Re: [meteorite-list] MeteoriteWatch.com Meteorite Giveaway

2008-02-05 Thread Mr EMan
Return of Son of sSteve now showing... sigh... MrEman Deja vue all over again...Yogi Berra --- Eric Wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MeteoriteWatch.com Meteorite Giveaway Hi all, I'm giving away another meteorite. I'll be giving away a very nice NWA 869 nicely fusion crusted

[meteorite-list] Return of Red Rain

2008-01-24 Thread Mr EMan
Just when you thought it was safe again to walk in the rain http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080122_red-rain.htm Eman __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Back to real meteorite subjects - iron inclusions ...crystals

2008-01-18 Thread Mr EMan
Just to jump on the me too bandwagon, I have a clean pentagonal-shaped cavity in a small Gao I got from Al Lang 8 years ago. The cavity is at least 10mm across and as deep. I was hoping I could keep going through Al's stash to find the missing crystal but nada. The shape is distinctly sided as

Re: [meteorite-list] Does this sound like possible bolide breaking up?

2008-01-17 Thread Mr EMan
Doesn't SOUND like a bolide. It sounds like NOTHING as in NO SOUND was reported ergo, it fails to meet the criteria for bolide. The report of lights turning into flames is very weak evidence of a meteor entry. These UFO reports rarely talk about sounds such as sonic booms even thought they

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Impacts May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics(OT)

2008-01-16 Thread Mr EMan
There is no evidence-- direct or inferred-- that the trace of the eastern shoreline of North America is impact influenced. While much of what you relate is sequentially correct it co-mingles 700+ million years of geological history into a related event. The Connecticut River Valley is a rift

Re: [meteorite-list] Neutron and proton release in large hyper-velocity impacts

2008-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Hello All, I believe Occum's Razor would suggest that any C14 spikes associated with impacts are more likely from enrichment while the asteroid is in orbit. As was mentioned previously, the C14 enriched region is concentrated at the asteroid's exterior which in turn is the material shed into

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) ebay and the dragon

2007-12-14 Thread Mr EMan
Steve you say that several People talked you out of selling it??? Oh.I seeGosh I was so wrong on that one. I thought that you canceled the auction just because the bid hadn't gotten over $181. I am so delighted that you cleared that up for us. Are any of those that you talked to about

[meteorite-list] Non Destructive testing of possible Iron Meteorites

2007-12-04 Thread Mr EMan
To test for exclusion, that is to exclude this from being a meteorite, my take is to determine the Specific Gravity ranges of Irons and the range for Ataxites. Conduct a SpGr analysis on the specimen. I would use distilled water given that it has been exposed already but if one chooses not to,

Re: [meteorite-list] Dueling Keyboards ....was Heidelbergensis-Zhamanshin dates

2007-11-20 Thread Mr EMan
Well... Well My take... This looks like a duel So duelly speaking, Andi, it was you who fired the first volley with your scathing attack with what you later renounced as your mistakes. Were this a duel you fired into Ed's back before even throwing down the glove. Ed, you've already been

Re: [meteorite-list] A question about crust.

2007-11-11 Thread Mr EMan
Ditto, Tom! The claim of any crust at all is misused! The crust proper has long since ablated away by wind action and the smooth surface is being called xx.x% fusion crust. What remains are the questions: is this done through ignorance or is it willful exaggeration to garner sales? If

Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas and the Dragon

2007-11-04 Thread Mr EMan
if it was Steve, youself or anybody else. I would feel the same- it is how I was raised. It is not in our business to ask- especially copying a public forum in front of everyone where he is open for ridicule. Mike --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then Steve is free to decline

Re: [meteorite-list] carancas

2007-11-03 Thread Mr EMan
How much did you pay for it Steve? Elton --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again list.Well I guess better late than never.It is not very big,but at the price it's going at, 1.18 grams,it is better than not having any.I just got my piece from mike blood.A very nice but

