Re: [uf-discuss] Hidden metadata no microformats

2007-07-02 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
to do bad things with it, we're just not giving you the opportunity, full stop). P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr and accessibility - a work around.

2007-06-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
, incidentally, also doesn't really like to read things like -MM-DDThh:mm:ss.sTZD) doesn't, and is far better served with functional buttons/links or Operator-like tools. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr and accessibility - a work around.

2007-06-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
and good web design, I'd say... -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr and accessibility - a work around.

2007-06-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
machine tags link...and rightly so, as people who are not into code geekery, geocaching, or some other niche pursuit that will require them access to the actual raw lat/long data, will more likely want to see something like the map display. P -- Patrick H. Lauke

[uf-discuss] weird page problems?

2007-06-11 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
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Re: [uf-discuss] RFC: sHTML Video Thumbnailing

2007-05-27 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
for http://example.com/video; rather than the img is the thumbnail for So yes, it's a slight misuse (or a case of stretching the semantics, if you will) of rev, I'd say. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned

Re: [uf-discuss] W3HTML WG, HTML5, semantics, and so on

2007-05-14 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
? I don't think so. This fails to solve a specific problem (solves a general problem that I'm not sure we need to solve). It also encourages hiding data, which is Not a Good Thing(tm). How would that encourage more hiding data than the current use of title? P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [uf-discuss] a[name] as machine data?

2007-05-13 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
for instance. URI schemes cannot be quickly and easily registered. 3. This puts those links in the tab cycle for keyboard users, and on a page listing lots of events it would turn into tabbing hell. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux

Re: [uf-discuss] In-the-wild datetimes for screenreader testing

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Andy Mabbett wrote: I would be foolish in the extreme for anyone to dismiss your results on those grounds. ...they'll just label them as strawman examples... P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used

Re: [uf-discuss] Regarding POSH and misuse of the microformats logo

2007-05-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
with unknown origins thrown around isn't necessarily going to make them learn any more! Also, from a marketing perspective, I'd posit that plain and old are probably not the best terms to sex up and sell the idea. P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [uf-discuss] human readable date parsing

2007-05-04 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
here, but: publishers don't need to know all variations in all languages, just the version in the language they're authoring, no? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux

Re: [uf-discuss] human readable date parsing

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com

Re: [uf-discuss] Expanding the abbr pattern

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
: it ain't ISO-anything). P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com

Re: [uf-discuss] Expanding the abbr pattern

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: However, using 8601 in an abbr title and your house style in the abbr content should work just fine, right? Yes, of course. Just wanted to add the concept that, as authors, sometimes the content part of pages isn't fully up to us either :) P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [uf-discuss] human readable date parsing

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
or not. After all, isn't that what microformats are there for? Being consumed by machines that can make something useful with them? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re

Re: [uf-discuss] human readable date parsing

2007-05-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
with. But to bring it back to the original argument, the routine extraction does not necessarily have to equate to data visible in, say, a tooltip. The routine extraction may well be mediated via some machine interpretation. P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [uf-discuss] human readable date parsing

2007-05-02 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
-title There's a may here as well, but the generic definition for title (which could then be used on something like a span) seems far more lax to me, and in that respect more suited to be plied/bent for microformat data use. IMHO, of course. P -- Patrick H. Lauke

[uf-discuss] hyperlink include-pattern - keyboard issue

2007-05-01 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
it completely. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com

Re: [uf-discuss] hyperlink include-pattern - keyboard issue

2007-05-01 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
screen reader who just happen to use a keyboard (or equivalent), rather than a mouse, for navigation, in some of the major current browsers. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
that it appears to be more of a bug in JAWS due to the use of sIFR (which causes JAWS to sometimes read titles, and sometimes not)...but he'll be testing this further to come to some hard evidence on that. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj

Re: [uf-discuss] proposed title-design-pattern is not backwards compatible, too big of a change

2007-04-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
stretched to fit the abbr-pattern, in my (and some other members' and non-members') opinion, anyway. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
...I understand this whole burden of proof thing is on us, but still...) P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-28 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
a little bit of pain on end users in a move to force UA vendors to change their behaviour to ease that pain? Or am I misreading that part? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-28 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
many accessibility hooks and benefits built right into (X)HTML itself, opting for flaky heuristics instead) to support this fringe group's interpretation of what an ABBR is, and what the TITLE attribute stands for? Forgive me, but this smacks just a bit of arrogance... P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-28 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
it, yes. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else feels as strongly as I do that the title-design-pattern is something that should codified as soon as possible. I'd raise my hand, but you guessed that already, didn't you? P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [uf-discuss] proposed title-design-pattern is not backwards compatible, too big of a change

2007-04-28 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
it as an error if abbr is used for anything other than the restricted use scenario)? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk