Re: DST oddity in Australia/NSW timezone

2006-03-23 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:28:34 +1100, Steffen Kluge wrote: I just noticed that a fresh 3.8 install doesn't contain the DST exception that has been declared for Australia (NSW and ACT) this year, And don't leave Tassie of the map! apparently to accommodate the Commonwealth Games. So don't leave

Re: DST oddity in Australia/NSW timezone

2006-03-23 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:28:34 +1100, Steffen Kluge wrote: I just noticed that a fresh 3.8 install doesn't contain the DST exception that has been declared for Australia (NSW and ACT) this year, And don't leave Tassie of the map! apparently to

kernel panic

2006-03-23 Thread Joe Advisor
I have several machines that periodically kernel panic. Many times, the kernel panics at boot... as rc is running, it will panic. Occassionally, the machines will make it past boot, but then randomly panic after several hours of normal operation. Here is the message that appears on the

Sendmail security problem

2006-03-23 Thread Alexey E. Suslikov
Raul Aldaz wrote: Any comment about this? (see sendmail.org). All I know, sendmail.org says I can not patch versions below 8.13.5: If you cannot upgrade to 8.13.6, then you can apply a patch to 8.13.5, or a patch for 8.12.11. Note: these patches do not apply cleanly to older versions;

OpenBSD resellers

2006-03-23 Thread Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu
Hi all. Are there any OpenBSD resellers in Africa? If not, how must interest would there be if someone were to start one? How many of you would order your Disc from an African reseller? Any other African users here? Marius Van Deventer Computer Technician Bytes Technology Group - Systems

OpenBGPd success question

2006-03-23 Thread Marcel Prisi
Hi all, A little success story : we just setup an OpenBSD-flashdist / OpenBGPd router-on-a-flash for a small AS with great success. Thank you guys ! Just a little question : I would like to set local preference depending on the total length of the AS-path. Sth like : (pseudo config) ip

Re: certpatch on obsd 3.8

2006-03-23 Thread Hans-Joerg Hoexer
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:30:40PM +0100, Lukas Drbohlav wrote: with this in x509v3.cnf # default settings CERTUFQDN = what i have to give there ??!! the UFQDN, eg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please take a look at isakmpd(8), where this is explained using FQDN. UFQDN is similar.

Re: Sporadic kernel panic booting old i386 hardware, 3.7 GENERIC

2006-03-23 Thread mickey
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:31:38AM +1030, Damon McMahon wrote: Greetings, re For the second time in a week the following kernel panic has occured on boot. In between these two events the firewall has booted many times without issue. booting hd0a:/bsd: 4686336+945680

Re: DST oddity in Australia/NSW timezone

2006-03-23 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:30:44 +0100 (CET), Otto Moerbeek wrote: Nobody replied. Well, maybe not, but the tz data was fixed. 3.9 Has the correct data. Don't think I didn't notice, thanks guys. Back when I did the file it wasn't generally known by those who needed it that it was needed. Lots on

Re: DST oddity in Australia/NSW timezone

2006-03-23 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:14:28 +1100, Steffen Kluge wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 19:23 +1100, Rod.. Whitworth wrote: Proper handling of DST can be checked by running zdump -v -c 2007 Australia/NSW. or Sydney or Melbourne, Canberra, Hobart, Victoria, Tasmania, Adelaide, South or whatever you

Re: OpenBGPd success question

2006-03-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Marcel Prisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-23 11:01]: A little success story : we just setup an OpenBSD-flashdist / OpenBGPd router-on-a-flash for a small AS with great success. wonderful! care to write us a little testionial for www.openbgpd.org/users.html? :) Just a little question : I

Re: Sendmail security problem

2006-03-23 Thread Anthony Howe
Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: Raul Aldaz wrote: Any comment about this? (see sendmail.org). So fix is currently unknown for 3.8-stable with 8.13.4. Looks like we need to wait millert@'s work for stable branches... One way to fix 3.8-stable is to pull in 8.13.6 entirely but anyway it needs

Re: kernel panic

2006-03-23 Thread Nick Holland
Joe Advisor wrote: ... Can anybody provide any insight for me as to what I might be doing wrong? I am not sure where to be even begin to debug. Thanks in advance. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq2.html#Bugs Nick.

