Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom question

2008-03-10 Thread David Janes
There's two different levels of abstraction in the hAtom spec: - the logical model, which maps on to the Atom spec - the physical model, which is the class names etc. Not everything in the logical model has to be present in the physical model (i.e. your hAtom markup). Why? Because we have

[uf-discuss] hAtom question

2008-03-10 Thread Michael Smethurst
Morning The schema section of the hAtom spec [1] says: author. required using hCard. [*] But the entry author section [2] says: an Entry SHOULD have at least one Entry Author element Should this be a MUST? Also in a blog post [3] David Janes suggests that hAtom 0.2 may drop the author and

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom question

2008-03-10 Thread David Janes
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/08 10:20, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - I'll be doing the hAtom 0.2 stuff Real Soon Now ;-) - you can safely assume that the requirement for having the Author element is going to disappear;

[uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Michael Smethurst
Just a quick question to ask whether hatom requires an updated? http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Schema says it is http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Updated Says it's a should and parsers will fall back to published date ?!? http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments)

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/09/2007, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question to ask whether hatom requires an updated? http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Schema says it is http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Updated Says it's a should and parsers will fall back to published date

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/09/2007, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2007, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question to ask whether hatom requires an updated? http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Schema says it is http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Updated

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Michael Smethurst
On 10/9/07 15:42, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2007, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question to ask whether hatom requires an updated? http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Schema says it is http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Updated

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread David Janes
On 9/10/07, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Frances mentions, most people just use updated, but if your underlying CMS knows the difference between the publish date and the updated date and you want to expose this information, you'd be best to use both. Whoops, Frances said

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread David Janes
On 9/10/07, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2007, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/09/2007, Michael Smethurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick question to ask whether hatom requires an updated? http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Schema says

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/09/2007, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/10/07, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Frances mentions, most people just use updated, but if your underlying CMS knows the difference between the publish date and the updated date and you want to expose this information,

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread David Janes
On 9/10/07, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aye - it's that slip of the tongue which seems all too common when discussing posting dates that causes the confusion, in my opinion. Published and updated tend to be rather interchangeable terms for authors. As for the inconsistency -

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Frances Berriman
On 10/09/2007, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/10/07, Frances Berriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aye - it's that slip of the tongue which seems all too common when discussing posting dates that causes the confusion, in my opinion. Published and updated tend to be rather

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread Scott Reynen
On Sep 10, 2007, at 10:39 AM, David Janes wrote: The first suggests a must and the second a should. It's just a bit confusing, so any help to iron that out would be fabulous. :) See the last line of that section [1]; I think this will resolve the issue for you. As at least two people

Re: [uf-discuss] Hatom question

2007-09-10 Thread David Janes
On 9/10/07, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 10, 2007, at 10:39 AM, David Janes wrote: The first suggests a must and the second a should. It's just a bit confusing, so any help to iron that out would be fabulous. :) See the last line of that section [1]; I think this will