RE: [uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II

2006-05-03 Thread Joe Andrieu
Brian, Perhaps a Retrieved Date or Access Date would be appropriate for citing online resources. For example at http://www.crlt.umich.edu/publinks/facment_biblio.html you see citations like this: Chief Academic Officers of the Big 12 Universities (2000). Big 12 Faculty Fellowship Program.

[uf-discuss] Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Thibaud Elzière
Hello Everybody, I am new to the list and very interesting in eveything concerning micro-format. I would like to translate some missing parts of the wiki in french but I am unable to create a new account via the admin. It always displays User Name not correct. Do you have any idea about

RE: [uf-discuss] Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Joe Andrieu
Did you look at http://microformats.org/wiki/how-to-play and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username ? -j -- Joe Andrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 (805) 705-8651 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:microformats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibaud Elzière

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II

2006-05-03 Thread Edward Summers
On Apr 29, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Brian Suda wrote: I have spent some time reviewing the examples and the formats on the wiki. Here is the list of the implied schemas. These are the common fields amongst the examples. I then looked at the cross over between the real-world examples and the formats and

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Edward Summers
On May 3, 2006, at 5:29 AM, brush wrote: *new microformat?: hparticipants (multiple hcards plus class=role) -- could be useful in many other circumstances If a role could somehow be assigned to an hCard it would be very useful in the citation microformat for authors, editors,

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation Straw Proposal II

2006-05-03 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On 5/3/06, Joe Andrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a Retrieved Date or Access Date would be appropriate for citing online resources. Yes, it's critical for academic references. I'd vote for accessed. FWIW, this is simply a convention to account for the fact that urls may not be stable.

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On May 3, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Edward Summers wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 5:29 AM, brush wrote: *new microformat?: hparticipants (multiple hcards plus class=role) -- could be useful in many other circumstances If a role could somehow be assigned to an hCard it would be very useful in the

[uf-discuss] role and hCard was: meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Edward Summers
On May 3, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Scott Reynen wrote: Doesn't the ROLE property already serve this purpose? Yes, perfect! I was hoping that someone who knew vCard better than me could provide a pointer. /me annotates the citation-brainstorming page with the info //Ed

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
Welcome brush! As someone who has typed up (and published) *numerous) meeting minutes himself, I certainly recognize that this could be a useful microformat. Regarding creating a new microformat, please read the following pages thoroughly: http://microformats.org/wiki/process

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/3/06 5:29 AM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 6:31 AM, Edward Summers wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 5:29 AM, brush wrote: *new microformat?: hparticipants (multiple hcards plus class=role) -- could be useful in many other circumstances If a role could somehow

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/3/06 4:37 AM, Rémi Prévost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thibaud Elzière wrote: Hello Everybody, I am new to the list and very interesting in eveything concerning micro-format. I would like to translate some missing parts of the wiki in french but I am unable to create a new account via

Re: Language Maps [was RE: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML]

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/2/06 12:33 AM, Joe Andrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea of mapping between languages however is not as crazy or hard as some of you think. Joe, that may be, but figuring out and documenting mappings between natural languages is a linguistics research topic far outside the focus of

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread brush
thanks, tantek and others. i will go ahead and start the wiki process with some of the research i've done already, and will invite you to join me! one thought about role: is it appropriate to re-engineer the category from what is apparently originally intended as a relatively static feature (ie.

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On May 3, 2006, at 1:43 PM, brush wrote: one thought about role: is it appropriate to re-engineer the category from what is apparently originally intended as a relatively static feature (ie. sales engineer for a person or green construction for an organization) to something relevant only in

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/3/06 11:43 AM, brush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, tantek and others. i will go ahead and start the wiki process with some of the research i've done already, and will invite you to join me! one thought about role: is it appropriate to re-engineer the category from what is

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/3/06 12:19 PM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 1:43 PM, brush wrote: one thought about role: is it appropriate to re-engineer the category from what is apparently originally intended as a relatively static feature (ie. sales engineer for a person or green

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Rémi Prévost
Chris Messina wrote: Two things: Can we add the how to play link to the signup/login page? Should we have a url scheme for localized pages? Perhaps a wishlist for prioritizing which pages should be done first? Chris The current localized url scheme is pagename + -lang. But I think we

[uf-discuss] Re: meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Messina
Might be worth considering any format that captures historical data... Ie who did/said what.I remember someone talking about movie scripts having a specific format with semantics... That was being referenced in the chat transcript discussion. I mean, the framework of what we're talking about is

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Ryan King
On May 3, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Chris Messina wrote: Two things: Can we add the how to play link to the signup/login page? Can we? I dunno. May we? Sure. Anyone know how to edit that page, or do I need to dig into the MediaWiki source and hack it (again)? -ryan

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Ryan King
On May 3, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Thibaud Elzière wrote: Hello, The url scheme for localized page seems to be : title-language were language is the 2 characters language code . It is used for the Spanish translation however -sp is used whereas -es would have been better according to me.

[uf-discuss] Master Foo on microformats

2006-05-03 Thread Ryan King
In case you hadn't seen this http://open.itworld.com/4934/ nls_ebiz_mastfoo060502/page_1.html , I just blogged about it here http://microformats.org/blog/2006/05/03/master-foos-taxation-theory- of-microformats/ . Discuss. :D -ryan ___

[uf-discuss] rel-tag ... or something more?

2006-05-03 Thread Angus McIntyre
I'm currently maintaining a blog about wine for a non-computer-savvy relative: http://www.lovatstephen.com/ The blog postings - not yet using hAtom, but I hope to get that - contain references to particular wines, grapes, winemakers, countries and wine-growing regions. Ultimately, I'd like to

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread brush
thanks, again, all of you. On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:37:23PM -0700, Chris Messina wrote: I mean, the framework of what we're talking about is people having conversations with one or more speakers. in this application of that framework, there are decisions, key points, decision points,

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Messina
On 5/3/06, brush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this does bring us back to question of how to describe a group of people and the relationships among them, within a specific context. if it's a list of hcards with the role class used to distinguish their relation to the parent class (eg. facilitator

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/3/06 1:19 PM, Thibaud Elzière [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The url scheme for localized page seems to be : title-language were language is the 2 characters language code. Correct. It is used for the Spanish translation however -sp is used whereas -es would have been better

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Chris Messina
On 5/3/06, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 3, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Thibaud Elzière wrote: Hello, The url scheme for localized page seems to be : title-language were language is the 2 characters language code . It is used for the Spanish translation however -sp is used whereas -es

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Wiki

2006-05-03 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/3/06 6:06 PM, Rémi Prévost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I understand. I have another question related to multi-lingual content. For example, there's a naming convention that says XMDP profile pages for microformat specs should be named with the name of the spec, followed by -profile. But

Re: [uf-discuss] meeting minutes: microformats needed?

2006-05-03 Thread brush
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 08:10:29AM -0700, Tantek ?elik wrote: Then, start the respective examples page: http://microformats.org/wiki/meeting-minutes-examples and let folks on the list know that you have done so, and invite others to help document and analyze the examples. well, everyone,