Re: OpenBGPd success question

2006-03-23 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:54:18AM +0100, Marcel Prisi wrote: Hi all, A little success story : we just setup an OpenBSD-flashdist / OpenBGPd router-on-a-flash for a small AS with great success. Thank you guys ! Just a little question : I would like to set local preference depending

Re: Stability of bge on 3.8 SMP

2006-03-23 Thread Daniel Hamlin
Daniel Hamlin wrote: I have a server acting as a router/firewall (dmesg below) that stopped passing traffic on one network card after being up for ~4 months. The card was unpingable, and I believe the console said watchdog timeout. Since the connection was down, I didn't take the time to

Broadcom BCM5701 NICs: Only ICMP, no TCP/UDP?

2006-03-23 Thread Alexander Neumann
Hi, I tried to install OpenBSD 3.8 on a box with two Gigabit 3Com cards with Broadcom BCM5701 chipset. I set up networking, configured the ip address, set the default route, put the nameserver into the resolv.conf file. Pinging the nameserver works, resolving dns names and doing anything over tcp

BGP attributes and OpenBGPD

2006-03-23 Thread Anderson Nadal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. In OpenBGPD is possible to send bgp attributes like MED to neighbor? Thanks []'s Nadal - -- +---+ | Anderson Nadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] - RHCE | |Coordenador

Privilege separation privilege revocation

2006-03-23 Thread João Salvatti
Hi all, I've tried to find any definition on the Internet before but I really couldn't find a paper or anything that could clear up my doubts. If anyone here could help me I'd be very thankful. The questions are the following: 1. What is privilege separation? 2. What is privilege revocation? 3.

Re: BGP attributes and OpenBGPD

2006-03-23 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:15:50AM -0300, Anderson Nadal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello. In OpenBGPD is possible to send bgp attributes like MED to neighbor? The MED you set is redistributed to your neighbors. OpenBGPD behaves as it is described in the RFC.

Re: BGP attributes and OpenBGPD

2006-03-23 Thread Henning Brauer
* Anderson Nadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-03-23 14:25]: In OpenBGPD is possible to send bgp attributes like MED to neighbor? sure. -- BS Web Services, http://www.bsws.de/ OpenBSD-based Webhosting, Mail Services, Managed Servers, ... Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the

Re: no internet with cable provider (videotron.ca)

2006-03-23 Thread Steven Schneider
* Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060320 23:00]: Hi everyone. I am troubleshooting a client (running OpenBSD 3.8) who cannot connect to a Canadian cable provider (videotron.ca) with dhclient. dhclient cannot find a dhcp server. Is there anything special one needs to do besides 'dhclient int'? The

Re: OpenBGPd success question

2006-03-23 Thread Marcel Prisi
Claudio Jeker a icrit : This is not possible in OpenBGPD. I'm not even sure why we should add something like that. Could you please tell me why you need to change localpref depending on the path length? The BGP decision process checks this: 1) nexthop state (reachable or not) 2) localpref 3) as

openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread frantisek holop
just before i order my 3.9: this is what i feel sometimes, and i think sometimes more of you do. people who read misc@ for years might identify the following (for me disturbing) trend: twice a year (or maybe more) when it comes to money issues, Theo and the devs ask for donations, cd

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:09:08PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: [...] Now can EVERBODY please submit their personal feelings and put oil into this starting FLAMEWAR. Oh and please add a THEOFLAMEWAR string to the subject, so that i can easily set up maildrop rules... Thanks! Tobias

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Maxim Bourmistrov
This is what I see: Community - [EMAIL PROTECTED] and as far as I can remember non of devs has ever told me what I'm nobody. On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:09, frantisek holop wrote: just before i order my 3.9: this is what i feel sometimes, and i think sometimes more of you do. people

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Craig Skinner
frantisek holop wrote: except when it comes to money. well, well. then suddenly we ARE a community, we are NEEDED and should feel as one, so we can join powers and walk off into the setting sun. it is this hypocracy i hate the most (just as much as Theo does too -- that is why i love

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Pedro Martelletto
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:09:08PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: if you don't have cvs commit, you are a nobody that's what misc@ will teach any newcomer using iron and fire. i try to be part of a community but the devs say you are nobody and should be glad that you can use this stuff. It's

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:49:49AM -0300, Pedro Martelletto said that On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:09:08PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: if you don't have cvs commit, you are a nobody that's what misc@ will teach any newcomer using iron and fire. i try to be part of a community but the

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Pedro Martelletto
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 04:03:58PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: i never did try to present this as absolute truth, all the mail is my personal opinion. Okay, thanks for clarifying that. -p.

