Re: [meteorite-list] "Lunar" for $200/g
I am not going to make any comment on wither it is genuine or not but for purposes of this email I will assume that it is genuine. Assuming its genuine $50 for shipping (Fed Ex?) dont sound excessive. I couldent ship anything from here fed ex for $50 for example. Note also that seller doesnt appear to be very ebay savvy and probably could use a tutorial on using ebay. He has the whole 256 gram meteorite started at $200 but from his description it is obvious that he wants $200 a gram (Actually a starting price of over $50,000) but he has actually started the auction at $200 for the whole thing (Ebay rules wont let you list it the way he wants to). Somebody (Aziz in morocco maybe) might want to help the poor guy out and explain to him how to list things the way that he wants to on ebay. Cheers DEAN PS: Of course A little more detailed description explaining why he thinks that it is actually a Lunar might be a little helpful to but I wont get into that --- On Wed, 30/12/09, Abdelaziz Alhyane wrote: > From: Abdelaziz Alhyane > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Lunar" for $200/g > To: "meteorite list" , "Richard > Kowalski" , "David Pensenstadler" > Received: Wednesday, 30 December, 2009, 3:48 PM > Didn't you notice he is from Tindouf, > high desert with no internet. > Cheers > Aziz > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, David Pensenstadler > wrote: > > > From: David Pensenstadler > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Lunar" for $200/g > > To: "meteorite list" , > "Richard Kowalski" > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28 PM > > Did you also notice that he wants $50 > > to ship it!? > > > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Richard Kowalski > > wrote: > > > > > From: Richard Kowalski > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] "Lunar" for $200/g > > > To: "meteorite list" > > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:45 PM > > > I found this new listing from an > > > ebayer with no feedback for "lunar" material > found > > this past > > > September > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yge5uv9 > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Richard Kowalski > > > http://fullmoonphotography.net > > > IMCA #1081 > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re photos
Send me your photos and I will post them for you Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- On Mon, 4/1/10, Pete Shugar wrote: > From: Pete Shugar > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re photos > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Received: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 7:06 PM > I have a couple of photos of todays > presentation > but since you can't send pics to the list, how do I show > them to everyone? > Pete IMCA 1733 > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions ending
I have a dozen or so auctions of some nice NWAs ending today and many are still bid at only a penny. See my ebay user id AMUNRE I have 340 meteorites on ebay so see my other items for more. I am in the process of clearing out everything in a planned move to Australia in a few months time so if you see anything in my ebay items of interest let me know and we might be able to make a deal Sincerely DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- Click ebay link here: http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQ_fsubZ4QQ_sidZ1598024QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: SIZE MATTERS - And Free Shipping
See here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/largesale.html All meteorites shown are over a kilo and really really cheap. I am moving to australia in a few months and would like to sell rather than ship them and big ones in particular I would like to sell off. I have some 30 plus Kilo EL3s on ebay (See my user id AMUNRE) that I am willing to do deals on also So if you want a big meteorite this is the page for you Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/largesale.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Wow. What a shock. I havent had a friend that close pass away since I was 17. Christian once gave me an ancient Roman coin that he had found himself just as a gift. Going to be a big empty space in Ensisheim and Munich from now on thats for sure. RIP my friend DEAN --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Sergey Vasiliev wrote: > From: Sergey Vasiliev > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > To: impact...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: h63str...@aol.com > Received: Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 4:54 PM > Hello list, > > I've got a personal email from Harald about Christian this > morning... > My day was all about my memory of Christian only... > > We (Christian and me) where (still are so far) about the > same age > > I asked Harald: "Let me know if I can help somehow"? He > didn't say a word so > far. > > This auction: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190363386113 > It was a Christian's stone I bought in Munich 2009... > > Everything over $3500.00 will be transferred to... > Harald, just let me know where I should transfer the diff > it in case of > sale. > > Time to sleep (or try to sleep), > Sergey > > > > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on > Behalf Of > impact...@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:57 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: h63str...@aol.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very > sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an > expert meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was > an Engineer, and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife > and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in > Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ > (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our > good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car > accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a > collector but a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, > because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich > that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu > and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of > my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends... > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: MARS at $295 A gram
I was planning on holding on to these for some time but I have a project on the go that requires money so am selling off my Mars stock. Over 20 grams available $295 a gram Uncut and $325 for cut (Cut slightly higher to help cover my cutting loss). In particular there are two really nice complete slices http://www.meteoriteshop.com/mars-sale.html Sincerely DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/mars-sale.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Museums Keeping meteorites dry
I am advising an institution here in New Zealand who is planning to put together a world class meteorite collection for public display. They already have a dozen or so meteorites on display (Mostly donated by dealers like Haag who has a "thank you" next to the specimens already there) but they are going to put together what will surely be New Zealands greatest meteorite collection when complete. The question is what should they be displayed in and what type of climate control is necessary. New Zealand dont get overly hot or cold so temperature will not be an issue but Kiwis go to London for a nice dry vacation where it doesnt rain all that much. It seems to rain all the time here and humidity is often very high. I have some ideas but please let me know what you think would be best and what meteorite types in particular need special climate control. They are putting the display together before acquiring the specimens so want to get it right from the start. Any advice or ideas that would help keep this public meteorite display from crumbling in the high humidity would be greatly appreciated Sincerely DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Dean's Ebay "Moving to Australia" Sale
Around once every five years it is commonplace for people to immigrate to a new country (Well, isn't it?). I have started packing now and should go within the next couple months. In an effort to raise some cash and sell off a few things so I will have less to ship I have put a 25% discount on all of my ebay buy it nows - including more than 300 meteorites. See my ebay user id AMUNRE for some great ebay deals (That might not come again for another five years) Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com click here: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=1&userid=amunre&include=0&rows=200&sort=3&completed=1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tsunami alert
Here in new zealand we are supposed to get hit in about an hour and a halfs time but there is none of the activity like you guys in Hawaii has and other than to avoid low lying areas there is no evacuation order. In some Islands down south is being taken more seriously Cheers DEAN --- On Sat, 27/2/10, Matthew Martin wrote: > From: Matthew Martin > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tsunami alert > To: "Gary Fujihara" , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Received: Saturday, 27 February, 2010, 11:09 AM > Things are getting pretty busy here > on Oahu. Lines at gas stations are horribly long and > several gas stations have run out of gas already. > Boats are evacuating harbors...The City & County has > evacuation busses going around the island. The coastal > roads will close in an hour. There's still crazy > people out surfing! And no, I'm not talking about > Gary. ;) Police helicopters are out telling the > surfers to go in… > > The Earth shook a lot yesterday... 8.8 in Chile last > night, a 7.0 near Okinawa yesterday (no tsunami generated), > and a 2.5 near the southeast coast of the Big Island > yesterday. The Okinawa earthquake is the largest > they've had in over 100 years. > > To my fellow list members in the islands, take care and > stay safe. > > Aloha, > > Matthew Martin > Kaneohe, Hawaii > > > > On Feb 27, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Gary Fujihara wrote: > > > Wow! Thanks for the link Darren. Looks > like Hawaii misses the brunt of the full force, but our > brothers and sisters in Marquesas, Tahiti and Samoa may feel > it more. > > > > On Feb 27, 2010, at 7:57 AM, Darren Garrison wrote: > > > >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:33:27 +, you wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> The sirens just went off; Hawaii is expecting > a tsunami by 11:00 a.m. locally. We have about 5 hours > to evacuate if needed. I'm bugging out after we pack > and will be offline for a while. The big problem > locally is if the power plant gets inundated, as it is in > the flood plain/ central valley of Maui. > >> > >> A computer model of energy released here: > >> > >> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/27/magnitude-8-8-earthquake-off-chile-coast/ > >> __ > >> Visit the Archives at > >> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > >> Meteorite-list mailing list > >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > Gary Fujihara > > Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) > > 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 > > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ > > http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html > > > (808) 640-9161 > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tsunami alert (Report)
Well, hundreds of people here in Auckland camped out on a hill waiting for the tsunami. A dozen or so people refused to heed the warning and graciously stayed on the beach so that we could all have good video. A cruise ship was moved from the pier and anchored off in the harbour and all ferries in the city was canceled. Hundreds of yachts was out in what is a stunning beautiful summer day today. Unfortunately the tsunami was a bust and nobody on the beach got nominated for a darwin award. We got 2 or 3 minutes of heavy waves in an otherwise beautiful calm day with the water like glass. See here the photo of the extent of the tsunami in Auckland. The calm was broken for a couple minutes and the waves never even went up the beach. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/pictures/tsunami.jpg We did however have a really nice picnic in the park with my two kiddies. You can see the tsunami in the background in this photo behind my two kiddies who are sitting on a WW2 gun. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/pictures/tsunami2.jpg Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] EBAY AD: Last day deep discounts on everything
Tomorrow I will be shutting down all of my auctions and wont be listing again for four or five weeks until I get set up after moving to Australia. Everything is discounted so grab a few deals now. Please pay as soon as possible as I have to pack all unsold stuff up for my big move. See my ebay user id AMUNRE Sincerely DEAN AMUNRE on ebay http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=1&userid=amunre&include=0&rows=200&sort=3&completed=1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ATTENTION: Scientists and Researchers Who Classify Meteorites.. Urgent
This is a serious reason why people dont bother with getting all data possible with meteorites. It would be great if some lesser standard would be accepted as a classification (Especially on common chondrites). Many people (Myself included) dont even bother with such issues anymore. I cant even get achondrites done within a year. I tried to start a classification service about 4 years ago after being promised a eight week turnaround by a couple places in australia but that unfortunately never worked out and we are no longer accepting new submission (Although the ones currently outstanding we have been promised "Within two months" for three years now. However, in a big cosmic coincidence, four years ago, when I announced the grand opening of my meteorite classification service Marvin Killgore on the very same day announced to this list that he to would within a very short time also have a for fee classification service that he would be doing himself as he was in conjunction with some institution and has the expertise and access to all of the equipment to do so. I would assume that since more than a few weeks have passed in the last four years since he announced the imminent opening of his fee based classification service that it is now up and running so I assume that the man to contact for classifications nowadays is Marvin Killgore. I dont have his email address but somebody should be able to find it easily I am sure. Sincerely DEAN --- On Tue, 30/3/10, michael cottingham wrote: > From: michael cottingham > Subject: [meteorite-list] ATTENTION: Scientists and Researchers Who Classify > Meteorites.. Urgent > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Received: Tuesday, 30 March, 2010, 3:32 PM > Hello, > > I am in need of a serious person or institution to classify > meteorites. I believe the time has come for a fee > based classification service to be offered. The revenue > gleaned from such activity could provide income to > work-study students, provide scholarships for students who > are studying the meteoritic sciences and most certainly the > fee could help offset the expense of such classifications in > the first place. > > The problem I have in recovering meteorites from the field > is that after I give a farmer $10,000 dollars for their > meteorite, I usually have to wait up to 2 years for the > classification results. This is not much of an incentive to > invest in many new discoveries. In fact, I have 4 new > possible recoveries that I could purchase, but not having a > timely classification service makes for difficult > choices. I usually just say to myself-I can't afford > to have 5k into this meteorite for 2 years with no return. > Does not make good business sense and overall not really > good for science either. > > I propose a $250.00 to $500.00 per meteorite classification > fee. Checks made out to whatever scholarship or > department fund you see fit. Done in a timely manner > of 3 months or less. Anyone out there interested, please > respond to me off list. > > Thanks and Best Wishes > > Michael Cottingham > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] PELISSON SLIMEBALLS STRICKS METEORITE COMMUNITY AGAIN
Here is a somewhat sad email that I received from a new ebay NWA customer last week. Like a majority of new collectors nowadays he started out on ebay and was doing research on meteorite to advance his meteorite knowledge and this website showed up telling him that terrorists were supporting NWA. After explaining to him how big of slimeballs these guys are and that they are outcasts in the meteorite community (Even banned from what I would consider the worlds most important meteorite auction - bloods tucson auction) he is OK with collecting again. I had somebody in my shop about two months ago who is a new meteorite customer and he also found this site doing research and he said (To Quote) "All NWA meteorites are found by terrorists - there are no legitimate finds". I realize that anybody can put up a website and spew out garbage (Look at all the anti sematic, pedophile and other sites out there) and the Pelisson website in my opinion falls into this catagory with the garbage. Anybody involved in meteorites is being damaged by new collectors reading this garbage and not knowing the difference. I dont have solutions because I cant force that website down but anything possible the meteorite community should do Few places in the world has benefited the poor locals more than NWA meteorites and new collectors should know that and not worry that they are supporting terrorists. Sincerely DEAN BESSEY )___ Dean: I've been doing some meteorite research in general, and one website I've come across in particular is disturbing to me and I wanted your thoughts about the imformation on it. Thanks. If my link does not work the website is as follows: www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/NWA.html Thanks. If you've shipped my purchase OK, if not yet, please wait until you have read this website and given me your thoughts. Thank you very much. (NAME WITHELD) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE JEWELRY FOR SALE
Here is something that you will probably all like: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale22.html Nice wire wrapped jewelry. Well made and great for gifts. I will be putting all of these on ebay at the indicated prices so I can offer a 20% discount to list members who are interested in buying one. Shipping $5 extra. All items are hand made and one of a kind Sincerely DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on Ebay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom Call !
