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Meteorite-list wrote: Dear Lists,
please clarify the relationship between geology and
Hello John
Circular diamond coring bits only came into use recently. The Willamette
donation was in the early 1900's. I can only assume that the saw method of the
time dictated the location of the cut: large heavy frames using a wire loop
with abrasives hand fed into the grove. It is not like
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Jeff Grossman jgross...@usgs.gov wrote:
Most of the metallic minerals in iron meteorites are described as
alloys in that they are composed of various metals combined together.
I understood the distinction was that the Fe Ni formed a chemical compound
not merely a mixture
I guess once again as with CCDs my education is outdated. I see that any metal
compound or mixture can be called an alloy. OR it has come into such common use
the distinction between mixture and compound is obsolete when talking about
metals.
Elton
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Mr EMan mstrema
I see that a new mineral came and went last decade and I don't recall a
discussion of it on the list. Course the list was may not have been around in
1995! It was found in Vaca Muerta. Fe3Ni. I also see that the IMA rejected it
as a new mineral. Passed along for your perusal from the
As the ravages of time rake through my memory...some is coming back to me. The
mineral Plessite is an intermediate mixture of both taenite and kamacite. It
may be the bulk mineral in iron meteorites. I need to find it it is also the
composition of the iron flecks in common chondrites of does
It is a statistical certainty that Apollo era urine is still in lunar and
Terran orbit Perhaps it has been freeze dried. Would make an interesting
micrometeorite.
Elton
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re:
We had a metallurgist on the list a few years back that insisted Widmanstatten
patterns were found everywhere and posted some micrographs supporting his
assertion. As I recall he got very ill with us when we pointed out why, what
he had photos of, weren't Widmanstatten patterns. It was focused
--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Alan Rubin aeru...@ucla.edu wrote:
snip... The metal liquid sank to the crater floor, incorporated some rapidly
melted silicate debris andcooled. This is a controversial model and not
universally accepted.
I think this theory has a potential fatal flaw if what we think we
Yes I do or in the local dialect yeppers. Silicate slag (a glass with also
with bands of ceramic/clay) a bi-product of iron smelting which has been
produced and disposed of-- all over Pennsylvania for at least 240 years. It
was a popular automotive and rail road bed filler.
This was tapped
Gosh, now I know where my ex mother-in-law got her genes!!!
Elton
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To mention once again: I am fairly sure it is against eBay terms of service to
sell an item outside of eBay once listed for the duration of the auction and
for an additional 90 days(?)there after. So delisting an item to sell it to
someone else outside the ebay system for whatever reason is a
IF this were a timed exposure, then the head would have been a constant
diameter along the trail. IMHO
Elton
--- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Aussie Photographs Meteor Through Telescope
To:
I have an apparent major fireball sighting Simi Valley/ Thousand Oaks/Stockton
Just a heads up.
Elton
The ball of light was white and large and had a very long trail of smoke. It
was in the Simi Valley/Thousand Oaks area. Anyone else see it or know what it
is?
I saw the ball of light from
I need to revise and extend my remarks from before. This probably is a meteor
in spite of our first judgments. I too piped in as an early naysayer because I
was thinking in the film paradigm. I've rethought the image in the digital
paradigm.
Long and boring and technical rationale:
I've
Bill the woman was elderly and just a few weeks before had been broken in on,
robbed and possibly beaten as I recall from early accounts. Had this the
trespassing happened before this robbery She would have likely offered them ice
tea.
I agree it was a vote getting ploy for the judge and the
The corollary--I ask because they obviously have confederates (if not actual
members themselves) on this list-- maybe they can bring us a Mercury sample?
Maybe Venus? Phobos? Demos? Saturn ring tektites?
I have some glass beads, tin mirrors, iron hatchets to swap. (It worked once
before
Panoramic digital photograph reveals two meteorite hunters( possibly well
financed IMCA members) disguised as Bedouins, in the distance collecting
meteorites by following a US Vehicle.