SGI O2 R12000

2006-03-23 Thread Bachman Kharazmi
Anyone who know what those two lines should look like if I created {a b d e g h} partitions during the installation process (the whole disk is used for openbsd). SystemPartition=... OSLoadPartition=... It's a IBM 9GB SCSI disk in the slot next to the last one (seen from back in right direction).

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Robert C Wittig
Hello frantisek, Thursday, March 23, 2006, 8:09:08 AM, you wrote: fh this is what i feel sometimes, and i think sometimes more of you do. fh unfortunately there is no real community around openbsd. at least fh i dont see one -- one where there are people without cvs commit. fh if you don't have

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 3/23/06, frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i never did try to present this as absolute truth, all the mail is my personal opinion. just shutup and donate already! -K

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Craig
My oh my, that is an ill-informed rant, isn't it? Feel better now? I'm not going to a bloat out the list by explaining to your bruised ego, how you are wrong and have the wrong outlook in all of this. Go figure it out for yourself. -- Best regards, Craig http://slashboot.org/ Support

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread steve szmidt
On Thursday 23 March 2006 09:36, you wrote: This is what I see: Community - [EMAIL PROTECTED] and as far as I can remember non of devs has ever told me what I'm nobody. Good for you. On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:09, frantisek holop wrote: just before i order my 3.9: this is what i

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Fergus Wilde
On Thursday 23 March 2006 14:09, frantisek holop wrote: just before i order my 3.9: this is what i feel sometimes, and i think sometimes more of you do. people who read misc@ for years might identify the following (for me disturbing) trend: twice a year (or maybe more) when it comes to

Re: Sendmail security problem

2006-03-23 Thread Claus Assmann
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: All I know, sendmail.org says I can not patch versions below 8.13.5: That's wrong. See the 8.13.6 note: and 8.12 are availabe at our FTP site. However, note that those patches do not (cleanly) apply to versions other than 8.13.5 and

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
I would really appreciate if you guys could stop responding to this thread.

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Roger Neth Jr
On 3/23/06, Fergus Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 14:09, frantisek holop wrote: just before i order my 3.9: this is what i feel sometimes, and i think sometimes more of you do. people who read misc@ for years might identify the following (for me

Re: anoncvs + OPENBSD_3_9_BASE

2006-03-23 Thread Bob Bostwick \(Lists\)
Is that why /snapshots/packages/i386/ is not available? I'm probably going to get yelled at for asking this, but I really don't know the answer. I just upgraded to -current, if I can't use /snapshots/packages/i386/ for installing packages, where should I install from? Yes I ordered a 3.9 CD,

Re: BGP attributes and OpenBGPD

2006-03-23 Thread Anderson Nadal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok! But, how to? :) It's my bgpd.conf. Just set metric ? group peering { remote-as 1234 neighbor $peer1 { descr MAIN announce all local-address $local1 depend on

soekris

2006-03-23 Thread Gustavo Rios
Does anybody have a soekris box and would like to give a shell account for some testing? I am considering to buy one for me, but i would like, previously, to be able to feel what it is like. Thanks. PS: Of course, i expect it to run openbsd.

Re: anoncvs + OPENBSD_3_9_BASE

2006-03-23 Thread Jason Crawford
On 3/23/06, Bob Bostwick (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that why /snapshots/packages/i386/ is not available? I'm probably going to get yelled at for asking this, but I really don't know the answer. I just upgraded to -current, if I can't use /snapshots/packages/i386/ for installing

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread MG
frantisek holop wrote: unfortunately there is no real community around openbsd. at least i dont see one -- one where there are people without cvs commit. if you don't have cvs commit, you are a nobody that's what misc@ will teach any newcomer using iron and fire. i try to be part of a community

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... if there's any up-to-date published information, plz. let me know... best regards! ps: sorry guys, i couldn't 'stand it ;_)

Re: Privilege separation privilege revocation

2006-03-23 Thread MG
http://www.openbsd.org/papers/auug04/index.html MikeG Joco Salvatti wrote: Hi all, I've tried to find any definition on the Internet before but I really couldn't find a paper or anything that could clear up my doubts. If anyone here could help me I'd be very thankful. The questions are the

Re: BGP attributes and OpenBGPD

2006-03-23 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:58:07PM -0300, Anderson Nadal wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ok! But, how to? :) It's my bgpd.conf. Just set metric ? Yep. group peering { remote-as 1234 neighbor $peer1 { descr MAIN