For the record I enjoyed proud tom and wasnt offended and thought that it was great fun. However, I am with Anne on this one. For example you would never see a similar site spoofing the worlds top Chrysler dealers or restaurateurs (Or the main players in pretty much any other industry either). Proud Tom does reflect badly on the meteorite community and sort of makes many of the worlds top meteorite people look like a bunch of drunken freshman on frosh night that mysteriously gets the photographic record posted on facebook. Remember, this is not a few pictures and jokes being passed around a small bunch of friends in Tucson or Munich but open for anybody on the world wide web to see. Police have been trying to educate 15 year olds about posting revealing photos of themselves on networking websites reminding them that it could come back to haunt them in 10 years time (When presumably they have matured a bit and has employers and others looking for past evidence of their character) I think that it is very telling that the author has chosen to remain anonymous (Worried about lawsuits maybe) Why are you afraid to show yourself?. I am sure that some people (And their lawyers) would like to know who you are. Proud Tom had its moment but it is time that proud tom got buried and forgotten (Assuming that anything once posted online can ever be forgotten) My thoughts anyway. Sincerely DEAN --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Darren Garrison wrote: > From: Darren Garrison > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom Call ! > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 4:29 PM > On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:46:32 +0200, you wrote: > > >real.this is not humor, its only insult persons. > Here in > >Italy a " person " type proud tom it has not > had a long > >life, it would been taken a nice denounces for libel > > > > Matteo, "Proud Tom" is a little before my time, > so I have only the vaguest idea > of what this "humor" is-- but there have been > lots of cases in the US, too, of > people suing for libel over things posted on the internet. > Here in the US, > somebody can sue just about anyone for just about > anything-- they may not WIN > that law suit, but they can still file it, and cause the > person a heap of > emotional and finincial harm defending themselves. For > instance, if someone > concidered something said by "Proud Tom" about > them (I think I get the idea that > "Proud Tom" parodies list members) then that > person can sue Michael Blood in an > attempt to get the name of "Proud Tom." They > might not WIN that lawsuit and > make him be required to turn over the name, but he would > still have the hassle > and expense of hiring defense lawyers and showing up in > court. And if they DID > win the lawsuit and get "Proud Tom's" > identity and sue him, the courts might > decide that the parodies are protected speech and thus not > libel, or they might > find that it is harmful defamation. Either way, again, > "Proud Tom" would have > the expense and hassle of defending himself. > > See recent news related to the issue: > > http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&safe=off&num=100&q=defamation%20internet%20law&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn > > Oh, yeah, IANAL. > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom Call !
For the record I enjoyed proud tom and wasnt offended and thought that it was great fun. However, I am with Anne on this one. For example you would never see a similar site spoofing the worlds top Chrysler dealers or restaurateurs (Or the main players in pretty much any other industry either). Proud Tom does reflect badly on the meteorite community and sort of makes many of the worlds top meteorite people look like a bunch of drunken freshman on frosh night that mysteriously gets the photographic record posted on facebook. Remember, this is not a few pictures and jokes being passed around a small bunch of friends in Tucson or Munich but open for anybody on the world wide web to see. Police have been trying to educate 15 year olds about posting revealing photos of themselves on networking websites reminding them that it could come back to haunt them in 10 years time (When presumably they have matured a bit and has employers and others looking for past evidence of their character) I think that it is very telling that the author has chosen to remain anonymous (Worried about lawsuits maybe) Why are you afraid to show yourself?. I am sure that some people (And their lawyers) would like to know who you are. Proud Tom had its moment but it is time that proud tom got buried and forgotten (Assuming that anything once posted online can ever be forgotten) My thoughts anyway. Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA SALE
I havent been having many sales lately and my website has been looking a little bare recently but hopefully that will change over the next little while. See my new sale website here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale23.html I will be adding the link to my website tomorrow but a 20% discount for today on anything of interest. Shipping starts at $5 and runs around $16 a kilo. Sincerely DEAN BESSEY PS: While you are at it see my ebay auctions also where I have a couple hundred other meteorites listed and am into doing deals on anything that might be of interest. See my ebay user id AMUNRE http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale23.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cottingham - BAN BILL
I remember when I joined this list about 10 years ago that there was always a great meteorite discussion and many academics were willing to share insights. This discussion forum has gone downhill over the years as the result of a very small number (Less than a dozen) people who regularly made personal attacks for various reasons - often has part of a misguided sales strategy to sell meteorites. Over the past year almost everybody has quited down , realizing that they were harming themselves as much as their victim - or have simply left or been kicked of the list. Very few academics will associate themselves with the list and make postings anymore. Its mostly dealers and a die hard few nowadays who post. Very few people (Less than a dozen) care if somebody makes a couple extra sales postings a month. Most people have learned what a delete key is used for. Over the past six months this list basically has a single diehard crackpot that continues to dribble (Or flood) out this sort of bile that is responsible for people not taking part in discussions and responsible for the loss of "community spirit" that this list had when I joined 10 years ago. The list was better then and many members considered other members personal friends even if they never met. People dont leave this list because of a couple extra sales postings (Although they leave because of the bitching about it). Recently everybody has either been acting (At least semi) civilized (or left altogether). Today, A single crackpot is left that continues to spew the hate and bile for no reason other than that he gets off on it that the rest of us would prefer to not be exposed to as we discuss or sell meteorites. I recommend that Art Ban crackpot bill Sincerely DEAN --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: > From: bill kies > Subject: [meteorite-list] cottingham > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 3:45 PM > The met-list. A priceless tool or a tool with a price? > I'm sick of bitching about cottingham. Look at his ads > for this month. Why the hell should we care about his > profits or how he finances his next spam. He's insulted > us by claiming to be a charitable institution and he has > accelerated his nonsense ever since. 3 ads a day is sick. He > is a relentless parasite that is only concerned with profit. > _ > Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK
How about we make a new rule. "Only one bitching about it posting allowed per ad posting" Cheers DEAN --- On Thu, 4/30/09, bill kies wrote: > From: bill kies > Subject: [meteorite-list] ONE AD PER WEEK > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 5:32 PM > Fair play for all. > _ > Windows Live™ SkyDrive™: Get 25 GB of free online > storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] cottingham - BAN BILL - lift the AD limit
> An easy way to eliminate the issue is to lift the AD > limit... problem solved. > Just my opinion. > Greg C. > I am not going to try and set policy or personally declare myself sheriff but I will make an argument in support of this - realizing that a small number of people do abuse the postings. I know myself when I make sale postings its usually a bunch of sales clumped all together. When I left Canada for example for a couple weeks I was having sales almost every day. Then nobody herd from me for a year. When I get a new moroccan shipment or when I go to shows like Tucson or Munich I also post almost daily sales sometimes. Sometimes the sales are on behalf of my moroccan friends and sometimes my own stuff and if I could only post one ad while in munich, becides hurting my personal profits it prevents people who cant go to take part in the show and acquire new stuff on offer. Another example: Michael Blood has in february what is probably the worlds biggest meteorite even as far as collectors are concerned. You never hear from him for a year so would it be fair to prevent list members from learning about the most recent updates to the main event? Of course not. Several people who were the biggest abusers have pretty much abandoned the list and you never hear from their sales anymore - you can bet that the list in general is missing out on new stuff because of that. However, with you agree with me or not, wither bill is right or not, one thing is clear. Spewing attacks to 1000 people and pissing half of them off is not the way to react. Nobody wants to hear this crap. You get more anti list bitching than you do ads. The list could be renamed the anti ad bitching list. Here is a tip. If you are confident that you never want to buy something from somebody just use your email filters to block that persons emails. Problem solved. Sincerely DEAN PS: You would of course think that sales are something new and not the same stuff on offer again (And again, and again and again and.). __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD drama - an idea to solve it. - BAN BILL
bill kies says: "I have asked Art many times why he tolerates this stuff. It's been years now." OK, how high of an IQ is required to be able to figure out that Art really doesn't care? How many times do you need to be told to be able to figure it out? A little more repetitive training required maybe? And who gave you the authority to simply declare yourself sheriff and to go on constantly spamming a thousand people with vile and personal attacks because you have something up your butt and don't like the way that somebody is running their discussion list that has absolutely nothing to do with you? Its not your list. Here is the real idea to solve the problem. You don't like the way the list is policed - so unsubscribe yourself. Nobody is forcing you to endure this misery for "years now". You just don't get it do you. That personal attack on me had nothing to do with list policies or the discussion in question but everything to do about the real problem on this list. Nobody really cares wither I am doing well or on the way to the poorhouse or what the quality of what I am selling is. If they don't like my stuff they don't buy it. It was just a personal attack that you decided that you had to slip in for no sane reason other to spread more vile on the list. Its the attacks and bitching that is pissing people off. And today only you continue to expose the list to this senseless vile. Go away, the rest of us want to talk about, buy or sell meteorites. We are not interested in your senseless vile. Go create your own discussion group and then you can do whatever you want with it and you wont have to harass a discussion group owner and the people who are a member of his discussion list for "years now". Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: BIG NWA WEBSITE UPDATE
I have been busy adding new NWA meteorites to my website and significantly marking down (by 20% to 50%) meteorites that have been sitting there unsold for a while. Lots of NWA bargains. See my website here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com For direct links to the sale pages click here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale24.html http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale25.html http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale21.html http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale23.html In addition I have several hundred more meteorites listed on ebay including some Martians. See my ebay user id AMUNRE I want to sell off some of my ebay items and am into making deals so if you see something in my ebay auctions that interests you email me and maybe we can make a deal on it Thanks for viewing my sale. Sincerely DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on Ebay __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5546 and CV3's in general
I also have something similar and it is also very strongly magnetic. See here some photos: http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/1.jpg http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/2.jpg Look at how georgous it is from this photo: http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/3.jpg Here almost looks like a part where chondrules is missing http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/4.jpg http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/x/5.jpg The stone before I cut the end off was 894 Grams. Pretty nice whatever it is Cheers DEAN --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Phil Morgan wrote: > From: Phil Morgan > Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 5546 and CV3's in general > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 3:57 PM > Hello everyone, > I recently purchased a small endpiece of what I assumed was > probably a > pairing to NWA 5546. > > After cleaning it up a bit, I noticed an overall elongation > and > orientation of the chondrules. I was wondering if anyone > else would > agree from the picture at the link below. > http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c57/pkmorgan/share/cv3b.jpg > > I've always been fascinated by Leoville and while this may > not be as > extreme, I thought I'd go out on a limb and see if anyone > else saw it. > > For those of you who have some, does this look like NWA > 5546? Is > there any reason to believe this might not even be a CV3? > > Also, I tend to collect smaller pieces to match my budget > and was > surprised at how hard this pulled to a magnet. More like > an H > chondrite. How do the different carbonaceous classes > typically > respond to a magnet? In Ruben's recent CK recovery video > I recall > that those responsed fairly strongly as well. > > Thanks, > Phil > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sellers, would you like to keep more of your money?
I hadent seen that before. Yes, clicking personal on the send payment option does bring up more options that I hadnt realized was there. I pay paypal between $500 and $1000 a month so it could save me money. So who wants to buy something from my website and try it and see if it works? Maybe I could entice somebody with a 25% discount on anything on my website www.meteoriteshop.com to see if it actually works Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- On Sat, 6/27/09, Mark Grossman wrote: > From: Mark Grossman > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sellers, would you like to keep more of your > money? > To: "Greg Catterton" , > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 7:49 PM > Yes, but does the buyer get the > PayPal protection that is advertised on the listing if the > money is sent to an individual instead of to a seller as a > purchase? > > Mark Grossman > > - Original Message - From: "Greg Catterton" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 6:50 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Sellers, would you like to keep > more of your money? > > > > > > I have found a nice way to "beat the system" when it > comes to getting money with paypal. > > Instead of sending money with the purchase tab, use > the personal tab and you will not have to pay the paypal > fees when you recieve the money. > > This can add up to substantial savings over time. > > > > Dealers, all you need to do is ask the person buying > from you is for them to instead of clicking the purchase > tab, click the personal tab on the paypal send money page. > > You will pay NO FEES on the money you recieve! > > Again, this will add up to nice savings over time. > > > > Hope this will help some of you out there, in tough > times (and good ones) every little bit helps. > > > > Greg C. > > > > > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension
As if you didnt need another reason to try and diversify your business away from ebay here is what happened to me this morning. I am not making any part of this up or in any way dramatizing what happened. Neither Stephen King nor the guys on CSI could make this up. I wake up to numerous emails from ebay this morning from ebay cancelling my auctions and two emails saying that my account was suspended. Many auctions were canceled because they were "Significantly misrepresented". After 3 hours of chatting with people I finally get through to the "trust and safety" people after a recommendation from ebay australia. I was told that somebody (who??? - she had no way of knowing who) decided that my auctions were misrepresented. She couldent tell me what was misrepresented just that they look at the description, picture and content when deciding was what misrepresented but she had no way of knowing exactly what. So I try and reason with her. "If you cant tell me what it is about my auctions that was misrepresented how can I not repeat the problem in the future? Sit down before you read her response. She said that if ebay told everybody what they look for when they decide that auctions are misrepresented then people would do things to get around their security checks in future auctions so it would be a security violation to tell me what it was about my auctions that was being misrepresented and therfore canceled (And leading to my suspension.) She then said that my suspension was for 7 days so even if she did tell me it wouldent make any difference because you cant list on ebay for 7 days again anyway. Reasoning is getting harder. "OK, for my information. in seven days time when I get back on ebay again can you tell me what about my auctions was misrepresented so that I can fix them and not violate your policy in the future so I dont get kicked off again?". Sorry, telling you what the problem is would be a security violation and if people who what they looked for would do things to circumvent their rules in the future". This is going nowhere. I wish that I had a copy of that phone conversation. It would have looked good on youtube. In addition, the emails that ended the auctions said this: eBay has restricted your ability to list new items as a result of a policy violation. We'd be happy to lift this restriction once you've completed a brief tutorial about this policy. The next time you sign in to your eBay account, click on ?Sell? and ?Sell Your Item.? You?ll then be asked to take the tutorial. Once you've completed it, you can begin selling again immediately. __ Unfortunately, doing so is not possible so I cant even sign on. Even their emails dont make sense. So with a bit of luck, sometime in the next 7 days they will tell me what was wrong with my auctions so that I can fix it and not violate their policy - although maybe they will not because doing so might enable me to fix the problem out and circumvent their rules in the future. I plan to spend the next 7 days getting some shopping cart websites built and trying out other sites to sell stuff. Anybody got any ideas where else to list stuff? Anybody know somebody with ebay who will talk to me? Apparantly it was my pearl auctions that was somehow misrepresented but its not possible to find out why. It sgoing to be a pain relisting 1700 auctions. It probably wont get done - especially if I can figure out how to build a nice shopping cart website Cheers DEAN On a completely different note I need to come up with around $2000 in my paypal account in the next week so I am particularly into dealing from my website right now WWW.METEORITESHOP.COM so if you see anything let me know. Also, you people out there who owe me money, now is a good time to pay up. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension
Many thanks Carl for the poswerseller phone number. This has caused me $100 in phone bills today but at least the powerseller people reinstated my ebay account. The downside is that I now have no auctions at all listed and because ebay ended everything I have all the details lost so have to manually list everything again - 1700 auctions. Likely most wont get relisted as I plan to put more stuff on websites and diversify from ebay. I also found out why they suspended my account. Apparantly ebay has started a new rule where tahiti pearls are no longer permitted to be listed on ebay. So, rather than just end the pearl auctions (Or better yet - inform me of the new rule) they just said that I violated their rules to often (I assume more than 4 times since I had 300 tahiti pearl auctions so I violated their listing rules 300 times) and suspended my account. So anyway, thats why I was suspended and ebay has now kissed and made up so I can list everything except pearls again now. Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- On Thu, 7/9/09, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension > To: "dean bessey" , "meteoritelist" > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:13 PM > Dean, > Hello, I have heard of you many times and you have a great > reputation so obviously it is not about you. I think it is > likely issues with your links as well. I assume you are a > power seller. We power sellers can call and if you call back > you may get somebody smarter to speak with. The number that > I use is a toll free 866-519-3229. and I am always able to > get answers ( but may take more than one call) . It > also may be a pearl seller competitor messing with you. As > you know eBay these days is basically a glorified yard sale. > Most dealers make much more from their own web sites. Good > luck to you. Carl > -- > Carl or Debbie Esparza > IMCA 5829 > Meteoritemax > > > dean bessey > wrote: > > > > As if you didnt need another reason to try and > diversify your business away from ebay here is what happened > to me this morning. I am not making any part of this up or > in any way dramatizing what happened. Neither Stephen King > nor the guys on CSI could make this up. > > I wake up to numerous emails from ebay this morning > from ebay cancelling my auctions and two emails saying that > my account was suspended. > > Many auctions were canceled because they were > "Significantly misrepresented". After 3 hours of chatting > with people I finally get through to the "trust and safety" > people after a recommendation from ebay australia. > > I was told that somebody (who??? - she had no way of > knowing who) decided that my auctions were > misrepresented. She couldent tell me what was misrepresented > just that they look at the description, picture and content > when deciding was what misrepresented but she had no way of > knowing exactly what. > > So I try and reason with her. "If you cant tell me > what it is about my auctions that was misrepresented how can > I not repeat the problem in the future? > > Sit down before you read her response. > > She said that if ebay told everybody what they look > for when they decide that auctions are misrepresented then > people would do things to get around their security checks > in future auctions so it would be a security violation to > tell me what it was about my auctions that was being > misrepresented and therfore canceled (And leading to my > suspension.) She then said that my suspension was for 7 days > so even if she did tell me it wouldent make any difference > because you cant list on ebay for 7 days again anyway. > > Reasoning is getting harder. "OK, for my information. > in seven days time when I get back on ebay again can you > tell me what about my auctions was misrepresented so that I > can fix them and not violate your policy in the future so I > dont get kicked off again?". > > Sorry, telling you what the problem is would be a > security violation and if people who what they looked for > would do things to circumvent their rules in the future". > > This is going nowhere. I wish that I had a copy of > that phone conversation. It would have looked good on > youtube. > > In addition, the emails that ended the auctions said > this: > > > > eBay has restricted your ability to list new items as > a result of a policy violation. We'd be happy to lift this > restriction once you've completed a brief tutorial about > this policy. The next time you sign in to your eBay account, > click on ?Sell? and ?Sell Your Item.? You?ll th
Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension
No they say that since they were ended because of listing violations that the fees are forfeited --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Don Merchant wrote: > From: Don Merchant > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension > To: "dean bessey" , "meteoritelist" > , cdtuc...@cox.net > Cc: "Don Merchant" > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 9:48 PM > Hi Dean and sorry to see you go > through this sad case of communication malfunction and lack > of professional etiquette of EBay. Your right you > should of been contacted first or at the least as you said > to just them removing only the pearl auctions. Let me ask > you a questiondid you hold EBay to paying all your > listing fees or have them allow you to list for free now > that you have their explanation? > Thank you. > Sincerely > Don Merchant > IMCA # 0960 > - Original Message - From: "dean bessey" > To: "meteoritelist" ; > > Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension > > > > Many thanks Carl for the poswerseller phone number. This > has caused me $100 in phone bills today but at least the > powerseller people reinstated my ebay account. The downside > is that I now have no auctions at all listed and because > ebay ended everything I have all the details lost so have to > manually list everything again - 1700 auctions. > Likely most wont get relisted as I plan to put more stuff > on websites and diversify from ebay. > I also found out why they suspended my account. Apparantly > ebay has started a new rule where tahiti pearls are no > longer permitted to be listed on ebay. > So, rather than just end the pearl auctions (Or better yet > - inform me of the new rule) they just said that I violated > their rules to often (I assume more than 4 times since I had > 300 tahiti pearl auctions so I violated their listing rules > 300 times) and suspended my account. > So anyway, thats why I was suspended and ebay has now > kissed and made up so I can list everything except pearls > again now. > Cheers > DEAN > www.meteoriteshop.com > > > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, cdtuc...@cox.net > > wrote: > > > From: cdtuc...@cox.net > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension > > To: "dean bessey" , > "meteoritelist" > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 7:13 PM > > Dean, > > Hello, I have heard of you many times and you > have a great > > reputation so obviously it is not about you. I think > it is > > likely issues with your links as well. I assume you > are a > > power seller. We power sellers can call and if you > call back > > you may get somebody smarter to speak with. The number > that > > I use is a toll free 866-519-3229. and I am always > able to > > get answers ( but may take more than one call) . It > > also may be a pearl seller competitor messing with > you. As > > you know eBay these days is basically a glorified yard > sale. > > Most dealers make much more from their own web sites. > Good > > luck to you. Carl > > -- > > Carl or Debbie Esparza > > IMCA 5829 > > Meteoritemax > > > > > > dean bessey > > wrote: > > > > > > As if you didnt need another reason to try and > > diversify your business away from ebay here is what > happened > > to me this morning. I am not making any part of this > up or > > in any way dramatizing what happened. Neither Stephen > King > > nor the guys on CSI could make this up. > > > I wake up to numerous emails from ebay this > morning > > from ebay cancelling my auctions and two emails saying > that > > my account was suspended. > > > Many auctions were canceled because they were > > "Significantly misrepresented". After 3 hours of > chatting > > with people I finally get through to the "trust and > safety" > > people after a recommendation from ebay australia. > > > I was told that somebody (who??? - she had no way > of > > knowing who) decided that my auctions were > > misrepresented. She couldent tell me what was > misrepresented > > just that they look at the description, picture and > content > > when deciding was what misrepresented but she had no > way of > > knowing exactly what. > > > So I try and reason with her. "If you cant tell > me > > what it is about my auctions that was misrepresented > how can > > I not repeat the problem in the future? > > > Sit down before you read her response. > > > She said that if ebay told everybody
Re: [meteorite-list] My Ebay suspension
I have had 5 people email me privately with a message saying something to the effect of "Whats up with pearls - and could meteorites be next", so I will email the group rather than individually? Answer is be afraid - be very afriad. Apparantly the laws concerning the export and import of pearls are "complicated" so ebay has decided to no longer allow them (But there are still some listed on ebay and the "Trust and saftety" department told me it would be a security violation to give me this information - because people might use the info to circumvent those rules) so who the hell knows what ebay is up to. Even their own employees are kept in the dark (Presumably for security reasons) I was told that it is illegal to export pearls from French Polynesia directlty into the USA (Whats up, has obama got a new dislike for the french? - if I promise to never ever again use the term French Fry can I then list tahiti pearls again?) and that I should look into the laws regarding pearls in my own country before I sell anymore. So, I am told that conflicting and complicated laws are responsible for pearls getting prohibited from ebay. Hm. Complicacated and conflicting laws? That wouldent also apply to Meteorites, artifacts, coins, collectibles - not to mention leather pants (Countries where cows are sacred) or a free press in general in some countries would it. Ebay was started to sell laser pointers if I remember correctly. Maybe eventually thats all that will be allowed again. Me thinks that people should start diversifying from ebay as quickly and as much as possible. Paypal to (Nobody has ever had problems with paypal of course). I now have 1700 auctions that disapeared and ebay tells me sorry, shit happens, now just be a good little boy and relist them all again so we can collect more ebay fees - and if we decide to end them all without telling you why and keeping all those fees again, well, shit happens. Spending a lot of time looking for non ebay ways to sell right now Cheers DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Laws/Ebay
I am reposting this a second time with a new subject line because I am sure that some people are interested but never read the last posting due to not being interested in my personal ebay problems enough to bother opening the dozen't email on the topic --- I have had 5 people email me privately with a message saying something to the effect of "Whats up with pearls - and could meteorites be next", so I will email the group rather than individually? Answer is be afraid - be very afriad. Apparantly the laws concerning the export and import of pearls are "complicated" so ebay has decided to no longer allow them (But there are still some listed on ebay and the "Trust and saftety" department told me it would be a security violation to give me this information - because people might use the info to circumvent those rules) so who the hell knows what ebay is up to. Even their own employees are kept in the dark (Presumably for security reasons) I was told that it is illegal to export pearls from French Polynesia directlty into the USA (Whats up, has obama got a new dislike for the french? - if I promise to never ever again use the term French Fry can I then list tahiti pearls again?) and that I should look into the laws regarding pearls in my own country before I sell anymore. So, I am told that conflicting and complicated laws are responsible for pearls getting prohibited from ebay. Hm. Complicacated and conflicting laws? That wouldent also apply to Meteorites, artifacts, coins, collectibles - not to mention leather pants (Countries where cows are sacred) or a free press in general in some countries would it. Ebay was started to sell laser pointers if I remember correctly. Maybe eventually thats all that will be allowed again. Me thinks that people should start diversifying from ebay as quickly and as much as possible. Paypal to (Nobody has ever had problems with paypal of course). I now have 1700 auctions that disapeared and ebay tells me sorry, shit happens, now just be a good little boy and relist them all again so we can collect more ebay fees - and if we decide to end them all without telling you why and keeping all those fees again, well, shit happens. Spending a lot of time looking for non ebay ways to sell right now Cheers DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Astro Mikes meteor streak Photo
I hate to be a party pooper when everybody is all excited about having a photo of a meteor fall but astro mikes photo shown on his webpage here: http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/ Is not exactly all that it is cracked up to be. Reporters are renouned for not properly checking their info in an effort to get a scoupe but somebody deserves a raspberry over this one and at least somebody should have seen this photo for what it is before newspapers started printing it. The greenish streak is a starboard (right) wingtip nav light, the centre red is the rotating anti-collision beacon, and the red streak is the port (left) wingtip nav light. The two brighter white centre lights are the landing lights or maybe white tracking lights depending on what type of aircraft it is. It would have been flying up the photo to the left of the observer. There was a slight wind making the pilot crab into the wind which explains the non perfect parellel lines. The photo has quite a bit of dust and mike needs his CCD chip cleaned. Basically, While he was inside waiting the the long exposure photo to finish an aircraft flew through his image. Cheers DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astro Mikes meteor streak Photo
--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Mike Bandli wrote: I have captured numerous aircraft on long exposure and they all have strobes and appear as segmented lines. This one certainly does not, though it may be so close that it is not showing the break in strobes > I think the explanation for that is probably that usually you photograph small slow moving aircraft like a cessna while this is a much larger aircraft (Due to all of the light streaks - a small cessna wouldent have as many lights) and was probably moving faster and further away (Although not 30,000 feet as there were landing lights on). Anybody also notice that in the photo the "Meteor" is going up toward space rather than falling like you would expect a meteor to do? Cheers DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: DEANS NWA SALE TO END ALL SALES
My website will be taken down soon and replaced with an ecommerce website. Rather than move the stones over to my new planned site I would prefer to sell them all (And I need to raise money anyway)so half price sale this weekend. SO ALL METEORITES ON MY WEBSITE IS HALF PRICE Plus Shipping ($20 for first kilo and $15 per kilo therafter) YES YOU READ CORRECTLY 50% OFF ALL METEORITES Sale does not apply to classification services. See my website here: WWW.METEORITESHOP. COM Sincerely DEAN WWW.METEORITESHOP. COM __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible New "BL" Meteorite - Plus some other cute photos
Yesterday I sat down and did some cutting. I have a 3 kilo meteorite that looks somewhat like what I was selling as the affectionately nicknamed "BL" meteorite a couple years ago. I dont have any left to compare but if anybody has some take a look at this: http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/ebay-photos/nwa4649.html This looks like it might be a more weathered "BL". The little grey spot in the upper left of the first photo is something that I have only ever seen on the "BL" meteorite. For a couple years there I just gave up on getting classifications done (I am still waiting on some that I submitted since 2001 so I just stopped bothering with classifications) but now that I have my own classification service and can get classifications done in around six months this one has been classified. On this webpage I also included a few other cute photos that I found while cutting yesterday that I thought somebody might like. Cheers DEAN Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible New "BL" Meteorite - Plus some other cutephotos
--- PolandMET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dean > You have the same as my NWA 2826 LL5 (aka NWA 2053 > and many others) > This is very good material, fresh, with many > interesting inclusions, visible > chondrules (thats why it should be LL5 not LL6) and > very very large > troilites (well visible on photos at rusty spots) > I think that you have just pointed out a problem in general with classifying meteorites. The piece that I sent in for classification wasnt nearly as nice as the larger cut in my photo. I didnt realize that it was so nice until yesterday when I started cutting it up. If I had used a different sample I would probably have gotten the different classification. Sincerely DEAN Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible New "BL" Meteorite - Plus some other cutephotos
--- Kashuba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dean, > It's too bad that we missed another chance to find > out about those > fine-grained inclusions that are so prominent in the > original "BL", NWA > 1658. I see they aren't mentioned in the > classifications of NWA 2826 or > 2053 either. > Yeah, those things are odd. I almost feel like just getting a thin section of just one of those inclusions made and seeing what just that part would classify has. You always wish parts would be eucritic. My new big piece dont have much of them unfortunately though. Still a particularly interesting LL meteorite Cheers DEAN Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The EL3/Aubrite/whatever - Why FOSSIL?
I dont want to get involved in the thread about what the classification is (I will be pretty happy no matter what the proposed options are) but can somebody explain to me why its called a "Fossil" meteorite? I realize that the term "fossil" can be loosely used to describe pretty much any old stuff (You could even call a living person a "fossil" meaning a person with old fashioned stubborn views) but given that this is a scientific classification I would expect more rigid use of the term in a scientific standpoint. To become fossilized means that over a long peroid of time (Usually millions of years) actual organic material gets replaced by stone so that when you have a fossil such as a dinosaur tooth, fossil shark tooth or ammonite you actually have a rock and not a real creature. No DNA can be extracted since its only a rock. Thats why we dont even know if dinosaurs were warm or cold blooded. We are only studying a rock when we study dinosaur fossils - not a real original artifact. So called mammoth tusk fossil or 10,000 year old fossil buffalo bones are not really a fossil since you get the original item - not a fossilized version. Fossil insects and bacteria in amber is often not fossilized even if millions of years old. But the meteorite in question has not been fossilized. The chrondrules are real chrondrules and not a replaced with stone chrondrule. You are not getting a calcified stone when you buy this "fossil" meteorite. You are getting a real original meteorite (Even if highly weathered and oxidized). I realize that dealers (Including myself) call it a fossil or paleo meteorite but can somebody explain to me why it should be called a fossil (Or Paleo) meteorite? Thanks DEAN PS: If somebody wants 200 or 300 kilos of this email me for details Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA4649 - LL6 for sale
I had several dozen requests for the meteorite from my posting yesterday so that motivated me to build a sale page. Probably not enough to go around so order quickly if you want any. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale9.html 20% discount to list members for orders today. Postage extra and paypal great for payment. Sincerely DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: SHERGOTITE AND BASSIKOUNOU
I just got 45 more grams of the shergotite that is currently floating around Morocco. I dont think there is much left. See here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale10.html I have the bigger pieces priced at $350 a gram and the smaller or better crusted pieces more. Excellent deal on Martians. In a repeat of a previous sale I am trying to unload the rest of my uncut Bassikounou specimens. They are shown here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/Bassikounou.html The nicest ones have sold but the rest are nice to. $2 a gram. Some of the Bassikounou might have been sold on ebay so I will have to double check if you see any that you want. Shipping is extra Sincerely DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Has Mali Been Classified?
I may have missed it in all of the postings but is there a classification? I just got 9 kilos of the stuff (So will have a sale posting later today or tomorrow) and this stuff is georgous. Just look at this 1785 gram Mali: http://www.ilovenewfoundland.com/meteoriteshop/1785mali.jpg If anybody has classification details please let me know Cheers DEAN Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: MALI/BIG CHRISTMAS SALE/47 KILOS
I have just built a Mali Sale webpage here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/mali.html These are some of the nicest, freshest crusted meteorites that you have ever seen. Every collection needs a Mali. I also just built a new NWA sale page here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale11.html This page starts with a massive 47 kilo meteorite and lots of bigger ones over a kilo. These are all new meteorites that I got last week. And in the spirit of the season a Christmas Sale. _ EVERYTHING EXCEPT MARS METEORITES AND CLASSIFICATION SERVICES IS 25% OFF. This includes the new never before seen sales pages noted above so check out my website. WWW.METEORITESHOP.COM This 25% off sale also includes all of my ebay fixed price items. If you see anything in my ebay store email me the item numbers and I will end the listings for you and give you 25% off my listed price. (Dont do a buy it yourself as then there wont be a discount). Grab your christmas bargains now. And keep watching my ebay listings and website for more new meteoritic deals all the time Sincerely DEAN BESSEY www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on Ebay Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Merry Xmas & Need a Diamond Blade Rec.
Merry christmas to everybody also. My opinion is pro slicer is the best. And after buying many tons of NWAs I have gone through lots of saw blades and pretty much tried them all. The worst I ever tried was "ADVANTAGE" which sort of falls apart as you watch it sitting on a shelf like a Nantan. There is a model of MK that is about 50% better than pro slicer but double the cost - making pro slicer your best buy dollar for dollar. My opinion anyway Cheers DEAN --- Bob Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Merry Christmas All !!! > > Can someone recommend a good Diamond Blade? I need a > 10" with 5/8" Arbor. > > Thanks, > Bob > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA'S ONLY $25 A KILO
$25 is actually below my cost but I have been accumulating quite a bit of low grade weathered meteorites over the past year and have been picking out nicer looking ones so its OK for me to sell them below my cost. They havent really been checked over much and I havent gone over them with a magnet (Although if you want I will go over them with a magnet to ensure a minimun level of magnetism). These are a variety of falls and often I cut them finding really nice cut surfaces (And sometimes they are weathered to the core - its sort of hit or miss). So they are not pretty but certainly cheap enough. Maybe you can take this opportunity to buy your very own saw as you would have lots of fun cutting these (I certainly do - but one can only cut so much). NOTE: METEORITES ARE SMALL AND MANY UNDER 10 GRAMS AND ALMOST ALL UNDER 50 GRAMS. NO BIG ONES. The only downside is that postage is very expensive here in new zealand and costs me about $20 a kilo to ship. But if you want quantity I can send 9 kilos fed ex for $150 and $15 a kilo above that. I have ample supply so if anybody is interested just paypal me the $25 plus $20 a kilo postage (Or if you want lots the fed ex shipping rate) to this email address. If somebody has a courier account and can get shipping cheaper feel free to arrange your own shipping. I am not making any money off the shipping (Or - for that matter, of the meteorites either) so it doesnt matter to me how they are shipped. To australia shipping probably marginally lower. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on Ebay . Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: EBAY AUCTIONS: SHERGOTITE, MALI, BASSIKOUNOU, HUGEMONGOUS NWA'S
I took extreme advantage of ebays 10 cent listing day last week and listed 250 auctions - including over 100 NWA'S so I have lots to keep meteorite people happy today on ebay. Lots of Mali and BASSIKOUNOU and shergotite is still bid at around $25 a gram. There are a couple dozen or so very large ones over a kilo including this 47 Kilo monster: http://cgi.ebay.com/DEANS-MASSIVE-47-1-KILO-NWA-METEORITE_W0QQitemZ190186221141QQihZ009QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem And lots more over 5 kilos. You want display pieces cheap? See my auctions today. It dont end today but I would like to refer you to this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=190187286330 See my ebay user id AMUNRE or click here: http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm Cheers DEAN BESSEY http://www.meteoriteshop.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: PRETTY NWA SALE
Some nicer material in this sale and priced cheaper on a quality per quality basis than you usually see. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale12.html 20% discount on anything today before I add the sale to my main webpage Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale12.html Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Anybody recogonize this??????
I got a little excited about this a short while ago (until I cut it). Only weights 30 grams. Hard to believe that is not crust. http://www.cebuprincess.com/meteoriteshop/oddrock.html Anybody recogonize this as a unusual meteorite? It is absolutely non magnetic Cheers DEAN Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NEW UNCLASSIFIED NWA SALE
After the stunning success of yesterdays NWA sale where I sold every single stone (Mostly twice and some got replaced 3 times and sold again) I just had to get a new sale going today. See here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale13.html 20% discount today before I link this to my main website Sincerely DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chat
I havent been able to find Mark's chat site lately. In fact I think his whole site is offline and he seems to be missing and I havent been able to contact him in several months. Hopfully he is OK. Sincerely DEAN --- Christian Anger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > anybody in Marc's chatroom ? > > Please let me know how to get in, I lost the > adrress, > > Christian > > I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc > website: www.austromet.com > > Ing. Christian Anger > Korngasse 6 > 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg > AUSTRIA > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I think the word "lately" dont belong in farmers email. I always have problems with Italian postal service. Interestingly I have a problem one this morning that is supposedly lost that I mailed 6 weeks ago and have had 3 customers inniating paypal chargebacks from Italy (100% of my total) in the past 3 or 4 months - mostly for stamps. Quite a few people will not ship to Italy. Maybe you could say "Fed Ex only". I have been toying with the idea of refusing to send shipments to Italy but I have the occasional customer in Italy and two very good ones who will pay for fed ex shipping. Is there any way on ebay to block bidders from italy but then allow individual bidders on a case by case basis? Maybe I shoudl ask the ebay powerseller people that question. Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- michael cottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service > has caused much mayhem > and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same > buyers making the same > claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely > corrupt postal service in > Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal > Service into a toilet > category, but NO other postal service has even come > close to being so > corrupt. > The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN > CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on > to packages for months! They don't seem to be > corrupt, just after every > penny they can get for customs duty. They are very > slow sometimes. > > I too have thought about not sending to Italy > anymore. > > Best Wishes > > Michael Cottingham > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Michael > Farmer > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to > Italy using paypal > > List members, I don't know about others, but myself > and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by > paypal/Italian buyers lately. > > In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost > on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal > took my money automatically. > I will no longer ship anything to Italy using > paypal, > any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or > international postal money order. Then I will ship, > so > that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian > postal > workers, that is not my problem. > > This has become so common, that either all packages > to > Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to > the > paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. > Anyone else having this problem lately? > Michael Farmer > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
I think the word "lately" dont belong in farmers email. I always have problems with Italian postal service. Interestingly I have a problem one this morning that is supposedly lost that I mailed 6 weeks ago and have had 3 customers inniating paypal chargebacks from Italy (100% of my total) in the past 3 or 4 months - mostly for stamps. Quite a few people will not ship to Italy. Maybe you could say "Fed Ex only". I have been toying with the idea of refusing to send shipments to Italy but I have the occasional customer in Italy and two very good ones who will pay for fed ex shipping. Is there any way on ebay to block bidders from italy but then allow individual bidders on a case by case basis? Maybe I shoudl ask the ebay powerseller people that question. Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- michael cottingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > YES. Over the last year the Italian postal service > has caused much mayhem > and madness for me. I wonder if we have the same > buyers making the same > claims? Same scams going down or just an extremely > corrupt postal service in > Italy? I hate to lump the whole Italian Postal > Service into a toilet > category, but NO other postal service has even come > close to being so > corrupt. > The next worse in my experience is the GERMAN > CUSTOMS, who sometimes hold on > to packages for months! They don't seem to be > corrupt, just after every > penny they can get for customs duty. They are very > slow sometimes. > > I too have thought about not sending to Italy > anymore. > > Best Wishes > > Michael Cottingham > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Michael > Farmer > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:09 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to > Italy using paypal > > List members, I don't know about others, but myself > and Robert Ward have both been ripped off by > paypal/Italian buyers lately. > > In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay items lost > on the way to Italy and claims filed, where paypal > took my money automatically. > I will no longer ship anything to Italy using > paypal, > any orders from Italy must be paid for with cash or > international postal money order. Then I will ship, > so > that if the items are stolen by corrupt Italian > postal > workers, that is not my problem. > > This has become so common, that either all packages > to > Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers are on to > the > paypal scam and get the items, then claim refunds. > Anyone else having this problem lately? > Michael Farmer > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem??
In 2000 (Might be 1999 or 2001, I cant remember exactly) this was in BNWA (Before NWA) ex meteorite dealer Michael Casper bought 300 kilos of meteorites (300 kilos was a massive amount of meteorites at a time when even weathered unclassified meteorites were getting $3 a gram on ebay) that he was told was found in the Kem Kem plain near the algerian border. I bought some from this 300 kilo bunch (As did a lot of other dealers and meteorites named "Kem Kem" was showing up on ebay). After seeing it in person I realized that this was a very large number of strewnfields all mixed together that Casper was selling. At around the same time the meteoritical society was trying to decide how to retain as much information as possible on all the meteorites that were just being sold with no particular pattern in morocco. Jeff Grossman in particular went on a "fact finding" mission asking dealers selling NWAs (They werent called NWAs back then) what was happening and the best way to accumulate as much info as possible on all of these mixed meteorites (I remember him asking me if the moroccans were cutting them up before selling them). It soon became obvious that TKW and GPS coordinates would not be known and it was decided by the met society that the best way to deal with the less than ideal (but nevertheless present) situation was to create the NWA system that we all now all know and love. I dont know of anything other than this 300 kilos was ever sold as Kem Kem. However, there are a lot of NWA's that originally were a part of Caspers 300 kilos of "Kem Kem". Bernd mentions a 14 gram eucrite and my very own historical meteorite NWA001 originally came from this 300 kilos of "Kem Kem". There are lots more for sure as this "Kem Kem" was a very mixed group of meteorites and at that time we all were under the misguided notion that all meteorites from NWA would eventually be classified (Wither they actually all came from the Kem Kem plain or not is another matter and will probably never be known). Thats my Kem Kem memories anyway Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com AMUNRE on ebay --- tracy latimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was given to understand that Kem Kem was one of > those "placeholder" provisional names given to a > meteorite that had not been classified. Since there > were a number of gray areas regarding TKW, find > location, and if all the pieces submitted as "Kem > Kem" actually were from the same strewnfield, it had > never received an official number or classification. > I bought a partslice when it was new, unclassified, > and all over the market, and would be tickled pink > but surprised if it were a eucrite (mine looks like > a generic L6). > > Tracy Latimer > > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 + > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help > > > > Hi David and List, > > > > "Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem > Kem and > > Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info > anywhere." > > > > If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14 > gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 > > If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113 > kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87 > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Bernd > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > _ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word > scramble challenge with star power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not an Aubrite
What about the australian export permit required if it was really what he said (You would think that a "Space Research Corporation" would know the law) Second photo shows that this is obviously a NWA CV3 which makes his 6 gram rock worth about $30. I find it strange that somebody would try to perpetrate a fraud using a real (And somewhat scarce and highly undervalued) meteorite. Cheers DEAN --- Mike Bandli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is ridiculous: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ160205758255 > > Obviously not an Aubrite as advertised. Not even > Murchison (looks like CV3). And what is 'Space > Research Corporation?' The only info I can find is > of a notorious arms smuggling company. I emailed the > seller and told him that it is not an aubrite and > that he would be ripping off some poor new meteorite > collector if it sells. The seller doesn't believe me > because he has a 'COA' and claims that he has > received dozens of offers to end his auction early > for $400. Come on! Scam... By the way... COA is > usually an acronym for: FAKE. > > Bored and waiting for my plane, > > Mike > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 140 EBAY NWA's STARTED AT 99 CENTS
Starting in about an hours time I have 140 meteorites ending on ebay that I started last week at only 99 cents. With so many some will probably go for that. Get your NWA bargains now. Dont forget to check out my hundreds of buy it now store items also. Cheers DEAN AMUNRE on ebay http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Message From Mark Bostick
I just spoke to Mark Bostick for the first time in three months or so. He hasnt been listing much ebay auctions but has had his brother taking care of a couple thousand ebay store items while he was away but it seems to have been a challenge for his brother to keep up and take care of his kids and work at the same time to so email responces have been slow. Mark has been taking care of his terminallylly ill father for the past few months and has not had any internet access. He is now in the process of taking ebay back over from his brother and is now sorting through more than 10,000 emails from his time away. He hopes to get back to everybody soon but if you need to contact him wait a few days as he widdles down his emails and then email him again. He apologizes if anybody is missing items and will take care of things shortly Cheers DEAN Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Can you Cut Libyan Glass?
LDG is soft and easy to cut. You shouldent have any trouble with a rock saw. I havent had any in a couple years but I did well selling cut pieces on ebay several years ago and suspect you would find success selling your cutoffs on ebay Hope this helps Cheers DEAN --- David & Kitt Deyarmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a large 930 gram two tone piece I want to > turn into a 50mm sphere but > it would be best if I could cut it into a rough > before I started the > sphere-ing process. > > So I wanted to know if it's even possible to cut > Libyan Glass? > > If so, what do people cut it with? > > > Once I have it cut I will have end cuts left over so > I also wanted to know > if there is any market for these pieces? > > Is anyone on this list is interested in an end cut? > > If so contact me off list at bobadebt at ec.rr.com > and I will let you know > when and if I have anything available. > > Thanks > > > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: MORE THAN A HUNDRED 99 CENT EBAY AUCTIONS PLUS MALI
I have more than 100 NWAs ending on ebay now all at 99 cents. Plus hundreds of buy it now store items just waiting for you See me ebay user id AMUNRE or click here: http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm I also have some more Mali http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/mali1.jpg http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/mali2.jpg Weights are noted in red and are $2 a gram plus shipping. Sincerely DEAN BESSEY Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Last Call for Alcohol
Since I moved to New Zealand getting alcohol has been a pain but when I lived in canada I could go to any drug store and get it. They had 70% stuff on the shelf and you had to get a licenced pharmacist to approve you buying the 99% stuff which was kept behind the counter. You got questioned about why you wanted it before you could buy it - which resulted in strange looks as a pharmasict who knew nothing about rocks tried to understand why I wanted it. Cutting with alcohol is excellent. You dont weather the meteorite, make a clean quick cut, dont make a mess and your blades last a long time. Very little clean up afterwards (when compared to cutting with water or oil). The only downside I found is that you get a very strong poisenous odor. I stopped using it because of this but if you had a good mask and cut outside (Preferably with a bit of wind to quickly drive the fumes away from you) it would probably work well. Probably wouldent be a good idea to cut indoors using alcohol. Thats my thoughts on cutting with alcohol anyway. I loved using it except for the fumes. I never experienced the spark/fire problem that adam mentioned but that sounds like something to consider and might be another reason to only cut outside. Cheers DEAN --- McCartney Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow, I got a wonderful deluge of helpful info. > Thanks to everyone, I > won't be able to respond to all emails. I will > definitely use alcohol. > Fear not I'll be safe. > > Now then, I got off the plane this morning, and now > I'm going to go > crawl into bed from my > French/Spanish/Chilean/Zimbabwean/Mexican/South > African/Burma trip. > > Tomorrow, perhaps the guesses will be better. > Everyone seems to think > the all the wine in the world comes from 2 > countries... > > -mt > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: More than 100 99 cent NWA's ending on ebay
See my user id AMUNRE http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm More than 100 NWAs started at only 99 cents and 491 listed in total - mostly inventory NWAs that can be bought immeadiately using buy it now. Look for bargains in the 99 cent items or bargains in my store. Ending throughout today (Sunday). Cheers DEAN (AMUNRE) http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEW ZEALAND ROCK SHOW THIS WEEKEND
I am not sure if there are any New Zealand list members becides me and Joel but if there is anybody in Auckland this weekend there will be a rock and mineral show in Auckland's North Shore (Senior citizens center in Milford - across the parking lot facing the main entrance to Milford Mall). Email me if you need more details. I will be having some meteorites for sale including the ones in these two ebay auctions 180219010423 and 180219010434 (Email me also if you want a deal on these two). Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] DEAN HITS 10, 000 EBAY FEEDBACKS - NOW WITH A SHOOTING STAR
Well, not directly meteorite related I guess but a lot of those feedbacks are for meteorite sales. And anyway, I just wanted to brag. Took me 9 years to acompolish this. And I pulled off the stunt before ebay starts adding one feedback per week per other user so would have been done the wimpy way had it taken me another couple of months. Mark Bostick beat me to it but its still pretty impressive (In my own mind anyway). See My new shooting star in my ebay user id AMUNRE. While you are drooling over my new shooting star take an opportunity to look over my ebay store for hundreds of meteorites also. Buying meteorites is a great way to celebrate my new feedback shooting star. http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm Cheers DEAN (AMUNRE on ebay) Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Major eBay Changes to Feedback
The reason your feedback score went up so much is because other users can leave you one feedback a week and it will count in your score. Right now somebody can leave you 1 feedback a week over a year and it only counts once. After the changes this would increase your score by 52 after a year. Instead of a maximun of one feedback per user per lifetime it changes to one feedback per user per week. Negative scores might immeadiately reduce also as if somebody is kicked off ebay their feedbacks will no longer count. Cheers DEAN --- On Wed, 5/14/08, Jeff Kuyken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Jeff Kuyken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Major eBay Changes to Feedback > To: "Meteorite List" > Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 8:30 PM > G'day all, > > It seems eBay Australia has been the test dummy for > eBay's new feedback > changes. From what I can tell, most eBay sites around the > world will follow > suit in the next week or so. I can't work out exactly > how it works but my > eBay feedback went from 125 to 339 overnight. > > http://feedback.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=meteoritesaustralia > > It seems that neutral comments will now count as a negative > BUT I believe > only the last 12months are counted in the feedback %. But > the most major > change is that sellers will now be unable to leave negative > comments for > buyers. > > Does anyone know more about how the new system is going to > work? > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] DEAN'S NEW METEORITE AND ROCK SHOP IN AUCKLAND
This has been keeping me very busy the last couple months but we are now open. A real live brick and concrete meteorite (And other stuff) shop. A place where you can walk in anytime and buy meteorites on display. A new must see for visiters to New Zealand. See here: http://www.earthlytreasures.co.nz/ Cheers DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: MALI, 15% off Ebay, some Achondrites
I have been busy with my new shop lately and havent been very active but should get semi back to normal soon. Firstly, I plan to redo all my ebay auctions and in an effort to sell off ones that have been listed for a while I have made a 15% discount on everything. http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm I have some MALI at $2 a gram. These will go to ensisheim and St Marie where they will be offered at 2 Euros if they dont sell. All have over half crust and are nice. Email me for photos if interested (Price not negotiable on these). Sizes are: 1077 Grams 329 498 708 254 338 These have been drying up so I doubt many more will turn up. I also have achondrites in these two ebay auctions #180219010434 and #180219010423. 20% off the indicated prices on these two if interested. Cheers DEAN (AMUNRE on ebay) http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 187 Gram NWA For Sale for $1000
See here: Price is $1000 plus $80 fedex shipping http://www.treasureshaven.com/treasureshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=11 Cheers DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Scoop on "Kem Kem"
I just got back from australia and am sorting through thousands and thousands of emails so my apologies if this has already been answered. There is no recogonized meteorite term as "Kem Kem". The term "Kem Kem" dates from the days just before the official creation of the term "NWA" roughly 9 or 10 years ago. Hundreds of kilos of meteorites were being sold at random in Morocco and everybody (Including the met society) was trying to best figure out how to catalog and deal with the situation of mixed meteorites from many different falls thrown in together and sold in bulk (Not that big a deal nowadays but A novel new thing 10 years ago). Meteorite dealer Michael casper - now I believe (at least semi) retired, got his hands on a large quantity (If I remember correctly 300 kilos but my memory might be a little off after 10 years) and he sold them in bulk using the name "KEM KEM" and saying that they were found in the Kem Kem desert. They were very cheap for meteorites - I believe 30 or 40 cents a gram which was I think the first time that any meteorite was ever publicly advertised under $1 a gram. At the time everybody probably believed the Moroccans story that they were found in the Kem Kem desert but of course nowadays we all take location data with a grain of salt at best. I was among Caspers buyers and on seeing them it was obvious that it was a very mixed group of meteorites and from a very wide variety of falls. Soon afterwards the name "NWA" was officially put in place and anything classified from Caspers "Kem Kem" hoard (Including NWA001) was given a NWA name. If you see anything labelled Kem Kem it will almost surely be from caspers one time 300 Kilo hoard that just pre dated NWA. Nobody else has ever used that name as the introduction of NWA shortly afterwards cancelled peoples need to try and make up names to describe their meteorites. Almost certainly the location data of caspers 300 kilo hoard is just as iffy as location data that you get nowadays so wither they were actually found in Kem kem or not is really a moot point as nobody really cares about such details nowadays. But your Kem Kem stones can be traced to a particular buy from the early days and has that little extra bit of history to them. They were a particularly nice group of meteorites also and better than any 300 kilo mixed hoard that you are likely to find offered in morocco nowadays. Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] STOMACH AS MUCH AS YOU CAN!!!
Yeah, this list has been pretty much cleaned up and for the last year and a half a single black blotch has been keeping this list from becoming a respectible list again like it was 10 years ago when many scientists were happy to post and be a part of the list and not worry about being associated with scumbags. All culprets in the mud slinging except one has started creating a new community spirit again on this list. I think I speak for almost everybody when I say that we wish Bill would go away and let us have our meteorite list back and not continue with the mud slinging list. If there is one person that should be banned it is Bill. Go away, you are not wanted here Sincerely DEAN --- On Tue, 8/18/09, John Gwilliam wrote: > From: John Gwilliam > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STOMACH AS MUCH AS YOU CAN!!! > To: "Greg Stanley" , parkforest...@hotmail.com, > gee...@msn.com > Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:37 PM > I'm in total agreement. How long with > this List tolerate Bill Kies garbage? > > John Gwilliam > > At 04:47 PM 8/18/2009, Greg Stanley wrote: > > > > > > > > This email was totally uncalled for, and I found it > very > > offensive and in poor taste. > > > > > > > > Greg S. > > > > > > > > > > > From: parkforest...@hotmail.com > > > To: gee...@msn.com > > > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:09:49 -0500 > > > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STOMACH AS MUCH AS > YOU CAN!!! > > > > > > > > > I've never purchased from mc. I've heard many > list members compliment his prices. It's good that you can > haggle with him if this is so. Point is that he casts the > bait pretty high fishing for suckers. If you're an informed > buyer and you can deal it's great, but if you're new you can > get ripped... > > > > > > Yes, it's acceptable to do business that way. > Buyer beware and all that. No, it doesn't help anyone in the > longrun but mc. > > > I like the idea about adday although I fear it > would be abused. > > > > > > I'm sure that mc is a complicated man and does > understand. > > > > > > "Who's the black private dick > > > That's a sex machine to all the chicks? > > > SHAFT! > > > Ya damn right! > > > > > > Who is the man that would risk his neck > > > For his brother man? > > > SHAFT! > > > Can you dig it? > > > > > > Who's the cat that won't cop out > > > When there's danger all about? > > > SHAFT! > > > Right On! > > > > > > They say this cat Shaft is a bad mother > > > SHUT YOUR MOUTH! > > > I'm talkin' 'bout Shaft. > > > THEN WE CAN DIG IT! > > > > > > He's a complicated man > > > But no one understands him but his woman > > > JOHN SHAFT!" > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: gee...@msn.com > > >> To: parkforest...@hotmail.com > > >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > >> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] STOMACH AS MUCH > AS YOU CAN!!! > > >> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:21:33 -0700 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Honestly, what is the problem? I'll tell you > whatI wish eveyone dealer gave deals as good as Michael > Cottingham's. All of the stuff I've bought off of him has > been quality merchandise that other dealers would have > charged me 2 to 3 times as much for. > > >> Speaking for myself (and most likely all the > other small collectors) may this List be blessed by many > more Cottingham Auctions. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Greg Lindh > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> From: parkforest...@hotmail.com > > >>> To: mikew...@gilanet.com > > >>> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:35:38 -0500 > > >>> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STOMACH AS > MUCH AS YOU CAN!!! > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> HELLO, HELLO > > >>> > > >>> I am NOT a jerk or an ad spammer. > > >>> > > >>> > > From: mikew...@gilanet.com > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:50:07 > -0700 > > Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: New > Game For List Members Only! WIN AS MANY AUCTIONS AS YOU CAN > and You Will Win... > > > > Hello, > > > > On Thursday August 20th (This Week) I > have 49 Auctions ending. These > > were all started out at 0.99 cents. I > am offering a $300.00 shopping > > spree in my ebay store to which ever > list member wins the most > > auctions. A pretty simple game with > big rewards. Just bid and win as > > many of those 49 auctions and be the > winner of the most auctions and > > you then can go shopping in my ebay > store and use the $300.00 on > > whatever you like. > > > > SEE ALL AUCTIONS HERE: > > > > http://shop.ebay.com:80/merchant/meteorite-collector_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ > > > > > > The last game was a big, big success > and I gave out 2($250.00) > > shopping sprees and one other > shopping spree for $150.00 (If I > > remember correctly). > > > > This time the game is FOR
[meteorite-list] AD: MY NEW WEBSITE
Its taken me quite a while to figure out how to build an ecommerce website but I finally have my creation at: http://www.treasureshaven.com/ This will be more than just a meteorite site and I hope to eventually have a very large variety of rocks and minerals listed also. But there are now just over a hundred meteorites on offer so there should be something for everybody. Next week I have plans of listing a very large amount of stuff on the site so keep checking all week for new stuff. Let me know if you have trouble with anything as I only just finished the site and there might still be some bugs Sincerely DEAN BESSEY New Website: http://www.treasureshaven.com/ .. If anybody makes an order this week I will send for free a good luck crystal collection consisting of quartz, amethyst and citrine a gram or two each - the perfect size to carry arround for luck. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Gold Hoard Found in England
> From: Greg Hupe > > think also that the true story is all about good luck and > the willingness to get permission and agreements from > property owners! > It is more than that. It is also an example of common sense historical artifact laws at work. Britain has constructed their artifact laws in such a way that it is in a finders best interest to report all of their findings (It is also illegal to not report your findings but that dont really give you much incentive and wont work anyway). As a result whenever artifact or coin hoards get found in UK everybody who is interested gets to study them and learn as much history as possible from the stash. And the actual finder gets more money for them than if he tried to sell them in secret on the UNESCO black market (Probably has to pay taxes on the sale of the hoard also). Finder, science, general public, government, land owners - everybody wins with british cultural property laws. If this stash of gold was found in Italy, Israel, Egypt or Peru, the site would have been very quickly destroyed behond recognition and reburied (After dark and probably all in one night) to hide any evidence of the sites existance, and the gold melted down, stamped Johnson matthey and (With the governments full blessing) shipped out of the country. Rather than being studied by researchers as this hoard will be, it would have gone on the next fed ex flight out and went directly from the archaeological site to a swiss bank vault. It would have been UNESCO at work Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Gold Hoard Found in England
Well, I am not that up on british law and maybe there is a british legal clause that the guys dont own it. That is however different from what the article says as it clearly says that they will split the proceeds (Not that reporters always get the details right when it comes to value). It is also contrary to what my friends who are coin and artifact dealers have to say about british cultural property laws. Most of them are quite happy with how the british handle things and you never hear stories about how they got screwed by the cultural property department (Compare what people have to say about britain to what they say about canadian cultural property laws for example). Maybe though you are right and that these guys will in fact not get a cent. I am not a lawyer. But I am leaning toward thinking that they will get a fair shake come payoff time. But if I am wrong and these guys do get their loot legally stolen from them by the government you can bet that the next gold stash that is found wont end up being studied and on public display but will discreetly get sent to switzerland shaped as not so small shiney cubes. My bet is that the guys running the cultural property system in britian is smarter than that. Cheers DEAN --- On Thu, 9/24/09, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: > From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Gold Hoard Found in England > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 3:46 PM > Hi Greg, Dean, All, > > This amazing hoard was found just a short distance away > from me near a place called Brownhills at the side of the > A5. Lots of discussion about its value on the news as usual. > I think that in this case it will be classed as treasure as > it was deliberately hidden ( I think the law is different if > it is classed as lost ) and will not belong to the landowner > or the finder, so will not be sold but go to the museums. > Once valued their will be a reward allocated which in this > case will belong to the finder as he got permission to > search from the landowner. Apparently he has agreed to share > that with the landowner...which only seems fair. > > I intend to visit the museum in Birmingham over the weekend > to see this exciting historical find right on my doorstep. > > Graham Ensor, UK > > > dean bessey > wrote: > > > From: Greg Hupe > > > > > > think also that the true story is all about good > luck and > > > the willingness to get permission and agreements > from > > > property owners! > > > > > It is more than that. It is also an example of common > sense historical artifact laws at work. Britain has > constructed their artifact laws in such a way that it is in > a finders best interest to report all of their findings (It > is also illegal to not report your findings but that dont > really give you much incentive and wont work anyway). > > As a result whenever artifact or coin hoards get found > in UK everybody who is interested gets to study them and > learn as much history as possible from the stash. And the > actual finder gets more money for them than if he tried to > sell them in secret on the UNESCO black market (Probably has > to pay taxes on the sale of the hoard also). Finder, > science, general public, government, land owners - everybody > wins with british cultural property laws. > > If this stash of gold was found in Italy, Israel, > Egypt or Peru, the site would have been very quickly > destroyed behond recognition and reburied (After dark and > probably all in one night) to hide any evidence of the sites > existance, and the gold melted down, stamped Johnson matthey > and (With the governments full blessing) shipped out of the > country. > > Rather than being studied by researchers as this hoard > will be, it would have gone on the next fed ex flight out > and went directly from the archaeological site to a swiss > bank vault. > > It would have been UNESCO at work > > Sincerely > > DEAN > > > > > > > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWAs, shergotite, Diogenite, L4s etc
See my updated website here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com I will be listing a lot more over the next week so check back for more meteorites and other crystals soon Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule
> > This is flat out wrong. There never was any consensus. Art went on record as saying that he did not mind ads. What happened was that 4 or 5 people decided that they would hijack Art's list as if it was their own and decide to prevent people from making "to many" (Whatever that means) ads. After months and months of bombarding the list with anti ad attack postings Art basically tried to shut up the malcontents that dont appriciate the fact that they have the privelidge being a part of what is basically the best online meteorite forum and said "OK, one a week". Then, rather than shut up, these 4 or 5 people decide to declare themselves sherrif and kept going on with this anti ad campaign and even the most minor offence (Even during big shows like tucson and munich) was enough to make attack postings. They decided to continue making an ass of themselves and continue their efforts to hijack arts list as if it was their own. Then after people started leaving the list because of all these attack postings they had the gall to claim that "They left because of the ads". (The fact that people werent leaving before their hijacking and attacking efforts is conveniently ignored). Nobody leaves this list because of the ads (Well there may have been 2 or 3 people who left because they are to stupid to use the delete button or block sender button in their email settings and dislaike the fact that people are allowed to own meteorites like the cultural property people in some governments but its an insignificant few). People leave because of the bickering. Dont try and twist it around that its not because of those 4 or 5 people that is basically ruining things for everybody. Becides why are you 4 or 5 people constantly harrassing the other 1000 of us with your diatrabes? An iq of about six would enable you to understand that the only person who matters is art so why dont you email him rather than the rest of us who cant do anything even if we did buy the fact that you somehow have the right to unilaterally declare yourselves sherrif even though you have no ownership or control of this list? The answer of course is that Art has the smarts to ignore the whackos. Nobody is forcing anybody to be a part of this list. You dont even need arts permission to leave. You can do it yourself. Stop this assanine BS and let us talk meteorites and have sales. If you have a problem dont complain to the other 1000 of us. And the "Majority consensus" that you refer to is about the same as what the "Majority consensus" of an iranian election would be. It is flat out not the will of the majority of list members or the list owner but the will of 4 or 5 people who wants to run the list as they see fit (Like the aftermat of an Iranian election). I suspect that cottingshams lastest excessive postings are designed to entertain and see how big an ass that certain paople can make of themselves by complaining about them. Some people has posted 2 anti ad attacks for every one of cottingshams supposedly excessive ads. The other 1000 of us are surely happy about that. Go away. The consensus of the silent majority dont want to listen to your attacks anymore Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule
> Dean, > Check the archives. As usual, you are flat out wrong. Art > made the rule, not four or five members. This is his > forum and his rules. Several members weighed in before the > decision was made. > Take Care, > Adam > Art made the rule after declaring that he dont care (Check the archaives) and 4 or 5 people bombarded the list with hundreds of anti ad postings making the list unbearable. But my real question is "What are you trying to acompolish by bombarding the other 1000 of us with multiple postings about the fact that you dont like lots of ads". We have no say in the matter wither we like it or not. Lets say that me the the other 1000 list members agree with you 100% and we want cottingham and big steve kicked off the list? What do you want us to do? Bombard Art with hundreds of complaints in the same way that these 4 or 5 people are bombarding the rest of us about the compalints about ads? You are complaining to the wrong people in your effort to stop all of these ad postings. The other 1000 of us have no say in the matter. This has been going on your years and years. We have had to put up with these hundreds of anti ad postings for years. Dont you think its time to give it a rest? If Art actually cared he would do something about it. These 4 or 5 people evidently care more than art does so dont try creating this holier than thou attitude in the name of art. Ad's arent the problem. These attack postings are the real problem (5 postings per as commenting on how bad the ad postings are dont seem like a sensible use of posting time. This has gone on for years. Its time to only email art in private if you dont like how the list is run. The other 1000 of us dont really want to be a part of this crap. Sincerely DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (No More) One-Ad Per Week Rule
Great Idea=2C have a real vote by all 900 members to see if they want to ha= ve an ad post by each and every member every other day which is still less = than your average. =20 Gary > But that snot what the question for the referendum would be. The referendum question should read: SHOULD WE RIGIDLY STICK TO THE ONE A WEEK RULE NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE, EVEN DURING SHOWS, WITH NEW IMPORTANT FALLS AND ANY OTHER POSSIBLE SCENARIO WHERE MORE THAN ONE AD A WEEK WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO THE LIST MEMBERS AT LARGE EVEN BY DEALERS WHO ALMOST NEVER OTHERWISE POST ADS __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Almost 200 NWAs now on Ebay
I have been busy the last couple days and have listed well over 100 NWAs on ebay and still adding more as I write. I have a big ebay meteorite listing weekend so check back all weekend for first pickings as my prices are pretty low. Lots of 1 cent and really low starting price auctions also See my items here: http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQ_fsubZ4QQ_sidZ1598024QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322 Or search AMUNRE on ebay. If you see a quantity of buy it nows that you like or some of the larger meteorites email me and maybe I can offer you a lower price on some of them Cheers DEAN AMUNRE on ebay PS: Dont forget to check out my website also http://www.meteoriteshop.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Metal detector Question
If somebody was wanting a metal detector with plans to use it searching for meteorites, gold nuggets and coins in Australia what would be the best metal detector to get? What things in general does one look for in buying a metal detector? Thanks DEAN __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: EL3 Sale on Ebay
I have listed more than seventy ebay auctions of Al Haggounia 001 paleo EL3. All at prices lower than you usually see and many auctions started at a penny and some large individuals to 36 kilos with lots of cheap 3 to 10 kilo ones. See here: http://stores.ebay.com/DEANS-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES__W0QQ_sidZ1598024?_nkw=el3&submit=Search Or do a ebay search on my ebay user id AMUNRE I have over 250 meteorites in total listed on ebay so see all my auctions for some great NWAs. If you see some of the larger ones that you want email me and I might be able to do a better deal Sincerely DEAN AMUNRE on ebay http://www.meteoriteshop.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lucite Embed
Somebody made this with a zagami 10 or 15 years ago. See here (This is not my website) http://www.marscube.com/about_fr.html It is pretty cool looking although in reality a very expensive paperweight. It was a popular item that sold for around $150 on ebay (At least thats what I easily sold a couple for at one time some years ago). Came with a nice descriptive writeup. I dont remember any other meteorite having this done with it. If one wanted to actually embed a meteorite in something like this how would one go about doing it? Sincerely DEAN --- On Mon, 30/11/09, Greg Stanley wrote: > From: Greg Stanley > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lucite Embed > To: jose...@hotmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Received: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 1:15 PM > > Jose: > > I do not know if it would impact the value, but I don't > think I would do it... it just seems too... "permanent." I > remember seeing this in San Diego with a lunar meteorite; it > was pretty neat, but I'm sure it was an imitation, but I do > not know. If anyone has been to the Air and Space Museum > in San Diego - perhaps they know. > > Best of Luck, > > Greg S. > > > > From: jose...@hotmail.com > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:04:45 -0500 > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Lucite Embed > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > What do you think on get small meteorite fragments and > micromounts embedded on lucite with the respective > information at a side, as a way to preserve and display > them? Do you think that with this a meteorite will lost its > value or will suffer any damage on the future? > > > > Thanks, > > Jose > > > _ > > Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what > you do online. > > http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010 > > __ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > _ > Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2 > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Classic Ebay Letter
This dont pertain strictly to meteorites except that ebay has become the worlds best source of supply but last July ebay suspended me for a week because of something with my pearl auctions. They wouldent tell me what and a phone conversation with the worlds rudest person told me that it would be a security violation to tell me what was wrong with my auctions (Said if they told me what was wrong I could do things to get around the rules and list again). Usually they refused to even respond to emails asking what the problem was. Well, they finally answered one of my emails asking what was wrong with my auctions. I still have no idea what was wrong with my auctions but at least they answered my emails. Now I have to do some guesswork so that I can list pearls again. Not sure what counterfeit and replica items have to do with my pearl auctions. Just goes to show. You cant depend on running strictly an ebay business Cheers DEAN - Dear Dean, Thank you for writing eBay in regards to your items that were removed in July. Your listings were removed because it contained indicators that are commonly associated with fraudulent listings. Due to security concerns, I'm unable to share with you the specific criteria that we used to make this decision. We keep this information confidential, to prevent potential misuse. Please understand that it's against eBay policy and illegal to sell counterfeit or unauthorized items. This policy protects intellectual property and protects buyers from purchasing counterfeit or fraudulent items. eBay can remove a listing if we believe that the sale of the item might create liability for the buyer, the seller, or a third party. For more information on the eBay Replica, Counterfeit Items, and Unauthorized Copies policy, please visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html Click the "Show" links for more information about the policy, examples of items not permitted on eBay, and the reason why eBay has this policy. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, eBay Trust and Safety __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Whites MXT + Minelab Explorer SE Pro
Becides that one does anybody have any opinions on the Minelab Explorer SE Pro Details here: http://www.kellycodetectors.com/minelab/explorerSE_pro-buy.htm Thanks DEAN --- On Sat, 12/12/09, Jeff Kuyken wrote: > From: Jeff Kuyken > Subject: [meteorite-list] Whites MXT > To: "Meteorite List" > Received: Saturday, 12 December, 2009, 11:51 PM > Hi all, > > Just wondering if anyone here uses (or has used) a Whites > MXT detector? If so are they any good not just for > meteorites but also gold and relics? > > Thanks, > > Jeff > __ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Exploding Fireball in New Zealand Proves a Mystery
A couple days ago this "event" was the headline news here in new zealand. It was reported as multiple witnesses seeing a plane crash in a fireball in the lake. It wasnt reported as a strange event (Not on the 6 oclock news anyway). It was reported as a plane crash. Search and rescue and volunteers were doing a search of the area even though no reports of planes were missing and no planes were overdue on flight plans and nobody had reported missing persons to the police. I might consider going to look for the possible meteorite but cultural property laws here is such that you are not even allowed to possess a meteorite more than 30 days after finding it so I wont bother. But in any case New Zealand has such huge amounts of rainfall and a very lush countryside with lots of trees and vegetation that is usually set against volcanoes and mountains which are everywhere. This keeps tourists coming (and happy) but the environment would be almost impossible to find a meteorite in anyway - and it wouldent last long with all the rain. Cheers DEAN --- Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikatotimes/3945431a6579.html > > Exploding fireball proves a mystery > Waikato Times (New Zealand) > 30 January 2007 > > Was it a bird? Was it a plane? Was it a bird > striking a plane? > > The exploding fireball which reportedly crashed to > earth in or around > Lake Waikare, near Te Kauwhata, on Sunday afternoon > has so far proved a > mystery. > > It might have been the most exciting event to occur > in Te Kauwhata since > the last police booze sting, but witness Grace > Walters could only > conclude it was "one of those things". > > The Rescue Co-ordination Centre New Zealand was > alerted after > eyewitnesses saw a ball of flames going down over > the lake and heard an > explosion. > > However, after helicopters and rescue boats searched > the area and fire > services talked to farmers with nearby properties > the search was called > off. > > "I saw it drop down, but couldn't see it hit the > water for the trees," > Mrs Walters said. "It's one of those things - a > mystery." > > No aircraft had been reported overdue and police had > not received calls > from anyone missing friends or family. > > Steve Calveley, president of the Auckland > Astronomical Society, said it > could have been a meteorite. "An awful lot get > reported but few get > found," he said. "It is pretty rare that someone can > pinpoint where they > land." > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD/SALE/BIG DISCOUNTS/NEED HELP/NEW WEBSITE
I have been working on building one of those fancy ecommerce websites for almost a year now - ever since ebay raised their listing fees on store items between 250% and 500% last year and I got reinspired recently after ebay announced yet another fee increase in my bread and butter under $10 items. Its been tough going and I have had to learn minimal PHP programming but I think that I have something that works now. There are still some bugs and I need to fix up a couple things but nothing serious now (I hope anyway). So without further adio my new ecommerce website is located at: http://www.neptuneposeidon.com/ A big 30% discount of anything of interest and only $5 postage in total no matter how much that you order. THIS DEAL AND DISCOUNT ONLY APPLIES FOR TODAY AND ONLY FOR THE NEW SHOPPING CART. I WANT TO TEST THE SHOPPING CART TO SEE IF IT WORKS SO OFFERING A HUGE DISCOUNT TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY MAKES A PURCHASE. I want to see what problems that I will have with the site. However, there is a catch to this deal. In order to get it you have to register on the site as a user and do a "checkout". I havent tested the paypal checkout yet so when you checkout click check/money order and I will send you another email with the total afterwards that you can use for paypal. I just want to see if my shopping cart site works before I start loading a lot of stuff on it. There is a bug in the system where the items wont show sold until somebody finished the checkout process. This means that if two people attempts to buy the same item at the same time the second person to checkout wont know that the item has already been sold. So, in the event that two people buy the same item the first person to finish the checkout process will get the item. Now I will hold my breath and see if my site works: Cheers DEAN And the new website that you have never seen before is: http://www.neptuneposeidon.com/ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION REALIZATIONS
