Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-02 Thread Siju George
On Jan 2, 2008 2:54 AM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the real issue, Richard. You go off and endorse OpenSolaris without knowing the facts. You get confronted with them and you change history. Sound familiar? What sounds familiar is the nasty spin you place

gnash: can't load library

2008-01-02 Thread Chris
I upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2 with X and upgraded gnash. Now when I go to certain sites using Firefox I get the following in STDOUT - /usr/local/bin/gnash: can't load library 'libavcodec.so.8.0' /usr/local/bin/gnash: can't load library '/usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.5.0' Child process exited with status

Re: openldap with dbv4 crash

2008-01-02 Thread Liviu Daia
On 1 January 2008, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vijay Sankar mrta: [...] there's support in 2.4 but iirc it's not a simple thing to backport. Why should we backport the db4.6 support? We just need to use 2.4. [...] (1) Historically, upgrading existing OpenLDAP databases to new formats

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-02 Thread Richard Stallman
Richard, you are too stupid to go and learn FACTS before you open your big fat lying mouth. I am sure the readers can judge for themselves whether I am stupid. They will certainly see I am not perfect. I had learned the facts about OpenSolaris, but that was months before. By the time I

[OT] sendmail on dynamic IP

2008-01-02 Thread Chris
I got a test box at home I'm trying to setup sendmail in. I bought a domain and host a website on that box. I get dynamic IP from my ISP which gets updated via DynDNS for the website. I added the MX for my domain with Google and it's been working fine (I can send receive mail). But I want to setup

Re: [OT] sendmail on dynamic IP

2008-01-02 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/02 21:22, Chris wrote: I got a test box at home I'm trying to setup sendmail in. I bought a domain and host a website on that box. I get dynamic IP from my ISP which gets updated via DynDNS for the website. I added the MX for my domain with Google and it's been working fine (I can

Able to access data on HD on platforms with different endianness?

2008-01-02 Thread Seth Brundle
Hello list happy new year, due to some problems with a x86 machine I got here I have the problem of accessing data on one of its hard discs. The machine runned OpenBSD 4.2, and its first (system) HD died. I have a 500GByte SATA drive connected to it on a dedicated controller, which contains a

lm(4) sensor device at 0xa10

2008-01-02 Thread Markus Hennecke
Hello misc, the mainboard I am currently using has a Winbond W83627EHF Super-I/O chip which is accessed via address 0xa10 on the isa bus. This patch brings that chip into the kernel config files for i386 and amd64, below is the dmesg output (amd64, if needed I could provide the i386 dmesg

Cluebat and other hints required - how to figure out what happened to a box that stops responding but doesn't crash?

2008-01-02 Thread viq
I have a serial console set up on that box, and can make it drop to ddb... But what next? I am still/again trying to figure out what's happening when rtorrent is run, and the otherwise stable box does stop responding after a while... But I need some help on how to get more useful info out of the

Re: gnash: can't load library

2008-01-02 Thread Markus Lude
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:24:49PM +1100, Chris wrote: I upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2 with X and upgraded gnash. Now when I go to certain sites using Firefox I get the following in STDOUT - Did you upgrade your other packages as well or only gnash? How did you upgrade gnash?

Re: router/firewall PF

2008-01-02 Thread Lars Noodén
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a basic router/firewall configuration http://home.nuug.no/~peter/pf/en/ There's also this one: Firewalling IPv6 with OpenBSD's pf (packet filter) https://solarflux.org/pf/pf+IPv6.php IPv6 will be required in a number of governments starting this

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-02 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:46:43PM -0800, Unix Fan wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: To satisfy my own curiosity, looking at www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_X_window_managers which provides links to 45 window managers for which there are wiki pages, I looked at the licence for each

Re: Able to access data on HD on platforms with different endianness?

2008-01-02 Thread Marco Peereboom
Don't mix endianess on filesystems. It won't work. On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:34:52PM +0100, Seth Brundle wrote: Hello list happy new year, due to some problems with a x86 machine I got here I have the problem of accessing data on one of its hard discs. The machine runned OpenBSD 4.2, and

Re: Able to access data on HD on platforms with different endianness?

