Re: [uf-discuss] rel="license" and copyright

Hello Andy, On 11/17/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm starting to look at using rel="license". Am I right in thing that it can be used to indicate that a page is NOT available under a license, as well as for those that are? For instance: This page is http://www.example.c

[uf-discuss] rel="license" and copyright

I'm starting to look at using rel="license". Am I right in thing that it can be used to indicate that a page is NOT available under a license, as well as for those that are? For instance: This page is http://www.example.com/copyright>copyright Example Ltd. 2006 and may not be repr

[uf-discuss] rel="license" and citation

hReview can use rel="license" to show that the license, not the page itself, is available under a certain license. Why not do the page for citations, so that I can cite, say, a Wordsworth poem, and indicate that the poem, but not my page, is public domain? -- Andy Mabbett Say "N

[uf-discuss] RE: QnA microformat(s)

Hi-- I can't seem to find any information about "question and answer" microformats on microformats.org. Insofar as I'm new to this list, has there been any backchannel discussion about distributed Q&A systems and a microformat or microformats to support them? Many Thanks, Korby Parnell Product

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

David Janes wrote: > I'm not sure if I'm that excited :-) but I definitely think there's a > gap that can be filled (i.e. that hReview/hListing identify people > directly but only things indirectly). It's possible, but this is very > speculative, that this could simplify the path for creating new >

Re: [uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

In Canada, and I suspect many other places in the world, links to documents and pages in other languages is relatively common. One can also image that links to English language pages and documents from non-English language pages is common, due to the preponderance of English language documents on

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> What I was getting at was that the typical wine consumer and the >>> content providers catering to wine consumers are less interested in the >>> scientific classification of a particular grape or yeast and more >>> intereste

Re: [uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

id="link" was just left over from the original example. On 11/17/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >id="link" Why ID? Why not class? >hreflang="en" >type="application/pdf" I wonder how widely used those two are,

Re: [uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> type="application/pdf" >> I wonder how widely used those >> are, in real life? >@type is increasingly used and useful though. Auto-discovery >mechanisms use type="application/rss+xml" and "application/atom+xml" >to recognis

Re: [uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

On 17 Nov 2006, at 18:45, Andy Mabbett wrote: hreflang="en" type="application/pdf" I wonder how widely used those two are, in real life? I'd suggest that hreflang is close to minimal, not least because there's an assumed (though probably not specified) implication that link targets are goi

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly works for parts of the wine industry. Thank you - but which parts of the wine industry uses grapes and yeast which are (or were

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly >>>works >>> for parts of the wine industry. >>> >> Thank you - but which parts of the wine industry uses grapes and >>yeast >> which are (or were) not living t

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Skiff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >To look at a real world example, FreshDirect sells both single items >and bulk cases. > >They're each treated as a single row in their product database, >without worrying about nesting 12 individual cans of soup in the >"case"

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Andy Mabbett wrote: It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microformat. Say: Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

On 11/17/06, Eric Skiff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think that the work you're doing right now on hItem could be some of the most important microformat work yet. I'm sure you've already made the connection I just came to, but here's why I'm excited. I'm not sure if I'm that excited :-) but I d

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

If I mark up the apartment block with all of its aforesaid components, in a nested manner, and apply a height, does it apply to the block, or the brick? In the immortal words of Bill & Ted: "Whoa." Aside from the philosophical implications of marking up any "thing" as a hItem or even a tree of

[uf-discuss] Re: Exporting Hcard data

Thanks - that makes sense to me now. My last question is when I import one of the cards into my Thunderbird address book, the name comes in like this: Michelle=C2=A0Tarby I've tried both using   and   and both give the same result. Is it a Thunderbird issue, or is my hCard formatting off?

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

My intention is to stick to (1) analyzing existing behavior/use on the web and (2) using the 80/20 rule. I think we'll be fine. If compositing objects becomes an issue (for example, describing an Audi with 4 Pirelli tires) then we'll hash it out. Regards, etc... On 11/17/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL

Re: [uf-discuss] hRewiew and blockquote check

On 11/17/06, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 17, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Frances Berriman wrote: > Is this allowed (it is picked up by tails, but is it correct)? (using > cite inside a blockquote so that it can be associated as the source of > the quote and the reviewer of the hReview - or

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard real world application

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Freecall numbers > >vCard has no such categories, so there's currently no way to say this >in hcard. As I noted recently, on the "hcard-issues" page: : The "type"

Re: [uf-discuss] hRewiew and blockquote check

On Nov 17, 2006, at 6:27 AM, Frances Berriman wrote: Is this allowed (it is picked up by tails, but is it correct)? (using cite inside a blockquote so that it can be associated as the source of the quote and the reviewer of the hReview - or should I have the class="hreview" on a div exterior to

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frances Berriman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard and "ATTN" text?

On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: MyCompany Inc., ATTN: Joe Blow, 123 Somewhere Ave W Vancouver BC WWW111 Now, I'm not sure what to do with the "ATTN: Joe Blow". You can use 'extended-address'. -ryan ___

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard - Telephone types (cell, office etc)

On Nov 14, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Frances Berriman wrote: On 11/14/06, Ciaran McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/14/06, Ciaran McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Office Sorry, Mobile makes more sense. Does that work? I can't think of a wild example with that in to test (and I'm walking

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard real world application

On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Gary Barber wrote: I have been slowly implementing microformats across our clients sites. However I have noted a number of instances within a few addresses that just don't seem to fit in microformats. *Case 1* Reply Paid Addresses How about class="extended

RE: [uf-discuss] Exporting Hcard data

Michelle, They are part of the transformation done by x2v and are part of the vcard spec. If you run one of the sample cards through you will see they are there as well Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michelle Tarby Sent: Fr

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy Mabbett wrote: >> It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, >> indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microformat. Say: > >Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly works >for parts o

Re: [uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >id="link" Why ID? Why not class? >hreflang="en" >type="application/pdf" I wonder how widely used those two are, in real life? -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards:

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Skiff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >hItem is a bit vague on purpose to make it flexible, but in general, i >think it will be most useful for describing physical goods. Consider these two examples. A bottle of wine is an item. So is the case of 12 bottle

Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> the total number of pages in a cited article, book-chapter, or >> other section of a publication >Whether I paraphrase a section on page 4 of Brian's _Using >Microformats_ book, or get a direct quote from

Re: hCite Transformations Test (was Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress)

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >For some reason, when I do a transformation, I get the author name for >both TITLE and AUTHOR when I put the author first in the markup, like >so: > > > > Roy Rosenzweig >

Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruce D'Arcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On 11/16/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In message >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ross >> Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >> >If you can't grab total number of pages, does your plan of absolute >> >bird book ag

[uf-discuss] Exporting Hcard data

Thanks - I didn't think it did, but this is my first attempt at this, so I figured it was better to learn the correct way to do it! Here's what my vCard looks like when I am done - I don't understand where the commas or the CHARSET declaration are coming from: BEGIN:VCARD PRODID:-//suda.co.uk

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Exporting Hcard data

On 11/17/06, Michelle Tarby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, I'm making progress - I wasn't passing any kind of ID, so that's why X2V would just spin away. What I have noticed is that it looks like the vCard that's generated adds a bunch of extra commas, so I'm guessing I don't have my page form

[uf-discuss] Re: Exporting Hcard data

OK, I'm making progress - I wasn't passing any kind of ID, so that's why X2V would just spin away. What I have noticed is that it looks like the vCard that's generated adds a bunch of extra commas, so I'm guessing I don't have my page formatted correctly. <%=rs("LastName") %> <%=rs("FirstNam

Re: [uf-discuss] hThing microformat ... or design pattern

---sorry if this gets posted a few times, i got some bouncebacks because I didn't send in plaintext--- Hi everyone, I'm a little new here, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt, but I definitely just had an "oh my god" moment about this. I think that the work you're doing right now on h

Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress

On Nov 17, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: I'm going to challenge you here, Andy, because this is yet another time (e.g. not the first) when I think you're stepping over the line. You're being hostile, and I don't think it's appropriate for productive discussion. I agree. Peace, Scott

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Andy Mabbett wrote: > It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, > indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microformat. Say: Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly works for parts of the wine industry. However, at this point at least, we're more interested

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What cross posting? Are you trying to say it's inappropropriate to bring up a prior discussion when it is relevant to the current discussion? I didn't really mean what you said. The prior part you quoted regarding splitting the mailing lis

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Frances Berriman wrote: >> On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Andy Mabbett wrote: >> > >> > >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> > >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists have >> > >> told me in e-mail tha

[uf-discuss] hRewiew and blockquote check

Is this allowed (it is picked up by tails, but is it correct)? (using cite inside a blockquote so that it can be associated as the source of the quote and the reviewer of the hReview - or should I have the class="hreview" on a div exterior to the blockquote and also the cite after the ?): We h

Re: hCite Transformations Test (was Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress)

Thanks for that, we are certainly going to need many, many test cases. Once our HG system is back-up and working, i will be compiling lots of examples, so please do keep coding-up some examples. On 11/17/06, Jeremy Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For some reason, when I do a transformation, I g

Re: [uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

Fully exploit HTML [1] first, I think. Something like this: http://..."; id="link" hreflang="en" type="application/pdf" title="PDF Document Title">Document (PDF, 2 pages, 145KB) Beyond that, there may be overlap with media [2] Regards, etc... [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/links.ht

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Now called "item-brainstorming" (non-plural). We need more content in "item-examples" first though please [1], if anyone wants add even a little content. Regards, etc... David [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/item-examples On 11/17/06, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sam Sethi wrote: > I

Re: [uf-discuss] hCite progress

On 11/16/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ross Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >If you can't grab total number of pages, does your plan of absolute >bird book aggregation fail miserably? I'm not sure what you think can be achieved by such an asinine

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Sam Sethi wrote: > I own a wine importing company and have like you thought > about a wine microformat for sometime. I have done a little > bit of work on this. Maybe we could combine out thoughts and > submit a new microformat for review to this list? > > Producer: hcard > Location: geo > >

[uf-discuss] Contextual link information using microformats

Hi - does anyone know of a microformat for presenting contextual link information? I want to provide information on document formats like PDF in a standard way which is useful for everyone (e.g. link PDF, 500KB). How can I use that extra span to repurpose the link using microformats? Here i

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists have >> told me in e-mail that they would be interested in the species >>

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

Ho do I post to this forum? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Schinkel Sent: 17 November 2006 05:49 To: 'Microformats Discuss' Subject: RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine Andy Mabbett wrote: >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lis