This was not detected until much later, only after processing and posting. No
one can be sure how long this
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, steve arnold wrote:
People have to learn to grow up.
Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!
I was unsure I'd ever see a day I'd be in agreement with you Steve. I/We
promised to not bash if you would stop doing things worthy of bashing. If you
completely refrain from talking about it
This is a quick message to all those that have send me samples in the couple
months-- most everyone is on the list. I've been on bed rest and haven't had
the time to look at everything and write everyone back. I've several hundred
emails to look back through so if you've not gotten an answer
For a pastime I occasionally help answer questions on Yahoo Ask!. Most are by
lazy, late, approaching deadline, homework assistance requests --but It helps
me keep a finger on the pulse of education and learning amongst today's
adolescents. Occasionally there are the navel contemplatives but
Is someone else off their meds again or does someone dislike folks from the
southern hemisphere in general??
I don't think you have a leg to stand on, Howard, regarding lecturing others
about list ethics... but Bob's dealings with The Chicago person or vice versa
are known to many and I think
This is a public retraction to my insinuation that Steve was acting unethically
regarding his collection as listed on the Encyclopedia of Meteorites website.
Steve, I apologize for all the appearance of challenging your ethics. Please
accept my apology for doing so. Crow was on my menu
--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Pekka Savolainen nuu...@dlc.fi wrote:
To me the form of the crystal looks like typical
plagioglace feldspar, (labradorite), (anorthosite + albite),
/N//a/(/A//l//S//i/3/O/8)/C//a/(/A/12/S//i/208).
Agreed in principle-- Going by the semi-waxy luster, cleavage, and apparent
I'm with Ken on this matter. I, frankly, am dumbfounded to see this material
held out as meteorites, as I believe a member of an collectors association
should be held to a higher standard and should police themselves more strictly
than they police others.
It is a breach of good taste if not
Hey Folks. I calculated the PGH area camera LOS at 126 degrees and the meteor
path is well east of that so I am not seeing a West to East path for sure and
looks like back to a SE to NW track?
Am I missing something?
Elton
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I found the below report at an answer site on the internet about Chesapeake
Crater (35my) but it looks comingled with another crater's data. The asker saw
this on a UHaul Truck. I thought the Uhaul featured panel was the Iowa Manson
Crater(74my).
Specifically what doesn't seem correct:
Ok Ok ok... I found this article cited (but don't want to pay the $32 to
download it):
Ancient impact structures on modern continental shelves: The Chesapeake Bay,
Montagnais, and Toms Canyon craters, Atlantic margin of North America by C.
Wylie Poag, Jeffrey B. Plesciab and Phillip C. Molzera
Dear List
I hope the good folks on this list understand that I am not the list
proctologist*. The claim that I am presently or recently outspoken on the list
regarding the malcontents isn't true. If you have an issue with something I
say, please write me directly so I can address it. Don't put
Jason wrote: Posting messages that were intended to be kept private to the
list is wrong - unless they are necessary in proving a situation such as a deal
gone wrong, or cheating having taken place,
So Jason which of your listed situations applies to what you've just done?
Were you drunk or
If you are thinking about responding to the Freebies string please consider
this before you make your final decision. I love you all one way or another,
Peace.
Elton
This is for everyone on both sides: This is not per se about the source of the
conflict but the way the members deal with it
Right Mark, that holds for ground impacts. The apparent diameter looks roughly
3-5 earth diameters and I don't think we are missing a major planet. I presume
someone will compare this to the known sizes of Shoemaker/Levy-9 to get an
estimate since that it the only frame of reference we have
I ment to say this before but this is IMCA business as formated and this is
not the list for that discussion. In fact the IMCA list is not for this
discussion. There are published procedures for filing a complaint against an
IMCA member even if the complainer isn't a member. Based on the
Shh (whispering) does any body know what type cell phone Mike Farmer
uses keep it quiet but pass it along... Anyone know what color it is???
Elton Sherlock Buttinski
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This is the cover story that the public was given. North Korean scientist
according to Pravda have found these shots were photo-shopped!!! The same
scientists claim to have the real unencrypted photos. They have all been
displaced to a central location on the lunar highlands. As many as 7
I have examined some of those freebies and they are NOT meteorites... maybe
that can be worked minds of the masses.
Elton
--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:
From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT(WIND Farm, ie SPAM)
Well one thing for certain this NOT the same perspective which was first
posted. Live an learn.
Elton
--- On Sat, 7/11/09, dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Astro Mikes meteor streak Photo
To:
I just did for some for funzies calculations about the kinetic energy a
meteoroid has during certain phases of flight.-- WOw!
Sorry for our metric friends I calculated results in foot pounds and US Tons.
A 5 kg stone passing into darkflight which is going around 1788.889m/s --a
little over a
Short gist: I felt the need for a working group /discussion platform to sort
out the nitty-gritty details regarding a major fireball sighting. Also to give
a sounding board/ semi-peer review for conclusions before they are released
into cyberspace. I hastily set up this group until something
On Thu, 7/9/09, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote:
Meteorites are worth 5 cents a gram to $1,000 a gram,
depending on how rare they are, Arnold said.
Three guesses which figure any property owner reading that
is more likely to ask for...
ROTFL MSOMN ( Rolling on the floor
I have exported the plots of the 16 AMS reports as well as some Non AMS reports
of significance and most of the towns where a witness made a report from. It is
an 8kb file that you can import into Google Earth. Should work on PC or Mac.
Possibly iPhones. The purpose of this file is to
Neagari - Feb 18, 1995 Japanese fall, L6 chondrite.
The Catalogue of Mets states : ...The next morning, in the city of Neagari,
Mr. K. Sasatani found a hole in the boot of his car and meteorite fragments
were on and inside the boot.
Yes the claim was substantiated and an interesting
I agree with Darren's new info. This is probably not in PA. I have started
plots and this looks more like over Maryland's Serpentine Barrens/Belt or more
southerly. Which may include West Virginia.
CAUTION: This could very well be in the vicinity of Camp David when more info
is confirmed.
or Unconfirmed Hammer Falls - Anyone have
info on these? (or specimens?)
To: 'Mr EMan' mstrema...@yahoo.com, 'Meteorite List'
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 'Galactic Stone Ironworks'
meteoritem...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 4:19 PM
Hi Elton,
The photo of the car
Disregard the Camp David caution as I don't believe it traveled that far.
Elton
--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Mr EMan mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Mr EMan mstrema...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Large fireball in PA!--MD or WV more likely
To: cyna...@charter.net, metlist meteorite
I have hand plotted 16 or so AMS reports on a printed map after assigning place
marks in Google Earth. One might look at all the reports and wonder if they
were looking at the same fireball. Of those, 11 are cleanly plottable, several
have glaring holes in them but were partially plotted for
I want everyone to know that this wasn't a post to dissuade anyone from
meteorite hunting and it in no means was a dig at Richard's post. I just took
the opportunity to put into prespective how deep this hobby is and can be a
life long quest for understanding. being tied into this list makes
atypical.
Good Luck in finding an answer
Elton
--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Mr EMan mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Mr EMan mstrema...@yahoo.com
Mike, I am coming in to this midstream--but if you can't
see chondrules BUT can see metal flakes AND it is weakly
attracted to a ND magnet, then this is strongly
Mike, I am coming in to this midstream--but if you can't see chondrules BUT can
see metal flakes AND it is weakly attracted to a ND magnet, then this is
strongly suggesting this isn't a meteorite. Some part of the things you've
found don't seem to fit inside the normal wisdom.
Elton
Last time I cut with a diamond blade it only would cut the nail and not the
skin--wanna give it a try and see if thinner blades can cut skin?
Mike they make a slab holder/jig which comes in few sizes that lets you cut
down below 10mm or so. Once you clamp the stone in the jig you clamp it in
What is there about this that makes me think it wasn't photographed in situ?
just kidding --but as always thanks Michael for making these envy-arousing
shots each day!
Elton
--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Rob Wesel r...@nakhladogmeteorites.com wrote:
Damn
Rob Wesel
Remember Mike that all pieces started out as shrapnel once disintegration
begins. Only those the fully tumble lose all their shrapnel features.
The maelstrom of SA's entry was punctuated buy multiple fragmentation events.
Which as much going on and as busy as the sky was I imagine there are
So... what... like a mining gang NEVER EVER pulled a prank on their mining
engineer?
Wind or water transported volcanic ash will date to the same age as the ash
fall they are composed of when using Zircon and Uranium dates because
mechanical transport doesn't reset the clock. Like most
Joe, Interesting for sure. It looks like much like ore. I didn't catch if it
was magnetically attractive. However that is the reason we have anomalous
achondirtes to search through. Like you offered please keep us informed. Good
Luck!
Elton
Here is a link to see some of them sliced and
Any heat hot enough to start fires that would be related to meteorites would
have to be coming from a very large meteorite hitting the ground is from
molecular bonds being rent in twain not from latent heat within the meteoroid
which in stone meteorites with low heat transmisivity could chill
Pierre, Here is what I have on the topic but not the details you seek perhaps.
During parts of Desert Shield, I was in Israel and visited the shop of a widow
who's husband was an artifact broker/collector. This was right across the
street from the US Embassy which was then in Tel Aviv. I've
The Oktibbeha Meteorite is a triple hitter for unusual meteorites and
unfortunately only a few grams are still in existence.
I believe someone asked about other meteorites which were found in entombed, in
burial mounds, etc. The Oktibbeha County, Mississippi meteorite found in 1857
in a
Who knows what justification was used but I've got a pretty good idea I know
what the real reason is. For 4 months I've had weekly phone calls with AF
Personnel all over the globe and against all belief I very much suspected that
something had gone dark. As to the article someone somewhere in
Pete sometime let me tell you about the First Church of the Navelites.. but to
your question
They would be called meteorites until identified as originating from the
Earth--then the debate is opened up again.
Recently someone at NASA or in the IAU stated the new definition of meteorite
Totally agree with Mark's quote below about Panspermia. As to reverse
contamination-- studies so far suggest launching and landing temperatures are
sufficiently low that neither process sterilizes the cargo: Mars to Earth or
Earth to Mars transport.
Elton
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Mark Ford
You are too kind, Carl. Let me address your questions inside your quote:
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
Q: I have a few follow-up questions for you; If an Earth meteorite (terrene)
were to return back to Earth, would we be able to identify it correctly?
A: Yes
OOps Popagui is spelled Popigai and is almost the same age as Chesapeake Bay.
I am aware there is a lot of brecciated quartzite in the rim so it is another
candidate for producing Earthites
Elton
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snip... Scientists suppose that the stones used to be a part of the
navigational system of a spaceship.
Fracking lunatics!@ Scientist eah?
If they were engineers they would know it is not from the navigation system--
it is from the subspace hyperdrive anti-matter pre-mixer..DUH
Elton
Hey Ed,
The usefulness as fuel depends on the concentration of water.
Rubbing Alcohol is 70% Isopropyl 30% water. The fuel line antifreeze(Heet TM
etc)is 99%. If you are using it in an alcohol stove you need the Heet vs
Rubbing alcohol.
Not much choice: either cut in oil or water or alcohol
From Mr Buttinsky Eman: I am a wee skeptical regarding meteorite fragments
from ancient impacts in general and Chixculub specifically. There is also an
H4 fragment recovered in sea floor dredging which was announced as the smoking
gun. Unfortunately I continue to get group postings reliably
A couple of points related to the questions posed
The Ries impactor is believed to have hurled multi-ton limestone sections up
slope onto the Alps, 100km/60miles away. It was far larger than Tunguska and a
different scenario all together save for it could have been a dead comet and
related
What is this and is it bigger than a bread box?