Re: anoncvs + OPENBSD_3_9_BASE

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Is that why /snapshots/packages/i386/ is not available? During the 3.9 release cycle BUILDS we run out of space in our FTP partition temporarily. And so do quite a few mirrors -- so we are cautious in this regard. The packages for one release are 19GB. Considering that most FTP sites contain

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
you Theo, have the luxury only few have Actually the real luxury all of us have is that we can delete mails from people who only think of themselves. WE make it possible for YOU Theo to do this. so don't tell me i am lucky to use openbsd. Fine. So stop making it possible for (not me), but

Re: Privilege separation privilege revocation

2006-03-23 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:14:12AM -0300, Joco Salvatti wrote: Hi all, I've tried to find any definition on the Internet before but I really couldn't find a paper or anything that could clear up my doubts. If anyone here could help me I'd be very thankful. The questions are the following:

Re: anoncvs + OPENBSD_3_9_BASE

2006-03-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On 3/23/06, Bob Bostwick (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that why /snapshots/packages/i386/ is not available? I'm probably going to get yelled at for asking this, but I really don't know the answer. I just upgraded to -current, if I can't use /snapshots/packages/i386/ for installing

Re: Privilege separation privilege revocation

2006-03-23 Thread veins
--- =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Salvatti?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've tried to find any definition on the Internet before but I really couldn't find a paper or anything that could clear up my doubts. If anyone here could help me I'd be very thankful. The questions are the following:

Re: no-df and OS Fingerprint issue

2006-03-23 Thread Nikolai N. Fetissov
On Wed, March 22, 2006 10:18 pm, Diego Casati wrote: Hi, Im trying to block a Windows XP SP2 with the OSFP support on PF but a rather odd behavior seems to be happening. Not sure about this. This is the only lines that I have on my pf.conf. The thing is, when I take the word no-df from the

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... In the last month about 1/5th of what we need to run in a year has been donated. Sad, eh. 350 donation transactions in one month. I had no idea that the OpenSSH deployment

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 NICs: Only ICMP, no TCP/UDP?

2006-03-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On 3/23/06, Alexander Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I tried to install OpenBSD 3.8 on a box with two Gigabit 3Com cards with Broadcom BCM5701 chipset. I set up networking, configured the ip address, set the default route, put the nameserver into the resolv.conf file. Pinging the

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Hernandez
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... In the last month about 1/5th of what we need to run in a year has been donated. Sad, eh. 350 donation transactions in one

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... In the last month about 1/5th of what we need to run in a year has been donated. Sad, eh. 350 donation transactions in one month. I had no idea that the OpenSSH

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/23/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... In the last month about 1/5th of what we need to run in a year has been donated. Sad, eh. 350 donation transactions in

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 3/23/06, Michael Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a feeling this has been asked before but I'm sure there are new readers on this list (such as myself) that could benefit from a repeated answer. It certainly has. Did you search the list archives? You can easily find the answer

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:23:02AM -0700, Theo de Raadt said that it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... Sad, eh. 350 donation transactions in one month. I had no idea that the OpenSSH deployment on the

Re: soekris

2006-03-23 Thread Peter
--- Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody have a soekris box and would like to give a shell account for some testing? I am considering to buy one for me, but i would like, previously, to be able to feel what it is like. What sort of testing? About feelings, it depends on what

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Craig
How long I have been a user is irrelevant, to be honest. I resent the overtones of elitism, of which it appears you are complaining about in others. I am merely an enthusiast, but I make what contributions I can and I do it because I personally feel it is the right thing to do. I have not been

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Frantisek Holop, if you are so thankless towards our efforts, please stop posting to our mailing lists. PLEASE stop running any software we write. I know I am not alone when I ask this of you.

Re: OpenBSD and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Fraser
Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to take in money by nickels and dimes rather than obtaining research grants from the Alberta government? Alberta is rolling in cash, and has specifically stated it wants to invest in technological research so that it will be in a good position when oil

Re: soekris

2006-03-23 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 23 March 2006 13:08, you wrote: SNIP Other than that, my system performs very well on a small lan and I am very happy. Here is my df: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 118M 21.7M 90.0M19%/ mfs:30147 7.8M100K7.3M

Re: OpenBSD and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
We have nowhere to start. Alberta does not care about what we do. This is an oil place, not a IT place.

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/23/06, frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am really not entitled to judge you, except the creator no one is. but answer me frankly please, do you think that the legend of your personality is helping to raise funds for the project? My company knows nothing of Theo's personality

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Daniel E. Hassler
I read that FTP is becoming far more popular than CDROMs as a means of obtaining OpenBSD. If this is because it's more convenient (vs. folks just being too cheap) then it might make sense to sell downloadable official (copyright Theo de Raadt) ISO images of releases as well as CDROMs. Yes,

Re: Privilege separation privilege revocation

2006-03-23 Thread João Salvatti
Thanks for all!!! On 3/23/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:14:12AM -0300, Joco Salvatti wrote: Hi all, I've tried to find any definition on the Internet before but I really couldn't find a paper or anything that could clear up my doubts. If

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 12:25:01PM -0700, Theo de Raadt said that Frantisek Holop, if you are so thankless towards our efforts, please stop posting to our mailing lists. PLEASE stop running any software we write. I know I am not alone when I ask this of you. thankless? you sir, are

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 07:08:00PM +, Craig said that How long I have been a user is irrelevant, to be honest. I resent the overtones of elitism, of which it appears you are complaining about in others. as some other elitist will surely point out to you, posting a private letter on a

Re: soekris

2006-03-23 Thread Peter
--- marrandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 13:08, you wrote: SNIP Other than that, my system performs very well on a small lan and I am very happy. Here is my df: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 118M 21.7M 90.0M

Re: soekris

2006-03-23 Thread marrandy
On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:41, you wrote: Why isn't /var listed in MFS ? Logs etc # ls -lh /var lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8B Dec 16 21:28 /var - /tmp/var I was wondering if you had done something like that. Hows it holding up with only 7.8MB for both /tmp and /var ? Any crashes

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread chefren
On 03/23/06 20:13, frantisek holop wrote: how long would wikipedia survive with a userbase attitude like yours? everything is connected with everything. Yes, and Theo's attitude is perfect for OpenBSD and OpenSSH in a technical way. I do agree Theo should correct one bit but no more than

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
thankless? you sir, are the most thankless project leader i have ever seen in my life. We thank with code. We don't come shower people with nice words. We write code. i have been advocating openbsd since the 2.6 times and buying cds/shirts/posters since i started making money. wim can

Re: soekris

2006-03-23 Thread Peter
--- marrandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:41, you wrote: Why isn't /var listed in MFS ? Logs etc # ls -lh /var lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8B Dec 16 21:28 /var - /tmp/var I was wondering if you had done something like that. Hows it holding up

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
I read that FTP is becoming far more popular than CDROMs as a means of obtaining OpenBSD. If this is because it's more convenient (vs. folks just being too cheap) then it might make sense to sell downloadable official (copyright Theo de Raadt) ISO images of releases as well as

Bank transfers for donating

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Until earlier today I was unaware that it is much easier for Europeans to donate via direct bank transfers. Apparently bank transfers, compared to paypal or credit card transactions, are more reliable, more secure, and very inexpensive. (Between countries in the Euro zone they may not cost more

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread eric
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 21:40:31 +0100, frantisek holop proclaimed... you can ignore, that's for sure. but you don't... at least i made you think about it. Aren't you done yet, troll? Still hungry?

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Gordon Grieder
I don't see it written anywhere where buying CDs or donating to the project gives any of us users a vote into how things are done within the project. I've loved the OS for years and support the project, that's the only vote I'm entitled to and I'm glad to exercise it. Please let this thread die,

Re: OpenBSD and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Fraser
To get money from the government you have to work with professionals consultants. The good ones are expensive, but they do work on a contingency basis. They know who to ask, and what incantation to follow. Its their job to get the money not yours. The trick is finding a good one. To get

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Steinfeld
I think that everyone here at one point or another has been insulted or even attacked for posting to this mailing list. Yes, there are some very 'trigger happy' folks here. More so then other mailing lists. I am not saying that often enough an email doesn't warrant a good flame, but sometimes I

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread chefren
On 03/23/06 20:52, Daniel E. Hassler wrote: I read that FTP is becoming far more popular than CDROMs as a means of obtaining OpenBSD. If this is because it's more convenient (vs. folks just being too cheap) then it might make sense to sell downloadable official (copyright Theo de Raadt)

We can't. [was: Re: openbsd and the money -solutions]

2006-03-23 Thread chefren
On 03/23/06 22:11, Theo de Raadt wrote: We can't. What's difficult with pointing ftp.openbsd.org to a new server that's a mirror of the current ftp.openbsd.org server? Why can you point us again and again to the place where we should buy CD's while we want to be pointed to a the place

Re: SGI O2 R12000 [SOLVED]