sick of them so drop the price to one cent and they get $20. Look at farmers "massive 1 cent sales" that he always posts ads to this list for. Some of his stuff actually goes for one cent (Dont believe me - look over his closed auctions over a peroid of time). The previous and next week will get more. He sells stuff at one cent but you can bet he dont stay in business because those 1 cent sales determins the value of his meteorites. Dont sound like a market guage to me. Auction realization prices are outdated the minute they are printed and are nothing more than a reference item. (7)Who buys at auctions? If you go to almost any regular auction in any collectible you will find the hall half filled with dealers. Dealers are there to buy stuff for resale (Well, they also buy on behalf of customers who want to remain annonomous or cant attend). So you can bet that they are not paying top dollar. (This supports item #6). So for these reasons I believe realizations should be made freely available. More potential marketing, more trust in the process (One has to wonder just why information is not made available to and deliberately witheld from buyers - just look at the lies the moroccans tell everybody (including what they tell me) about the TKW of their recent find. Nobody trusts a moroccan anymore - Not that non moroccan dealers have not also been guilty of lying about TKW and pairings but thats another matter). This uncertainly reduces the price that moroccans get for their meteorites in the long term as you always have this doubt about what you are buying. It might help with legal problems (Like everybody else in america, Auctioneers can be sued), gives more marketing potential for future auctions, creates a record for history and the idea that auction realizations reduces market prices is silly. Bloods auctions are included here because he asked for dealers opinions and it is currently the topic in question but I am talking about auctions in general. One last point. Farmer posted the price realized to langs auctions publicly. A lot of people will keep their own records (As from experience with other collectibles people want this information). An auction is an event that can take up all your time. You can bet that some of these people will make mistakes in the madness of an auction but those erroneous price realizations could easily become a matter of public record if thats the only record available. So its only my personal opinion as one dealer but that is my reasons why I believe prices realized should be made public. Sincerely DEAN BESSEY www.meteoriteshop.com www.neptuneposeidon.com AMUNRE on ebay Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: TONS OF UNCLASSIFIED NWA's LOADED ONTO EBAY
I took advantage of today's half price ebay listing day and listed more than 400 new ebay auctions - just over half are meteorites. Many are discounted dramatically as I am trying to raise some money and the sheer number of auctions flooding the market all at once means you might get some good deals. An excellent time to add to your NWA collection. I would also like to point out my auction #190083377354 for a classification (although you can get your meteorites classified at the same auction price by just emailing me). See my ebay user id AMUNRE http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=1&userid=amunre&include=0&rows=200&sort=3&completed=1 Sincerely DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mesosiderite?
It could be the mesosiderite that is floating around morocco and sold under lots of different NWA names but its hard to tell from your photo which is a bit blurry. See my ebay auction #190083328614 and 190083293199 which has better photos that you can compare yours to. The second one of my auctions is an unusually nice specimen of this mesosiderite and most are like the first photo. You occasionally find big chunks of metal also. If you have a strong rare earth magnet you will notice that the mesosiderite is much more strongly magnetic than an H chondrite also. So much more strongly magnetic that you wouldent really mistake one for the other. Hope this helps Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have an opinion? Mesosiderite or not? > > http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/mesosiderite.jpg > > Gary > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To all my past Mesosiderite purchasers: NWA4576
Since gary had a mesosiderite question I thought that it would be an opportune time to inform everybody who bought my mesosiderite that I now have a name. My apologies for this posting to those who never but there must be at least 3 or 4 dozen or more list members who have bought the un-named mesosiderite from me over the past several years. Like pretty much all dealers I have been selling the mesosiderite for several years and I have been promising everybody that I would get them a name although never got around to doing it. Most people I assume either got their own NWA name, used another or just plain dont care as everybody knows that all the NWA mesosiderites are all paired. Anyway, as promised if you bought a mesosiderite from me you now have an official name to call it by. It will appear in the next met bulletin as NWA4576 and you can use that name. TKW will be listed as around 30 kilos but of course everybody who is not trying to lie about the TKW knows that what they are selling is part of around 200 kilos in total TKW and in reality the entire fall should be known by one NWA number anyway. Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: MORE THAN 200 NWA's ENDING NOW ON EBAY
Last week I took advantage of ebays half price listing day to list a huge discounts the remainder of my old website meteorites as I start moving everything over to my new ecommerce site. So lots of great discounted deals ending over the next few hours for somebody wanting affordable NWAs cheap. See my ebay user id AMUNRE on ebay http://stores.ebay.com/AMUNRE-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_W0QQsspagenameZLQQtZkm If anybody wants to get your NWAs classified for an extra $79 I can cut 20 grams off and get it classified for you: Details here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/class/classify.html Auctions of note: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=190083293199 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=190083278127 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=190083343100 Sincerely DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good One. This is the best one that I have herd since the pellisons reported that they see terrorists behind every rock and on the other side of their shot glasses. I was going to respond to this a couple days ago but well, its hard to type when you cant stop laughing at the stupidy and nievity of the posting. Do you ever try and study up on something and think a little before putting mouth in gear? This is all to funny. Trying to make people believe that american legal standards work in Peru. You have a piece of paper with something written on it. Do you know what a contract is worth in peru? I can assure you its worth less than in morocco where people dont bother getting contracts for deals worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. The value of your contract is certainly worth less than the 100 sole banknote that you hand the cop in charge of enforcing (Or turning a blind eye) the protection of your bomb crater. Do you know that in peru the police (excluding the tourist police), immigration and customs officials make mexicos traffic police seem like honest respectable law enforcement people (And theres an oxymoron for you - "mexican traffic police" and "honest" in the same sentence)? In Peru if you want to buy looted artifacts you go to the police, government and immigration officials (Better have some good connections first before you try that though). Let me ask yo this? Did you pay the police before you got your document? Police in peru wont take a statement from you without payment first. In Egypt they call it "Backish". In Peru they dont try and sugar coat the fact. You should know before you search your crater that this is not kansas anymore. And here is something even funnier than thinking peru is an american state with enforcable american laws. I have already beaten you to the crater. About two or three years ago when the meteorites were being paraded through Peru's media (And obviously not meteorites even from th epictures) a couple of my friends went there looking anyway even though I told them it was a waste of time (Its easy to get to). But peruvian scientists declared the basalt to be meteorites. But you have to remember peru is a place where scientists and the government are all for the destruction of cultural artifacts in the name of keeping them out of collectors hands and this wholesale destruction has the full support of UNESCO. For example all around lima the shantytowns are built over old graveyards and sewage is totally destroying the items buried underneath. However, Peruvian law is such that if you dig a hole in your own backyard and salvage the artifacts that will be destroyed completely with sewagage in 10 years time you will get arrested and put in jail. Pre columbian graveyards all contain gold by the ton but the gold artifacts are all melted down into bars (Once melted down pre colombian gold artifacts are then legal to export). This with the full support and knowledge of the peruvian government and UNESCO. Make no wonder the really smart peruvian government scientists declared them meteorites. But you know what. The police in Peru are only interested in things of value. Since there is nothing of value (Except old scraptnel which could be sold as scarap metal I guess) in or around your crater and you have a legal document to protect it well maybe the police will enforce your legal title. You have the legalities to protcet your crater all in place. I would write more but this is just to funny. Sincerely DEAN PS: For people who want to know what this is the crater is an old bomb crater and the meteorites are either scraptnel or volcanic basalt - something you would think somebody from peru would know - even without university training. I had saved some of the online news reports of the meteorite crater that was in peru's media a couple years ago but unfortunately I seem to have deleted the links. Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob
I have been to peru maybe 20 times or more. I love the place and have a lot of friends there. And as somebody said yesterday on this list I can attest that the pisco sour is the worlds best drink (Worth going to peru just to drink it). Most of the time I go to arequipa where most of my peruvian friends live (And near where your crater is located). I used to pay people to grow black alpacas for me so that I could get rugs and teddy bears made out of black alpacas (Black is hard to get and I had to get them bred for me). I have exported many thousands of alpaca handicraft items which I sold on ebay and had customs made for me (When I lived in Canada I used to supply many alpaca farms in north america with teddy bears which I could supply cheaper than they could make them themselves from breeding the alpacas themselves). I also used to buy large amounts of minerals like peruvian opal which I bought hundreds of kilos at at time. Most of my friends in peru are in the tourist industry so I have lots of connections. You are right that most peruvians are honest - but the police are not. I can also tell the difference between volcanic basalt and meteorites. Your two links that you showed us shows a lot of cute maps and pictures of people but like the martian frass nutcase you dont show any actual meteorites (or even bomb craters for that matter). Unfortunately I stopped going to peru a couple years ago when I got married so no longer import the minerals and alpaca products. So yes, I am very familiar with the workings of Peruvian customs, police, immigration officials ect and not just making up stories. I know what I am talking about here when it comes to peru. As I said, I know in detail how life works in peru (And as I said earlier you should be aware yourself before you go that its not like kansas anymore - look at a map. Peru is outside the US borders and outside US laws). Cheers DEAN And as per my earlier email I already had your crater searched. I beat you to it. There are no meteorites --- Randall Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dean, > > How much time have you actually spent in Peru? > Most of the people in Peru are good and honest > people. Some police accept bribes. True. This is a > poor country but many people are not as corrupt as > you make them out to be. You paint a very dark > picture of a country filled with good people. Laugh > on... > > I'll provide the links you're missing. > > > www.geocities.com/astroycpa/meteoritoaqp2feb2004.html > > > http://www.graphicmail.de/rwcode/default.asp?SiteID=3691&Section=13234 > > More can be found using the Google search terms- > "Meteorito Aplao" or "Meteorite Aplao" > > > Randall > > dean bessey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good One. This is the best one that > I > have herd since the pellisons reported that they see > terrorists behind every rock and on the other side > of > their shot glasses. I was going to respond to this a > couple days ago but well, its hard to type when you > cant stop laughing at the stupidy and nievity of the > posting. > Do you ever try and study up on something and think > a > little before putting mouth in gear? This is all to > funny. Trying to make people believe that american > legal standards work in Peru. You have a piece of > paper with something written on it. Do you know what > a > contract is worth in peru? I can assure you its > worth > less than in morocco where people dont bother > getting > contracts for deals worth hundreds of thousands of > dollars. The value of your contract is certainly > worth > less than the 100 sole banknote that you hand the > cop > in charge of enforcing (Or turning a blind eye) the > protection of your bomb crater. > Do you know that in peru the police (excluding the > tourist police), immigration and customs officials > make mexicos traffic police seem like honest > respectable law enforcement people (And theres an > oxymoron for you - "mexican traffic police" and > "honest" in the same sentence)? In Peru if you want > to > buy looted artifacts you go to the police, > government > and immigration officials (Better have some good > connections first before you try that though). Let > me > ask yo this? Did you pay the police before you got > your document? Police in peru wont take a statement > from you without payment first. In Egypt they call > it > "Backish". In Peru they dont try and sugar coat the > fact. You should know before you search your crater > that this is not kansas anymore. > And here is something even funnier than thinking > peru > is an american state with enforcable american laws. > I > have already bea
Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob - NEWSPAPER ARTICLE
I found the newspaper clipping but unfortunately it seems that the online paper (http://www.larepublica.com.pe/) has taken down the link so I no longer have the photos of the bomb crater and volcanic basalt meteorites. All I have is the email that my friend sent to me with the forwarded text. But on or about Feb 5th, 2004 it has this article below: Bola de fuego cae en cerro de Arequipa _ Por GESSLER OJEDA Arequipa.- Los pobladores Científico Martín Fernández muestra fragmentos de un meteorito. vieron una enorme bola de fuego que se abrió paso por una espesa y oscura masa de nubes en el sector de El Castillo, distrito de Aplao, provincia de Castilla. El extraño objeto se precipitó a gran velocidad e impactó en un lejano cerro causando un potente estruendo y el terror de los pobladores. Se sintió un remezón. Era como un terremoto, dijeron los lugareños cuando se presentaron en la comisaría de Aplao, capital de la provincia, para reportar el extraño fenómeno. Otros llamaron al Instituto Geofísico de la Universidad Nacional de San Agustín (Unsa) para indagar más sobre el hecho que ocurrió el pasado lunes a las 12:30 horas. El Instituto Geofísico informó que no pueden afirmar ni descartar que se trate de un meteorito, pero aceptan que la ivestigación se maneja en ese sentido. Los datos del Departamento Científico de la Unsa no se contradicen con las versiones que llegaron desde Aplao. No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Met Central posting problems
What is weird is that I get the scattered message as people post (Like I am supposed to) but every 3 or 4 days I get a bunch of a dozen or more messages all at once that were posted over the previous few days but not posted. There dont seem to be any pattern to the ones I get right away and the ones that are a part of the bunch. Sincerely DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com --- "Matson, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alright, now that's irritating. "Test" messages go > through, but real > posts don't. Will try again with my third attempt > of a bolide report > post from last night: > > - - - - > > Originally sent: 3/1/2007 10:20pm PST > Resent: 3/2/2007 1:50pm PST > Sending now: 3/2/2007 2:14pm PST > > Hi All, > > Was out getting the mail and was treated to a nice > fireball > descending and moving right-to-left, starting in > Cassiopeia in > the northwest. The particulars in case someone else > in the > southern California area saw it: > > Date: 3/1/2007 > Time: 8:25 pm PST > Location: Irvine, CA (33.631N, 117.817W) > Starting azimuth: 320 +/- 5 > Starting elevation: 22 +/- 2 deg > Ending azimuth: 295 +/- 5 > Ending elevation: 12 deg +/- 1 deg > Duration: 3-4 seconds > Speed: on the slow side > Brightness: -7 to -8 > Color: orange > Comments: no fragmentation, but a "thick" meteor > track > about a quarter-degree wide in the cross-track > direction. > > No sonic booms heard any time in the following 4 > minutes. > I'm about 90% sure I heard electrophonic hissing > coincident > with the visible display. I can't be 100% sure, but > it may > have been the hissing that prompted me to turn and > see the > meteor. I was standing near a tree, a metal light > poll, and > the somewhat large metal box containing all the > mailboxes > for my end of the street. > > --Rob > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MORE PHOTOS: BL meteorite NWA1685 Achondrite clasts?