2008-01-02 Thread Seth Brundle
2008/1/2, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't mix endianess on filesystems. It won't work. Thanks. Surely saved some time for me. On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:34:52PM +0100, Seth Brundle wrote: Hello list happy new year, due to some problems with a x86 machine I got here I have

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Dec 27, 2007 11:17 AM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a snapshot today and follow -current for many years w/o having to

Re: openldap with dbv4 crash

2008-01-02 Thread Vijay Sankar
On December 31, 2007 06:59:06 am Vijay Sankar wrote: On December 30, 2007 08:03:09 pm Stuart Henderson wrote: On December 29, 2007 11:23:19 am Daniel wrote: Hi (again, sorry, now with Subject)! Anyone experiencing or experienced segfaults with openldap using the bdb

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:46:43PM -0800, Unix Fan wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: To satisfy my own curiosity, looking at www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_X_window_managers which provides links to 45 window managers for which there are wiki pages, I looked at the licence for

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: I have quite the same problem. my OBSD routers are usually old PII boxes and doing this kind of upgrade on them is not trivial. other, I have some remote routers I cant do this, so They run FBSD. I'd rather use OBSD on my routers,

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Henning Brauer
* Nenhum_de_Nos [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-02 17:49]: On Dec 27, 2007 11:17 AM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get a

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 11:17 AM, new_guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to install OpenBSD *once* and keep it patched and secured for many years there after (5 - 7 years) in a production environment. Would it be feasible to get

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
Richard, you are too stupid to go and learn FACTS before you open your big fat lying mouth. I am sure the readers can judge for themselves whether I am stupid. They will certainly see I am not perfect. I had learned the facts about OpenSolaris, but that was months before. By the

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-02 Thread Marc Balmer
* Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [...] I also forgot that Enlightenment seems to be under a suitable licence, although probably too big to put in base. enlightnment is development code that does not run stable. It is not usable for production or every day use machines. Doug. - Marc Balmer

Using PF to QoS on tun interface

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Golder
I inherited a system that is attempting (poorly) to QoS traffic going across a tun interface (which is being used by OpenVPN). Examples, books, and ML suggest to tag on the internal interface ingress traffic and QoS on the external interface egress traffic. Since the traffic that I want to QoS

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 12:40:40PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: There has to be a way without CD. Can't you put the 4.2 rd kernel on the root filesystem and boot that then run the installer, pulling the install sets via ftp? I suppose for remote units you need some sort of remote shell

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-02 Thread Marco Peereboom
Can we please stop this discussion? Nothing is going to change in base X. All the other things you guys are so called proposing are in packages/ports. Use them; that's why they are there for. Base is fine, leave it alone. On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:19:06AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On

Re: openldap with dbv4 crash

2008-01-02 Thread Daniel
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:13:26 -0600 Vijay Sankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On December 31, 2007 06:59:06 am Vijay Sankar wrote: env CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/db4 -I/usr/local/include/sasl \ LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib/db4 -L/usr/local/share/libtool/libltdl -L/usr/local/lib/sasl2

Re: Using PF to QoS on tun interface

2008-01-02 Thread johan beisser
On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Nick Golder wrote: I inherited a system that is attempting (poorly) to QoS traffic going across a tun interface (which is being used by OpenVPN). Examples, books, and ML suggest to tag on the internal interface ingress traffic and QoS on the external interface

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Matheus, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote on Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300: my OBSD routers are usually old PII boxes and doing this kind of upgrade on them is not trivial. Saying this kind of upgrade, you refer to the official upgrade process, i presume? The official upgrade process is

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-02 Thread Marco S Hyman
Marco Peereboom writes: -Nix Fan. (Fvwm, IMHO is ugly..) Fluxbox is fugly, fvwm is awesome. this discussion is very useful! cwm (with the changes I've made :-) is looking nicer and nicer! I hope to see these changes in the tree, soon. // marc

CDMA modem control utility

2008-01-02 Thread Alexey Vatchenko
Hi! Recently i started project ``CDMA modem control utility''. Currently it partially supports two C-motech modems (CCU-550, CCU-650U). These two modems are popular here at Ukraine (people.net.ua). The program can do the following: - Change/set/enable/disable PIN code. - Send/receive SMS -

possible bug in CDROM recognition?

2008-01-02 Thread Russell Gadd
I am a complete novice regarding OpenBSD. However... I was going to ask for assistance as my new install of OBSD wouldn't recognise the cdrom. However after much investigation I fixed it by changing the physical position of the device from IDE slave on the secondary IDE interface to master (in

Re: possible bug in CDROM recognition?

2008-01-02 Thread Alexey Vatchenko
On 2008-01-02, Russell Gadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe there is a minor bug in how hardware is recognised. Does anyone want a more detailed description with dmesg output? (before and after). I have to admit not looking for any similar bug reports, but I will if the folks here who know a

Updated ports/packages in -stable/-release

2008-01-02 Thread Nicolas Letellier
Hello misc@, I have a question : If I want the last packages/ports, I use a -current system, with -current ports tree. Last updates of softwares are in -current. On the other hand, they're developpement versions, If I want a *very* stable system (in production for example), I use -release

Re: possible bug in CDROM recognition?

2008-01-02 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Russell Gadd wrote: I was going to ask for assistance as my new install of OBSD wouldn't recognise the cdrom. However after much investigation I fixed it by changing the physical position of the device from IDE slave on the secondary IDE interface to master (in dmesg speak, from channel

Re: diff of the official FAQ

2008-01-02 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Saturday 29 December 2007 00:34, Nick Holland wrote: And...just start at chapter 1 and start reading. :) Odds are, you didn't catch it all the first time, even things that didn't change will mean something to you now when it didn't the last time you looked. Exactly. About once a year i go

Re: Problem while chroot python and modules in apache

2008-01-02 Thread Joerg Zinke
On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:59:27 +0800 Michael Bibby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. I use OpenBSD 4.2 -release and the default chrooted apache. I copied all files python needed, and it works. but the modules py-ldap doesn't work. # tail -f /var/www/logs/error_log Traceback (most

Re: Updated ports/packages in -stable/-release

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/1/2, Nicolas Letellier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why does OpenBSD team not make a -stable branch of the port tree ? It's Search the archives. Basically you are not paying the team enough. Best Martin

Re: Updated ports/packages in -stable/-release

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Holland
Nicolas Letellier wrote: Hello misc@, I have a question : If I want the last packages/ports, I use a -current system, with -current ports tree. Last updates of softwares are in -current. On the other hand, they're developpement versions, Might be better to say they are what is going to

Re: Updated ports/packages in -stable/-release

2008-01-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Nicolas, please also read the FAQ on www.openbsd.org. Nicolas Letellier schrieb am Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:50:43PM +0100: If I want the last packages/ports, I use a -current system, with -current ports tree. Last updates of softwares are in -current. Right. On the other hand, they're

Re: Perpetually Current

2008-01-02 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Jan 2, 2008 4:57 PM, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matheus, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote on Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:42:01PM -0300: my OBSD routers are usually old PII boxes and doing this kind of upgrade on them is not trivial. Saying this kind of upgrade, you refer to the official

Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread Erik Wikström
Hi I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a file-server which will contain stuff with some emotional value, data- loss. The

newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Xavier Mertens
Hi *, I'm trying to build a new FS on an IDE disk. All newfs commands end with: # newfs /dev/rwd1a .. .. newfs: cg 0: bad magic number newfs: fsinit1 failed Here is the disk info: # disklabel wd1 # /dev/rwd1c: type: ESDI disk: ESDI/IDE disk label: Maxtor 6B250R0 flags: bytes/sector: 512

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread johan beisser
On Jan 2, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Erik Wikstrvm wrote: The preferable way to solve this would probably be to use two disks but that is not an option for me. So I was wondering if it is possible to instead split the disk in two parts, the first is used to install OpenBSD on, and the rest is split in

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Xavier Mertens
Strange... fdisk wd1 reports: # fdisk wd1 Disk: wd1 geometry: 30515/255/63 [490234752 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0x180 Starting EndingLBA Info: #: id C H S - C H S [ start:size ]

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread Chris Zakelj
Erik WikstrC6m wrote: Hi I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a file-server which will contain stuff with some emotional

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Holland
Erik Wikstrvm wrote: Hi I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a file-server which will contain stuff with some

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Nick Holland
Good thing OpenBSD only runs on one platform and one type of computer, eh? Xavier Mertens wrote: ... 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:481950 4.2BSD 2048 16384 16 c:4902347520

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/1/3, Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: When I create some partitions, write them to the disk, restart fdisk, I'm back to the same empty config. Is my disk physically dead? :( http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Install 4.5.2: On platforms which use fdisk, it is important that the first

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Ted Unangst
On 1/2/08, Xavier Mertens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a:481950 4.2BSD 2048 16384 16 your partition is not properly offset from the beginning of the disk, where all the goodies like

Re: pgt prevents pf from scrubbing? (Solved)

2008-01-02 Thread Daniel Melameth
This issue has been address by mglocker@ by modifying the behavior of pf_normalize_tcpopt() in current's pf_norm.c. Thank you again Marcus! On 12/27/07, Daniel Melameth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pgt, for me, has proven to be more reliable than ral, but this annoying scrubbing/mss issue is

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Xavier Mertens
Indeed, this test was bad... But the same occurs with an offset of 63 sectors :( Same with fdisk: fdisk: 1 edit 3 Starting EndingLBA Info: #: id C H S - C H S [ start:size ]

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008/01/03 01:29, Erik Wikstrvm wrote: The preferable way to solve this would probably be to use two disks but that is not an option for me. So I was wondering if it is possible to instead split the disk in two parts, the first is used to install OpenBSD on, and the rest is split in two and

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Xavier Mertens
Ok, I fixed the disk partitions: # fdisk wd1 Disk: wd1 geometry: 30515/255/63 [490234752 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0x0 Starting EndingLBA Info: #: id C H S - C H S [ start:size ]

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread scott
Chris is very much on point. But if --for what ever reasons-- it has to be a one hard drive (hd) solution then understand that bad power and heat and then shock are your hd's enemies. Use a ups with o/s graceful sync/shutdown signalling enabled. If not a full ups, then an active

Re: Problem while chroot python and modules in apache

2008-01-02 Thread Michael Bibby
Hi, all. Thanks Joerg, but it doesn't work yet. I copied all openldap-client files to chrooted apache dir, but it shown the same error. Am i missing something? Files i copied: # pkg_info -L openldap-client | grep -v '/man/' | \ grep -v '/share/' | \ grep '^/usr/local/'

Re: Improving disk reliability

2008-01-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 01:29:38AM +0100, Erik Wikstr??m wrote: I am setting up a OpenBSD box to act as a router/file-server for my parents, the box consists mostly of old parts and I try to not spend any extra money on it. One of my biggest worries is, since it will act as a file-server which

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-02 Thread Sunnz
Hello Richard, After reading this thread, I was interested to see what your list recommendation really was, because I have never actually seen it!! So I headed over fsf.org which leads me to this page when trying to find out your list of recommended OS list: http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html

Re: Updated ports/packages in -stable/-release

2008-01-02 Thread Steven Surdock
Nick Holland wrote: Nicolas Letellier wrote: Hello misc@, ... Let's say you plan on implementing a new machine today. Install -current. Really. In May, upgrade to the 4.3, and sit there for six months. In November, upgrade to 4.4. IF you are using some third party apps which have issues

Re: newfs: cg 0: bad magic number

2008-01-02 Thread Xavier Mertens
Is that normal to have a signature of 0x0 reported by fdisk? On my other disks, signature is 0xAA55. Thanks for your help! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Xavier Mertens Sent: jeudi 3 janvier 2008 2:28 To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: