds? High winds can cause the smaller
stones to drift, meaning that this strewnfield would thus be perfectly normal.
Yes,
In a message dated 7/8/2003 11:59:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi List, If you think about it a second. : ) With such a steep entry angle the biggest pieces would not have to be at the far end of the strewn field. The momentum that caries bigger pieces further would not
Hello Again, to back up my last email;
"With such a steep entry angle the biggest pieces would not
have to be at the far end of the strewn field. The momentum that caries bigger
pieces further would not be a factor, they would be rather random."
If you shootthe same rifle twice with two
Mike,
Good answer, I was unaware of the Portales Valleys' peculiar entry. The way you just explained it makes perfect sense though.
There's my leaning lesson for the day!
Thanks,
Larry
The DOD says the fireball went like this
/
The recovery of pieces say they fell like this
\
The overlay then looks like this X or this
^
Mike's high winds could support the ^ overlay with
Olympia Fields being the apex, the largest stones are from that
area.
But those winds would have to be
Yes, and is not Chicago called "The Windy City" ?
We are not talking a very far off course. The
smaller stones seem to be less than a quarter to half mile to the east, that is
nothing when something is falling from space. Steger is just on the other side
of the road from Park Forest, not
Dear Mark and List,
As Mark was so kind to inform me, I gave out the wrong URL earler
today, for hoaxbusters. It is actually : http://hoaxsbusters.ciac.org/.
Thank you Mark, and please excuse the error folks. I'm not working off
a home p.c., but snailing it through with webtv, so alot is
Marcia,
Thanks by the way...it was an interesting site.
Mark
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From: Marcia Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Miconi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Sellers list, eBay name change
Dear
HI,
I guess I should correct myself before someone else does.
When I read the initial report about the direction of the fall I misinterpreted its message, and somehow turned a N.E. approach into a S.E. approach in my mind, accounting for my total perplexity! The relevant satellite information
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