2006-03-23 Thread Bachman Kharazmi
YES! I finally made it! OpenBSD/sgi (silikon.lan) (tty00) :) login: # uname -a OpenBSD silikon.lan 3.8 GENERIC#164 sgi here are a few pics of my environment: http://bkw.lindesign.se/gallery/boxes/ I will prolly write a doc just as last time I was playing with diskless on OpenBSD

OpenSSH Permissions

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Steinfeld
I have created an rsa key on my workstations which I use to ssh to 25+ servers I have a small script that allows me to 'ssh ${host}' easily. but when I am logged into $host1 and attempt to ssh to $host2 I'm prompted for a password. So, I decided to copy my id_rsa into the ${host}~./ssh

Re: SGI O2 R12000 [SOLVED]

2006-03-23 Thread Miod Vallat
my next mission is to get X running on 'silikon'. I haven't found any specific documentation about that at all... There is currently no X server support on sgi O2. This is being worked on, but don't hold your breath. Miod

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Axton
I fail to see why there aren't at least 2000 people/organizations/OS's/OS projects willing to donate at a dollar a day. That should give the projects what they need to evolve at a healthy pace. ~5,000/mo for power, internet connection, and other overhead ~25,000/mo for hackathons ~10,000/mo for

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Mitch Parker
Some of us: 1. Work for companies which want you to have a physical CD around, even if it is available via FTP. 2. Buy CD's (I have to preorder 3.9, and I will). 3. Put the stickers on our machines and servers. 4. Work on machines which may not be connected to the Internet. 5. Don't have the

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread eric
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 22:27:10 +0100, chefren proclaimed... Sigh... Is it so difficult to try this for a period? I offer to do the administration. Who the fuck are you? Nobody, that's who. I don't trust some nobody to do the administration of the FTP server I download from. Why would we

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Craig
Apologies if this hasn't already been covered on the lists somewhere. Limit CD-ROM download availability and push for more CD sales. Instead of offering hefty discounts to resellers, why not establish trusted distribution points in different countries? I would personally be happy to act as one

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread steve szmidt
On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:54, you wrote: thankless? you sir, are the most thankless project leader i have ever seen in my life. We thank with code. We don't come shower people with nice words. We write code. Oh, dear. Frantisek, The dichotomies are only too obvious. As dumb as it

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Wojtek
Let's get straight. I don't need Theo de Raadt to tell me thank you, I don't need him to set any kind of thank letters, I need him to run this project, and make it work/develop. If he does, and project goes well... Yes, that's the way I know where are my money spend for. So let it just run,

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
I did not mean to step on another sacred cow - I really only wanted to suggest redirecting this thread toward workable solutions. The problem is that many of the workable solutions people are suggesting are completely ridiculous. They are in the catagory of Cater to me, the entire world is

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Greg Thomas
How about the next time Theo, Marco, or another developer asks for donations/sponsorship everyone does one or more of the following: 1. Donates cash. 2. Writes letters to those who can donate cash. 3. Buys CDs/merch. 4. Gets friends and co-workers to buy CDs/merch. (Non-IT people love my

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 NICs: Only ICMP, no TCP/UDP?

2006-03-23 Thread Alexander Neumann
Hi, * Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/23/06, Alexander Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install OpenBSD 3.8 on a box with two Gigabit 3Com cards with Broadcom BCM5701 chipset. I set up networking, configured the ip address, set the default route, put the nameserver

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Roger Neth Jr
On 3/23/06, Wojtek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's get straight. I don't need Theo de Raadt to tell me thank you, I don't need him to set any kind of thank letters, I need him to run this project, and make it work/develop. If he does, and project goes well... Yes, that's the way I know where

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

2006-03-23 Thread Daniel E. Hassler
Are you saying we can't propose anything better? I did not mean to step on another sacred cow - I really only wanted to suggest redirecting this thread toward workable solutions. I don't know anything and I can prove it! Theo de Raadt wrote: I read that FTP is becoming far more popular

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Wojtek
I'll also include Theo and OpenBSD in my daily prayers. If you wish so ;) I will not ;) -- Wojtek

Re: Bank transfers for donating

2006-03-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
So we have setup a bank account, and people can use the following information for IBAN and SWIFT/BIC transfers: http://www.openbsd.org/bank-donation.html Thanks! This is quite useful from a European point of view. nitpick :- The sentence Payment should be made within 30 days after

Re: openbsd and the money

2006-03-23 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/23/06, Roger Neth Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll also include Theo and OpenBSD in my daily prayers. Has Theo and OpenBSD asked you for your prayers? Greg Matthew 19:12

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