Re: [meteorite-list] carancas

2007-11-03 Thread Mr EMan
How much did you pay for it Steve? Elton --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello again list.Well I guess better late than never.It is not very big,but at the price it's going at, 1.18 grams,it is better than not having any.I just got my piece from mike blood.A very nice but

Re: [meteorite-list] ORIENTED SIKOTE-ALIN

2007-10-30 Thread Mr EMan
That isn't what I asked, and for the record I did say it was an attractive specimen. I asked you, Steve how it was oriented?-- not who said it was oriented. I'd like to be the judge on that based on your description/defense of your claim. I am still waiting for you to describe what features of

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve's 150-gram Dragon piece

2007-10-29 Thread Mr EMan
Steve Arnold (Chicago) wrote: ...one of the most beautiful and oriented meteorites that I have ever seen. OK... I'll bite-- Steve? how is this oriented? You've been collecting how many years? It may have flow features, the photos are fairly dark, but how do you justify calling this

Re: [meteorite-list] mail fall or not

2007-10-14 Thread Mr EMan
Hey Steve You've been PUNKED!! You are correctamundo!! You've caught us red faced. psst...Steve, it was all a setup and you've been punk'd! You, Mike, and Matteo were the only ones on the list that weren't in on it...te he he. It was Mike that we were trying to punk-- We thought he had far

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs Shock Veins Revisited

2007-10-09 Thread Mr EMan
--- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it has especially fine shock veins that branch like a little lightning bolt in the stone. Another distinction is that a filled fracture aka shock vein will be the same on each side--showing matching halves of any feature it transects. A

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs Shock Veins Revisited

2007-10-08 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Graham, Bernd, list While there is no technical definition of a shock vein so far as I know, it is in wide use and I hold it to be a version of a healed fracture; healed by the 1) injection or accumulation of adjacent wall melt where the filling material has an origin in high pressure, high

Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Sections of Carancas Meteorite Chondritic or not

2007-10-07 Thread Mr EMan
As to what Rob has raised--I did see several chondrules in the photos. This looks much like the friable L;s we have seen and contains slickensides which would tend to make it a monomyct breccia. However these large metal blebs are intriguing and might make this an anomalous stone. I didn't see

Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Titicaca meteorite-- phinally, photos

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Listoids and Listoid Emeritus Bernd --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, no chance under such circumstances. The Kirin (Jilin) meteorite main mass was found at a depth of almost six meters and this was only possible because the ground (loessal clay) was still almost frozen ... quite unlike

[meteorite-list] Online Geological /Geophysical /Topological Map resources

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
Having received some request for more online map information, here are some tips for locating free on line maps.(Primarily USA). The good news is that there is a federal program to publish digital products online that will provide complete national coverage. The bad news is that it is a federal

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs. Shock Veins correction Ringwoodite

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
I am so sorry Mia Culpa! I was covering writing several articles tonight and had a computer glitch along with a brain freeze. I lost something in the process. What I should have said was: Ringwoodite a mineral and is the spinel polymorph of olivine. Maskelynite is not a mineral but a glass

[meteorite-list] Entry Dynamics in Peru

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
As to the mention of dense atmosphere, doesn't 90% of the mass of the atmosphere lie below 2.5 miles above sea level/asl? I surmise that the shear(no pun) height of the ground there with the combination of a large meteoroid mass may have allowed for more retention of cosmic velocity then

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Dr. Richard Daniels is a pseudonym for RandallGregory

2007-10-04 Thread Mr EMan
Is this the Pete Pete that came to this list pretending to be two different people using two different email addresses? You know the one defending the name of him which shall not be said here( Hint :Gao)? The one who tipped his hand when he replied to a personal email to his pretend address

Re: [meteorite-list] Slickensides vs. Shock Veins..was Nice photos of Carancas Meteorite

2007-10-03 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Graham,List and-- Expeditionary Members, wherever you are It is an easy mistake in the broad scheme of things but the striation features in these photos are not shock veins but slickensides. Slickensides are the slippage surfaces of micro/macro faults where each side is ground down in

Re: [meteorite-list] YOUNGER DRYAS IMPACT THEORY -- ANOTHER PRESS RELEASE

2007-09-24 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Sterling, I am separated from my files so the exact figures/dates etc. are from memory. The gist is, I was studying a glacial anomaly in Northeastern Pennsylvania along State Rt.33 at the junction of US209 near the village of Sciota. Perched atop a high ridge/cliff is the remnant of a

Re: [meteorite-list] Peru crater-- maybe some iron

2007-09-21 Thread Mr EMan
Still unclear is why scores of residents reported falling ill shortly after the crater's discovery, but researchers say it could have been psychosomatic. In one report I read that this event excavated several carcasses of live stock which had been buried on the very spot. Havening been

Re: [meteorite-list] HOW TO CUT UREILITES?

2007-09-16 Thread Mr EMan
--- David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't say for sure but I bet my saw wouldn't have a problem with them. After all I can cut the hardest irons with little effort and most condrites cut like butter. However, my blade is .060 thick so cut loss would be greater. te he he-- I am skeptical,

Re: [meteorite-list] Martian Meteorite Heat Ablation?

2007-08-08 Thread Mr EMan
Be it remembered that one of the rovers: Spirit or Opportunity, captured the image of a meteor making it the first recorded meteor flash observed on another planet. Meteoroids do undergo compressional heating even in the thin Martian atmopshere Elton __

Re: [meteorite-list] [OFFTOPIC] Gentleman's Agreement

2007-08-05 Thread Mr EMan
--- PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You missed one point Jason. Something that was like gentlemen agreement The operative word is gentleman to which all parties must have historically gentleman-like qualities such as not lying, nor cheating, --Must have their word as their bond and their

[meteorite-list] Lost Meteorites(?) Announcing new Strewn Field in Pennsylvania

2007-08-05 Thread Mr EMan
The good news is I escaped with my cell phone, shoes glasses, underwear, and most of my blood and bodily tissues. The bad news (which includes meteorite related issues) everything else is in the wreckage. Late Friday night minding my own business driving down a 4 lane road my truck and trailer

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite sounds like, looks like, taste like...

2007-07-29 Thread Mr EMan
Zag, the salt box. Mike's mention of slickensides and the photos of the light gray matrix, uniformly small chondrules -- describes Zag, IMHO, and may have literally shared adjacent lots on the same parent body. I'm curious what analysis will ultimately show. Elton

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Mr EMan
One of the New England falls( Weston CT?) was reported to have formed a frost rind. Elton --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many other meteorites have been reported to be very cold? I know that Hvittis and St Michel if I recall were said to have frost on them almost immediately

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-28 Thread Mr EMan
If memory serves--One on the Martian stones was analyzed for its magnetic orientation and the reset of its magnetic field post fall and was found to never have reached 140°F deeper than 3-5 mm, indicating very little heat transfer to the interior and only a shallow intrusion. During the ablation

Re: [meteorite-list] Steve or New meteorite, which to discuss?

2007-07-25 Thread Mr EMan
How about both? Why didn't you take Steve to Columbia with you to do the barrio ground search? Sorry for butting in as this wasn't my week for responding to Steve. G Elton --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone want to hear about a new meteorite fall, or jawjack about Steve

Re: [meteorite-list] GPS--Garmin Rino

2007-07-13 Thread Mr EMan
As to Garmin units, I have settled on 3 units from the RNIO series for a the following reasons especially related to search party activities. The 110 is a basic GPS/radio grayscale screen on par with the eTrex. A bit jazzier are 120 and 130 also grayscale while the 520-530 have color screens.