If there are any experts or (mind readers for that matter) who've figured this
one out please interpret nice in a petrographical--even dimensional context,
Thanks.
Elton
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ahhh thanks! Certainly an atypical color combo for a Lunar. Yes nice cut
indeed!
Elton
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com
is this nwa 4734 the monzoggabro, anyway nice slices and
nice cut.
aziz
Maryville, TN L6 fell on 28 Jan 83
That is the one that got me da fever
Elton
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Well only the Hupes can confirm provinence and I recognize the seller as a
meteorite seller but no idea whom now might be buying meteorites on eBay and
turning right around and selling them on eBay. One thing probable the write-up
was lifted from past Hupe auctions.
Elton
After 6+ years of looking for an affordable polarizing scope, I found a
MRH3-POL LOMO Polarizing scope complete with external lamp power supply. I
found it at non-profit thrift store in Kentucky. I paid the full asking
price... $20.
On the LOMO US websites they have no link and only who
Certainly bizarre. Have you ruled out natural asphalt aka pitch? In pure form
under desert sun it would be near liquid and when cold it shows a glass-like
fracture. For it to be terrestrially formed as a conglomerate it seems
certainly to have been reworked and consolidated from an original
Looks promising...anyone know how this stacks up with the fireball sighting
just announced?
Elton
--- On Wed, 4/22/09, Mike Groetz mpg...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Mike Groetz mpg...@yahoo.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Livingston mystery rock might be from space
To:
Well Mike, I am a fan of the Garmin Rino series 110/120/130 and 530/530(color)
They are water proof, 5-14 mile range dual GPS and FRS/GRS radio units which
can be slaved to a laptop GPS program and powered from either internal
batteries or off vehicle power. You can use several map sources
All the Rino units save for the 110(which still has the world wide city
database) have base street maps installed and the 130 and 130/530 have both
altimeters and have a GPS based compass. One more reason I like Rino is many
first responders have then and one never knows when that would assist
---Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
I have often wondered if anyone has bothered to hunt for more Peekskill.
Yes-- sorta. The path of Peeskill's final path goes over a 2+ mile wide wide
diagonal of the Hudson River making estern shore landfall at the Indian Point
My ISP continues to lose much of my email else send them in huge batches.
Some additional points to what was discussed thus far:
Iron migration to the core of a heat building/holding sized body is a buoyancy
issue and gravity driven so long as the iron remains molten.
Accretion probably
There was a question regarding the sorting of elements and why for example
common chondrules had more iron than did Carbonaceous chondrites. The reason
for the difference also includes why we use isotope ratios to determine from
where a parent body probably formed within the solar system.
Not adding an opinion but just about observation consistency.
Four points and a question:
1. Once again we are dealing with a reporter--which is a class of individuals
that consistently scramble eye-witness interviews.
2. His location was very close to the Doppler echo end track.
3. Owing to
--- On Thu, 4/2/09, meteorh...@aol.com meteorh...@aol.com wrote:
some of this story smells a little fishy... snip.. it was reported that
Honorable(sic) Judge Jerry M. Daniel told the guys to get out of dodge.“
Georgia and Alabama are the only US states left where the common law of
This is not the post anyone is expecting and it addresses everyone so please
read to the end. As I am the originator of the thread this is for all: from
the pacifist who were not privy to Steve's of Illinois complete meteorite
dealings and for the others that experienced them personally:
Forwarded links from the Meteorobs list Looks like a fishy squishie The
degree symbol appears to be part of the the substitution of ? in the
coordinates but I can't easily jam it into any of my map programs.
43*15'57.11 N
05*23'25.46 E
.amateur astronomer located in Marseille, France
Someone please forward this to Steve as he has me filtered. I wouldn't want him
to get blind-sided or miss out on all of the white knuckled anticipation and
glee some of us will be having today as a result of his April Fools Prank.