I got the BL Meteorite 3 or 4 years ago and no more seems to have turned up and no other dealer seems to have had any either. Of course you never know for sure with NWAs but it appears that I may have had it all. I may have a couple pieces in storage in Canada with my mother, brother or friend but I think that I only have two slices left. These I sent to blaine reed before I left canada (Who had them on display in denver last year) and I got them back for the munich show shortly afterwards (Where they were also on display). I had I think eight pieces in munich. I just put sandpaper to one side of each of these two slices and it is unusually soft and powdery for an LL. Certainly one of the nicest and most interesting chondrites you will find. See the photos of both sides of my last two slices here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/bl.html Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com (PS:I would sell these for $1.90 a gram if anybody is interested. Probably worth a lot more) Each slice has crust on one end. --- tett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > I have been having fun with my BL meteorites and > just aquired a nice ~100 > gram slice. > > There was much discussion about this LL5 meteorite a > while ago because of > its gorgeous crust. Not so much discussion on its > interior. My new slice > is incredible! It has large homogeneous grey clasts > which do not attract > magnets. I was wondering if these clasts are > achondritic? Can an LL5 > brecciated meteorite include abundant achondritic > clast or would this alter > its classification > > Does anyone have more info on its classification? > The Met Bull. still lists > this as provisional. > > The first pic is of my new slice. Notice the large > central inclusion. > The second pic is a smaller 6 gram end slice and the > third pic is my 66 gram > beautiful individual. > http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/metpics/NWA1685_99.jpg > http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/metpics/NWA1685_5.8.jpg > http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/metpics/NWA1685_66.8.jpg > > > Jeff Kuyken also has some nice pics and info on this > stuff. > http://www.meteorites.com.au/odds&ends/bl.html > > Cheers on a wintery Saturday morning in Canada. > > Mike Tettenborn > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] MORE PHOTOS: BL meteorite NWA1685 Achondrite clasts?
I got the BL Meteorite 3 or 4 years ago and no more seems to have turned up and no other dealer seems to have had any either. Of course you never know for sure with NWAs but it appears that I may have had it all. I may have a couple pieces in storage in Canada with my mother, brother or friend but I think that I only have two slices left. These I sent to blaine reed before I left canada (Who had them on display in denver last year) and I got them back for the munich show shortly afterwards (Where they were also on display). I had I think eight pieces in munich. I just put sandpaper to one side of each of these two slices and it is unusually soft and powdery for an LL. Certainly one of the nicest and most interesting chondrites you will find. See the photos of both sides of my last two slices here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/bl.html Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com (PS:I would sell these for $1.90 a gram if anybody is interested. Probably worth a lot more) Each slice has crust on one end. Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] trades vs ads
Dave, I wouldent worry to much as long as you dont overdo it. Art is on record as saying that he dont care about the ads and the policy was only put in place after 3 or 4 people whined and complained and spammed the list with more wasted bandwidth than the people posting dozens of sale postings a week. More people want the ads than are offended by them. As long as you are reasonable and not flood the list with minor insignificant or duplicate sale and trade postings over and over every day or two I doubt you will piss off more than one or two people who doesnt matter anyway. Just use common sense and be reasonable and you wont piss off more than 1% of the list. A lot of people are interested when you come up with new things that would be considered an ad by some people. You will notice that the biggest whiners are among the biggest abusers of the one week rule making "announcements of something new and important" and then claiming its not an ad. Use common sense and you will be fine. Cheers DEAN --- Dave Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > Bit of advice needed - we all know the "1 ad per > month rule" set by Art - > does the same rule apply to trading/swapping? > I ask this because, as some of you know I am > undergoing an amicable divorce > and I am keeping my minerals an meteorites. > However, I am not in a position > to sell for cash for "technical reasons" but I can > swap - I was just > wondering what the team felt about swaps ( BTW I > have no intentions of > swamping the list, of course - I just have another > item I might offer up) > > thanks for your indulgence > > dave > > > Dave > IMCA #0092 > Sec.BIMS > www.bimsociety.org > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Never Miss an Email Stay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile.yahoo.com/services?promote=mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Not Proud of Tom
While I have to admit (Somewhat embarrasingly) that I did read and had a laugh out of the past website and that it was mildly amusing in an offensive sort of way, I have to agree with anne. I didnt feel offended but I could easily see that the site was offensive to 3 or 4 of the "target" people and crossed the line between good natured humour among friends and was derogatory rather than funny. With several of the "target" people the humour was a mild form of the N word jokes and not harmless poking fun - and there was no apology from "proud tom" who didnt see any harm when these target people publicly complained about being offended. The internet is open to the world including non meteorite people who dont know personally the target people. Not exactly the way you would want your industry portrayed in public outside your own industry. I am with ann on this one. I say let Proud tom rest (Or maybe I should say die) in peace. Sincerely DEAN 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AUCKLAND METEORITE PHOTO
Thought somebody would like this photo. The meteorite is way cool looking. Better than my photo shows. This is truely one of the worlds nicest meteorites. In the museum it is behind a dark glass and hard to take photos of. I had to photoshop the colors a bit to get it looking semi nice for my photo. I emailed the auckland museum and asked if it would be possible to get it taken out of the case so that I could get some really nice photos of it (I tried to bribe them by offering to donate a 25 gram slice of my CV3 if I could get some decent photos taken of it) but I got a very nasty email back from the museum saying that I should be well aware that it shouldent be handled anymore than necessary so it could be preserved for future generations to see. So I only have a so so photo. In any event my photo dont remotely do it justice but you might like it anyway. http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/aucklandmeteorite.jpg Sincerely DEAN Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Concerning the Peruvian possible impact
Gaetan, there is no "little bit more mystery to this story". The whole story has been conjured up by the mad delusions of somebody who somehow thinks that he knows what rocks from venus looks like - something even NASA dont know and can only guess at. There are no meteorites. The bomb crater was found a couple years ago (I told excatly when when I posted about this a week or so ago so see the archaives if you want to know exactly when this miracle of nature - and the peruvian military, came to life). Some reporter and "scientist" went there and found some volcanic rocks like is found all over southern peru and said "Wow, Really black rocks equals meteorite - we are rich and can now move to the USA and become a gringo". The scientist couldent have been a geologist since you would logically think that a real geologist (Or, for that matter, a half retarded 4 year old kid) could identify volcanic rocks that cover half of southern peru. My friends from arequipa went there soon after the "fall" and within a couple weeks after it was reported as a meteor crater in the local peruvian newspapers. I am told that it looks like an anti tank mine exploded and that there is scrapnel in the area. But hey. We dont know what rocks from venus looks like. Maybe the volcanoes dont deposit volcanic basalt all over southern peru. Maybe it is meteorites from venus and they just look different from all other meteorites. This might ruin my visions of the red (Green in ancient rome) venus goddess of love beliefs of what the planet venus is like for me though. I thought numerous goddesses swim nude in the warm tropical venus weather (Like they have in tahiti but no storms) waiting for earthings to go there. I believe that given that the planet is named after, and represents the love goddess that all of the planets meteorites are all shaped like erotic parts (With awesome flow lines). And since these peruvian rocks are not shaped like that they cannot be from venus. So case closed. That incorrect venesiun shape should be your proof that there are no meteorites in the mysterous bomb crater in southern peru. Now crying in my beer and needing lots more bought for me in ensisheim DEAN --- Gaetan Cormier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello All, > > To add a little bit more mystery to this story, > here's a video I found on > Google Video concerning a probable impact that > created a 3.8 quake according > to the description of this video. In this video we > can see a few big rocks > that are very dark... Intriguing...!! > > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=917251208884909709&q=meteorite > > I'm just wondering why that guy is just picking up > sand instead of the rocks > > -- > Gaetan Cormier > Member of the Impact Field Studies Group > http://eps.utk.edu/ifsg.htm > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: OVER 200 NWA METEORITES ENDING NOW ON EBAY
Last sunday I loaded over 200 NWA meteorite on ebay. Over two dozen including one over a kilo was started at only a penny. They have now begun ending and will all end over the next few hours. Mostly under 10 cents a gram so a great opportunity to get some NWA meteorites cheap. Quite a few CV3, mesosiderites and zagora included in the listings also See my ebay id AMUNRE Severeal hundred meteorites in my ebay store also. http://stores.ebay.com/AMUNRE-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm Sincerely DEAN AMUNRE on ebay www.meteoriteshop.com We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members & Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
While technically two rules have been violated (Posting personal messages and attacks) the content in my opinion more than justifies it. After all, if there is somebody who is going to make an effort to physically hard somebody who goes meteorite hunting or somehow hamper a legitimate meteorite search a lot of people would be interested and it is certainly meteorite related. I for one would like to know what certain people is capable of doing. Wither this is getting the mafia after you when searching allende in mexico, hiring police to cause one trouble in morocco, setting people up with the government to get arrested in oman ect, I would like to know so as to avoid contact with these people and to take any necessary action should I decide to take part in these search activities. You could I guess argue that this whole topic is not meteorite related since there are no meteorites except in one mad mans delusions, but given that meteorites and threats are in the same thread I am glad that I have as many of the details as possible of the situation. After all, I have been to arequipa peru dozens of times (And I actually had the crater in question investigated - although I never posted anything to the list concerning my "investigation" since there are obviously no meteorites in a bomb crater that has volcanic basalt and scrapnel scattered around it) but I do know from mikes email that I wouldent try and talk to the mad man of arequipa if I go to arequipa again. When he was a new misinformed meteorite lover you might want to talk to somebody and maybe explain things about meteorites to them. A potentially violent criminal who wont listen to comen sense about meteorites is a totally different matter altogether. I say there was nothing wrong with mikes posting and it is informative to at least some members. The people who are not interested of course wont read my email since they have been deleting emails from this thread long ago. People with an interest will read it. Sincerely DEAN Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT " ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated"
When I posted my ad this morning about 200 meteorites ending on ebay below is the similar message that I got: Not sure what is going on but it is either some sort of virus or some server is malfunctioning. I got a copy of my ad posting so I dont think anything is actually getting blocked Sincerely DEAN ___ ___ Action Taken: The message was blocked because of its subject. To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: dean bessey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: -74687104,29844523 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: OVER 200 NWA METEORITES ENDING NOW ON EBAY Attachment Details:- Attachment Name: N/A File: Infected.msg Infected? No Repaired? No Blocked? Yes Deleted? No Virus Name: Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT " ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated"
I am pretty sure this is not somebody sending a virus to the list. I am using yahoo web based email and just sent a text email in my ad posting that generated this for me so even if my computer did have a virus it would not have been sent with my email (Unless you received an attachment which I didnt receive) as yahoo mail would have caught it. It could be a virus but not one sent with postings Sincerely DEAN --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Tom, > > I'm running a comprehensive system scan right now so > soon I shall know if I've got > a 'bug' or not. Did you receive the same 'blocked > message' that Bill and Dean got? > > Gary > > -- Original message --- > Gary, > I got your message via the met list. I use a Mac so > no concerns for me. > > Regards, > > Tom > > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Gary K. Foote wrote: > > Bill, Dean and list, > > I use Nortons and it is up to date. If my puter is > infected I will unsubscribe > until I get things straightened out. Anyone else get > this message from my address? > > > BTW - I got both Bill's and Dean's posts to the > list. SOMEthing is causing this > 'backlash'. > > Gary > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Idea for list to think about
Putting code in the title is not really feisable. I am often short space anyway and already include my own code for example. However, if an odd code was inserted into the text, if you set the ebay search parameters to "Search title and description " you might still end up with the same result that you want and could filter them all to your site. Sincerely DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com --- Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Everyone! > > One of our beta testers asked if we could do > something to filter out the > junk ebay auctions. Here is one idea. > > If all the meteorite-lists "Sellers" added the same > code (example > "ML1947") in the title of all their auctions then > all of the "Buyers" > could search using that code and eliminate the junk. > On our page > visitors would have a choice of "All ebay Sellers" > or "Meteorite-List > Sellers" and would not have to remember any code. > > I don't know if there is enough interest to warrant > the extra step all > the sellers would have to do. If anybody feels > strongly one way or > another please discuss. If the list is in favor of > this, I suggest we > Not take up list bandwidth discussing what the code > should be. We should > let a few of the major players choose what works > best for them. > > I have my helmet on so throw away :-) > > Paul > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