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 30, 2007

2007-07-01 Thread Mr EMan
--- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone wrote: it is a ordinary chondrite not analyzed, probably L6 My Bad! As no one changed the subject line I thought we were still talking about the RSPOD for June 30th. Yes L6 is a fair guess for the other stone that was being discussed. My

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - June 30, 2007

2007-06-30 Thread Mr EMan
Someone wrote: it is a ordinary chondrite not analyzed, probably L6 Come on folks Has all the non technical meteorite talk on the list has buried what we learned in Met 101.. This is certainly no more than a 4 and certainly looks like a 3. The chondrules are far too many and far too

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) ESQUEL FOR TRADE

2007-06-24 Thread Mr EMan
Yo...sSteevee Do you realize that you are posting an AD/Giveaway/Trade EVERYDAY for the past 4 or 5 or more I lose track myself but then I shouldn't be the one having to keep count. Please please please (I am on Steve's blocked list so would one of his secret friends pass this along).

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) EBAY AUCTIONS 3 FREEBIES-12th self promo in 13 days

2007-06-03 Thread Mr EMan
In just the last 2 weeks:by my count this is sSteves 12th self promotional posting/AD/non AD/ explanation/apology/poor me/all of the above email to the list in 13 days. I am bewildered, sSteve, you missed a day. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] freebies and mini gao sales--AD?????

2007-05-26 Thread Mr EMan
Steve??? Is this the same sale you posted 2 days ago with the additional email to apologize for not putting AD in the subject line?---Just like you did not do in this advertisement? Steve what is wrong with this picture? Yeah you have a happy blissfully oblivious memorial day. Some of us that

Re: [meteorite-list] WHINNER OF CAMPO

2007-05-17 Thread Mr EMan
Good question and here is the analysis! It makes perfect sense if you know the history. There are many new folks that haven't had the fortune to have lived through a long history of the Chicago Swindler and his dealings. This is yet another of a long line of examples about how he doesn't EVER keep

Re: [meteorite-list] Hal Povenmire Contact Info?

2007-05-12 Thread Mr EMan
--- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to be argumentative, but to add some perspective, And Harvey Nininger was a high school biology teacher when he happened upon the meteorite bug. Buchwald - was and is a metallurgist. Elton

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-05-12 Thread Mr EMan
Maybe only the one name is gone...I saw three sellers today all in Southern Cali, hiding bidders, all using the same numbering convention using the same photos. Funny the models hands all look the same, so do the backgrounds! With hidden biding and these 3 sellers obviously being the same

Re: [meteorite-list] This is the funniest meteorite dealer I'veseen?

2007-05-05 Thread Mr EMan
Help me here someone, but dosesn't the nickel field test kit also react in the presence of iron and therefore is unreliable for evaluating the specimen for meteoritical origins? I noticed that this dealer is showing reactions to a reagent--which I assume is the nickel test. Elton --- ken

Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Plutonic Angrite The Mercury Question

2007-04-14 Thread Mr EMan
When considering possible parent bodies, be it remembered there is a theory that the population of the inner planets of the early solar system consisted of many smaller planets that swept each other up to form fewer but larger planets. We may find meteorites who's parent body has long since

Re: [meteorite-list] nwa 1685/that glossy fusion crust

2007-04-08 Thread Mr EMan
--- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an idea why or how this pristine meteorite got it's beautiful black fusion crust? Hummm just a SWAG here but ...atmospheric transit at 36,000kps±, raising surface temps to an excess of 1400°C± followed by rapid quenching of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Odd bit-o-metal

2007-04-01 Thread Mr EMan
Not up on the petrology of either numbers I'll make a SWAG. This looks like a bleb of mesosiderite. Elton --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a hard time getting a good photo of this feature, but here's a kind of oddly-shaped bleb of metal in a micromount of NWA 787

[meteorite-list] NJObject parent body located..(Humor)

2007-03-28 Thread Mr EMan
Does this object bring to mind the infamous New Jersey Object of recent debate? http://cgi.ebay.com/Campo-del-Cielo-Iron-Meteorite_W0QQitemZ170044012315 Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Crust Micrographs NWA 2371 Crystal Structure! Check it out!