I am presently in the process of reporting criminal activity
melody of satire I'm sure you've heard the song.
Elton
--- On Wed, 4/1/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [IMCA] Re: Wire Fraud and Steve Arnold of Chicago...was nwa 1794
To: Mr EMan mstrema...@yahoo.com
Cc
Hello Larry, I was the one that put dust bunnies in the discussion mix
whilst discussion space weathering color changes to meteoroids.
I was using it generically and did not limit it to particles which were neutral
in charge and gravitationaly emplaced. I was thinking in terms that there
Yes actually but I'll let you decide when and where to announce it if we are
right.
Elton
--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Odd meteorite.
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
I'd ask for my money back!!! lol You've ruled out mica and that is good. If it
were mica it is immediate proof that this isn't a meteorite. Google up:
specular hematite. See where that takes you.
Had it been magnetic and not so shinny, I would have considered this a possible
separation along
Nice series but they take a few minor liberties with accuracy to explain some
things. Towards the last 20 minutes when the tall, white-haired older scientist
starts talking about the depth of Lake Superior...Well right around the time he
is going to take a submersible down to the floor some
A Caveat is we don't know how many are captured to finally disintegrate, how
many are consumed by the sun, and how many are slung from the solar system via
gravity assist.
On the other hand...18,379,846.7 Angels can dance on the head of a pin but not
all at once. This represents the
Dave Gheesling wrote:
...Meteorites don't enter our atmosphere attached
to spheres, and presumably that artificial contraption may
have made for a different-than-typical result
Dave
www.fallingrocks.com
I totally agree, Dave.
Yet again I am not getting all the original post but in
This is like the problem I have with calling skin, bone, and blood an organ
because it technically meets the definition of organ in that it is an
assemblage of cells that serve a common function.
Speaking of Blood, I am glad I am not the one having to catalog all the sub
categories. I can
I wish I had had you hear last week to explain this to some new friends of
mine,Matthias.
I don't know if anyone recalls this but soon after Peekskill hit there was a
elaborate web page espousing that Peekskill was shot specifically into
Michele's car by aliens to send a message about the
Hello George, List
I believe Carl pointed out that the translated term Bull does not necessarily
mean bovine but could be any male animal. I don't know if ewe included all
female animals and not just a female sheep. So the bull reference could be
referring to the llama.
In blast/overpressure
Chiemgau in Southern Germany contains a 4500yo crater field which was largely
brought to scientific light just this decade and largely investigated by what
we fondly know as amateurs --quiet capable and serious amateurs I might add.
These appears to be a perfect marriage of amateur and
--- On Sun, 3/15/09, geo...@aol.com geo...@aol.com wrote:
I personally don't object to his many ads...he's
got some real bargains there. Now if others would post just as good
bargains, I'd be favorable towards them too. :O)
GeoZay
Caveat Emptor George-- For several sellers there
Hello Darren The original post never made it to my mail box. To the original
posters questions about metal detectors:
One of the points to be made is that a metal detector only detects free metal
not elements. It is a field test and searching for specific elements is a
lab test'
As they
Sorry but these suppositions are hogwash. The evidence says no such thing! The
link, while interesting, is unrelated. Until a second petrology from West is
found, the color of the meteoroid internal matrix was what we see on what was
recovered. Yes we can not prove any pre-entry surface
I an not able to get my email past your filters and am ready to ship.
Elton
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Let me discuss this another way. Carl I believe that you really didn't mean to
say that the color of a space weathered meteoroid's surface is the reason it is
black when it reaches the ground. Ordinary chondrites arrive mostly
blackish/charcoal-gray because of a melted film of magnetite and
I was called out once in a similar case to Landcaster, Pa. Loud explosion,
penetrated window and dashboard etc. Had to get very contorted to search the
dash with all my inspection mirrors and forcepts. Found a fragment in the
bottom of the plemum which was a gray matrix that s looked
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