[uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread Stephanie Booth (bunny)
Given all this, does anybody have an idea why this wasn't implemented in things like Sandbox, and how to encourage the theme authors to do it in the next version? Steph -- http://climbtothestars.org/ ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread David Janes
Right -- and a uF for expressing that relationship; this gets a little trickier. As uFs are about codifying existing practices, my (superficial) look at comment nesting shows that many sites (like slashdot) using nesting to express relationships, not explicit URI linking. On the other hand,

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
I think that if using hAtom for comments is going to become 'standard' that we definately need to use class=comments (or something similar) to identify the nested comments feeds inside the main hfeed. Also, comments don't really have a 'title'... you could use the original post title (rarely

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread Stephanie Booth (bunny)
would the feeds be nested? I think that in the example I saw, there were two feeds. One with only the blog post, and a separate one with the comments. Is it permitted by hAtom to nest feeds? I thought it wasn't. Steph On 9/12/06, Stephen Paul Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that if

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
Comments are (almost) always right after a post... so yes, the comment feeds would have to be nested, unless the existed only on item pages. Having all the data avaliable at once has proved very useful in my previous applications of related technology (XOXO-based encoding as seen on

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread David Janes
Comments are nested within entries and hfeed elements can be nested too. Typically, one doesn't see multiple entries with comments on the same page. In usage that I've seen, one would probably use this nesting structure: * hfeed (for the blog, optional) ** hentry (for the one entry on the page)

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-12 Thread Stephanie Booth (bunny)
On 9/12/06, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments are nested within entries and hfeed elements can be nested too. Typically, one doesn't see multiple entries with comments on the same page. it can be found in the wild, though. A very famous french-language blog, for example:

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
I don't think it makes much sense... I use a 'standard' XOXO markup on comments... On 9/11/06, Stephanie Booth (bunny) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back somebody showed me a blog marked up with hatom. That person used hatom on the comments too (on the single post page) -- that meant two

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread David Janes
Why wouldn't it make sense? Comments are structured much the same way blog posts are. My personal rule of thumb is things that you'd make an Atom feed for -- and comments certainly fall under this category -- should be worth considering for hAtom if there's a clear HTML representation. What

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread Ben Ward
On 11 Sep 2006, at 23:17, Stephanie Booth (bunny) wrote: Does this way of using hatom on comments make sense to you? It does to me, yes. Although not using two separate hAtom feeds. I'd just have one with the original post as the first entry in the feed and comments following on

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread David Janes
On 9/11/06, Ben Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Sep 2006, at 23:17, Stephanie Booth (bunny) wrote: Does this way of using hatom on comments make sense to you? It does to me, yes. Although not using two separate hAtom feeds. I'd just have one with the original post as the first entry in the

Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread Karl Dubost
Hi Steph, Le 12 sept. 06 à 07:17, Stephanie Booth (bunny) a écrit : A while back somebody showed me a blog marked up with hatom. That person used hatom on the comments too (on the single post page) -- that meant two hfeeds: one containing only the post, and another one with the comments. Does

Re: Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread Chris Messina
How would you handle nested comments like in Digg for example? Just curious how that fits into the model -- I suppose it would map to what you described? Chris On 9/11/06, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steph, Le 12 sept. 06 à 07:17, Stephanie Booth (bunny) a écrit : A while back

RE: Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense?

2006-09-11 Thread Eran
] [mailto:microformats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Messina Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 10:14 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: Re: [uf-discuss] does hatom for comments make sense? How would you handle nested comments like in Digg for example? Just curious how that fits