2007-03-23 Thread Mr EMan
Taking time out during my expedition to the Wetumpaka astrobleme... --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The heating/ cooling caused the crust to crystallize like nothing I have seen before... Not picking on you Tom but I am using this as a segway to speak to fusion crust again. One of the reasons I

Re: [meteorite-list] a question on fusion crust

2007-03-21 Thread Mr EMan
The soot coating you are talking about is mostly freshly created magnetite (micro /nano crystals) from the oxidation of iron whilst passing through the incandescent phase. It adheres by magnetism and can be wiped off with rough handling. There is probably a carbon component however graphite

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Illinois meteorite

2007-03-19 Thread Mr EMan
Sigh...So we are back again to Irons having fusion crust. Sorry I don't see the fusion crust. Crust or no, this aborted art project does not have the hallmarks of being a meteorite. The statement that said this will be the 3rd Iron from Illinois sure came across as a meteorite announcement that

Re: [meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

2007-03-19 Thread Mr EMan
Thank you Steve for that cogent analysis. I'll try to not assume facts which are not in evidence. As to understanding the math I totally agree. I remember a time when one ad a day for a week plus addemdums( sometimes 2 per day) still equaled one ad per week. Must be that new darn math. Elton

Re: [meteorite-list] Forwarded AD - New Illinois Iron Meteorite?

2007-03-18 Thread Mr EMan
Sorry Bob but this one is bogus... Eman I have some exciting news as I have met a gentleman that may have found the 10th meteorite from Illinois and the 3rd Illinois Iron. ... The piece has to be tested before we submit it for classification. Heres a link to photos of the piece:

Re: [meteorite-list] Forwarded AD - New Illinois Iron Meteorite?

2007-03-18 Thread Mr EMan
--- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Ken, Michael and List, I concur with Ken. The meteorite appears to have been manufactured with a acetylene torch or forge and a sledge hammer or press. The mass has an unusual cross-section for a real iron meteorite and the thumb printing looks like

Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Mr EMan
Point of information, the IMCA doesn't vouch for nor authenticate meteorites--the SELLER does and, when you get down to stats that is the pretty much the way for 98% of ebay auctions. Bill, Do I detect from your snide wording that no one will nominate you for membership? Elton --- Bill [EMAIL

Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Tom, List, In the for what its worth category, the degree of fluorescence in feldspar chondrules is the means for defining the intermediate grades within the 3 grades,( e.g 3.1, 3.2 , etc.) I don't know what wavelength is the standard for that examination. If you've the fluorscent

Re: [meteorite-list] do meteorites fluoresce??

2007-02-28 Thread Mr EMan
DUH, e hummm My Bad! more Google less off the cuff, more Google less off the cuff---I think I have it now. Eman --- Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the property that is used to determine the petrologic types of chondrites is thermoluminescence (TL), not fluorescence.

Re: [meteorite-list] Graphite Nodule 1429g - surprize

2007-02-26 Thread Mr EMan
CD's found on and around the rim of Meteor Crater were subjected to much greater pressures than the fragments which fell off the swarm such as those found in Canyon Diablo. The explanation I was given was that the pressure was sufficient to convert some of the graphite into diamonds. These can

Re: [meteorite-list] Mica in meteorites....was Comet McNaught and Sodium

2007-02-25 Thread Mr EMan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CV3 chondrite Grosnaja contains sodium phlogopite, a phyllosilicate Well if this is so, a long standing factoid in the world of meteorites falls with this finding: Mica does not occur in meteorites. Seems some meteorites DO contain mica, and a mineral

[meteorite-list] Meso Origins...was Mesosiderite?

2007-02-18 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Gary,List As to the question of why mesosiderites don't contain chondrules... Mesosiderites are almost identical chemically. So much so, we believe they came from a single incident; that being the collision of two asteroids, at least one of them (if not both) was differentiated to the

Re: [meteorite-list] Mesosiderite?

2007-02-16 Thread Mr EMan
No, looks like an H-- apparent chondrules visible in photo. Elton --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have an opinion? Mesosiderite or not? http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/mesosiderite.jpg Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing

Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Lights, Low Sounds Cause Stir in Maine

2007-02-14 Thread Mr EMan
Many fireballs have a green hue and that is from atmospheric oxygen as determined through spectral analysis of meteors. Copper abundance in meteorites is rare. I used to think the green was probably from nickel. Elton --- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are the only two

[meteorite-list] USAF Satellite Fireball Reports?

2007-02-14 Thread Mr EMan
Pre 9/11 we were privy to fireball trajectory data from the US Air Force. They have satellites staring earthward for detecting launches and reentry. That resource hasn't been mentioned in a long time and I've misplaced the site URL. I seem to recall that a list member was our liaison for

Re: [meteorite-list] the hambledon pallasite

2007-02-08 Thread Mr EMan
WOW Dave! that seems to be a complete euhedral crystal Is that a spinel, magnetite, chromite? Regardless perfect crystal growth like this in a meteorite is ultrarare. Is this one of the pyroxene bearing pallasites? Inquiring minds. Really interesting piece, Congratulations. Elton --- Dave

Re: [meteorite-list] tucson show

2007-02-03 Thread Mr EMan
Thank you Steve Have a good trip remember the Natural History Museum in London and their meteorite exhibit. We'll be looking forward to bidding on the Tatahounie when you return. Unfortunately, you'll still be here to endure the thrashing the Bears will receive from Peyton. But don't let that

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching Iron Meteorites

2007-01-31 Thread Mr EMan
Dear Jerry, Why do you say WOW!? just WOW? I enjoy a good discussion like everyone else so imagine my disappointment in opening posts that just say Wow or Cool or Gosh... It is better to interact like this is a message board and not a chat room, in my opinion. If we all do so it will knock my

Re: [meteorite-list] Taenite vs. Kamacite... was RFS Picture of the Day

2007-01-21 Thread Mr EMan
Greetings Bernd, Mike, List: --- tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can you tell the difference between kamacite and taenite? Does the crystal structure give it away? So far as I can remember... Taenite (79.19 % Fe 20.81 % Ni) aka gamma-iron and kamacite (89.54 % Fe 10.46 % Ni)aka

[meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's... was Iron Falls NJO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Someone wrote: ...recovered recently after falling had been beautifully fusion crusted, ...(snip) Why anyone should doubt the existence of fusion crust on a freshly fallen iron is beyond me - have a look at Cabin Creek if you want proof that it still forms on smallish irons falling at terminal

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Listoids, Svend --- Dr. Svend Buhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:... I do not agree that the Glossary of Geology of the American Geological Institute is a sound reference for nomenclature and terminology of meteorites. GIST: For those that don't want to read the details, I am asserting that even

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
I defined glass in a previous post specifically as that which is formed from fuseing/melting silicates. Which is closest to your thrid definition of glassy. This isn't a discussion of commercial applications of glass or philosophical ones. You missed the point of this whole arguement that

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
Thanks for a cogent answer to my comments, Matthias. We are in violent AGREEMENT. I fear now that I will soon be the dead messenger beating the dead horse on this simple issue. I didn't select the term glassy for my argument. I pointed out that it was quoted from the web site's definition and

Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
U What part of silicated irons may form a fusion crust from my first post did you miss? (GEEZEEE It feels like I am defending my thesis all over again) Regards, Elton --- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List It occurs to me that many silicated irons exist. So, if it walks like a

[meteorite-list] WANTED: Ries belemnite/ impact affected fossils

2007-01-07 Thread Mr EMan
I am in search of a specimen of the Ries offset Jurassic age, belemnites. (Or other examples of shock affected fossils from elsewhere) OR, if you have a publishable photo of said specimens. If anyone has a specimen for sale or trade AND I am still inside the Brotherhood-- please contact me off

Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Object Crashes Through New Jersey Home

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
Why do we keep speaking of fusion crust on iron meteorites? Eman WNBC-TV here in N.Y. showed a clip of the rock yesterday, no fusion crust that I could see. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Seen IMCA control the not honest dealers or buyers

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
Number 1: I believe this is an issue between YOU and EBAY in accordance with the Ebay standard practice and terms of service agreement. Number 2: ... It is too overwhelming to put into words so this will have to suffice. Where do you get off complaining about a lack of honesty and integrity?

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 2828

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
128 hours... Ah ummm I believe there are several on ebay just now. --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list.Are there any small,30 to 50 gram complete individuals forsale?I have not seen any. __ Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
The Sardis Stone in Georgia is also a paleo meteorite well Paleo find I believe there is a smidgen of iron within the 12-20ft(?) diameter shale ball. Elton --- stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about lake murray? wasnt that dug out from solid limestone 100ft deep or so?

Re: [meteorite-list] Fossil, Relict, or Paleo- was Fossil NWA 2828

2007-01-06 Thread Mr EMan
Under this NomCom guideline NWA2828 isn't relict as it is hardly altered and should be referred to as a paleo meteorite. (Note:If this gets too drawn out all meteoritic material is paleo as most is 4.5 billion years old). However, paleo is a best choice of the three proposed terms. My take on

Re: [meteorite-list] Polujamki/Markovka pairing: second try

2007-01-05 Thread Mr EMan
There isn't enough information to reach a conclusion. The original masses and how they were assembled prior to fragmentation are missing values and presently beyond valid modeling. However, interesting observation. Eman --- Thaddeus Besedin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polujamki and

Re: [meteorite-list] Weird pic...Apollo 14

2006-12-22 Thread Mr EMan
I believe that this is a seismometer package--pretty sure by the grid in the background. The silver package on the left was a plutonium based(?) thermocouple powersupply(complete with an insulating blanket). I believe I read that the experiment is still transmitting. The streak ...well any Star

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-dealers.com DeRusse and company

2006-12-21 Thread Mr EMan
--- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I do not know who Mr. DeRusse is I don't think this applies to me. If oone wants to play with the big boys and girls meteoritically speaking one needs to know the material. This is yet another Meteorite 101 (ok maybe 201) subject one should

Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake

2006-12-21 Thread Mr EMan
Problem is David they failed to map the entire field -- just the lake and they didn't recover all the mapped fragments, or so I am lead to believe. I think there were less than 6 plots on land( all adjacent to the shore) out of what 300? plots on the lake surface. Yes perhaps we can project the

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-20 Thread Mr EMan
- From: Mr EMan How so? Elton --- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting hypothesis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell the metal-based ones probably would not be worth an air fill. but the carbon ones should be water

Re: [meteorite-list] Question

2006-12-20 Thread Mr EMan
--- abdelfattah gharrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if there were a resemblance of some criteria of certain meteorites with terrestrial rocks(basalt). the meteorites had the same processes of fusion and crystallization like the magmatic and volcanic rocks? Abdel. While there are differences

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-16 Thread Mr EMan
How so? Elton --- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting hypothesis. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: mckinney trammell To: Rick Davis ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]

Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake

2006-12-15 Thread Mr EMan
--- Rick Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was under the impression they would rust away and simply dismissed hunting underwater. (SNIP)Im just a rookie Meteorite hunter and new to the list, but have been working on the bottom for 37 years. Sorry to hear of your extended submerssion just

Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crust on Irons was AD- Coins etc.

2006-12-04 Thread Mr EMan
I am in agreement with Martin. This is a myth that we shouldn't allow to perpetuate on the list. An Iron/siderite my have an original ablation surface, as well as flow characteristics but won't have a fusion crust. There are many reasons I won't go into about why iron doesn't have the

Re: [meteorite-list] Essexite Gabbro Max size

2006-11-30 Thread Mr EMan
Good Question, Mark: Hap McSween author of Meteorites and their Parent Bodies and Department head at the UNIV of [EMAIL PROTECTED] did calculations for maximum and minimum sizes at launch that allowed a Martian meteorite to arrive on the ground. It had to be small enough to not flash melt at

Re: [meteorite-list] monomict vs.polymict

2006-11-30 Thread Mr EMan
Hello Steve, Listoids, These are the terms describing the composition of meteorite breccias not just Eucrites. Poly means plural-- or many, and mono means single. In a monomict all the clasts are of the same type and class (i.e. Lithologies). Meaning they came from a single parent body. In a

Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar? Met 101 Long Rant

2006-11-30 Thread Mr EMan
OK... a sanity check here. If it screams meteorwrong why list it in the collection of meteorites with the caption Possible lunar??? Such speculation cloaked in ??? is a disservice to novices who happen upon the photo when Googling and use that caption to justify their meteorwrongs. Maybe it

Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) another trade offer NO you are NOT sorry

2006-11-29 Thread Mr EMan
...NO you are NOT sorry or you would STOP it. I am tiring of hearing you say you are sorry then go ahead and do it anyway. Look...don't bother to say you are sorry or mention the nay sayers, don't explain why you think you should be exempt from self discipline, self restraint, or limits on ads

[meteorite-list] Pass Times other than posting meteorite sales

2006-11-29 Thread Mr EMan
Here is a suggestion for Helping an Illinois-based Meteorite dealer-non-dealer-collector-non-collector whatever. Steve are you listening? Try this to reduce your SALES posts. Find an alternative pass time like cooking... A Good Starter recipe. Print out for Reference: Alphabet keyboard soup

Re: [meteorite-list] valuable Nantan

2006-11-28 Thread Mr EMan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think i smell fish. Yeppers! shil-fish And why are these Nantans and Campos only found in museum quality? Where are the common ones? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)

2006-11-27 Thread Mr EMan
--- Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the 2 photos I posted last week, should anyone care to comment based on photos alone: Yeah I'll bite. The photos don't exclude this from being a meteorite and the empty depressions might be missing condrules. This doesn't look like an iron.

Re: [meteorite-list] A probable new Bencubbinite?

2006-11-27 Thread Mr EMan
That is my assessment! Some guys have all the luck. Please let us know the results. Elton --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello a my friend have give to me this item for analyzed. He have buy in a mineral shop years ago. In the label its write arrive from

Re: [meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester

2006-11-27 Thread Mr EMan
--- mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talk about complete misconception after misconception! Now show me where you can buy a 700GBq Po-210 source (without any'questions asked') and I will be worried, until then... PssstMark c'mere Opening rain coat to expose a shop's worth of trinkets

Re: [meteorite-list] S***** Steve Arnold Chicago

2006-11-24 Thread Mr EMan
Ok the gates of hell apparently have frozen over, I am stepping up to remind the membership that rules are rules and while I have violated them myself there is a prohibition against posting personal attacks, and we are in round 4 of the present one. Please take it off list else temper the

Re: [meteorite-list] Metal detector

2006-11-24 Thread Mr EMan
Jim, I think this is critical for the list as many of us are preparing for our next expeditions. Thank you for volunteering to do this for the group. Please put aside your other chores and start searching. Can you get this posted by next week since Christmas is right around the corner???

Re: [meteorite-list] Rusty rocks-- Lawrencite Disease, Trixie

2006-11-22 Thread Mr EMan
There is a name for this Rusty Rock condition which veterans of collecting know as Lawrencite disease. Lawrencite is the mineral Iron/Nickel Chloride (Fe,Ni)Cl2. In fact Lawrencite's type classification location was a Georgia USA Meteorite. Drying out a meteorite isn't an complete answer because

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