Re: Broadcom BCM5716 support in 4.6/snapshots

2009-09-14 Thread David Gwynne
i have some 960s floating around here, i'll see if i can give one of them a go with openbsd in the next few days. On 14/09/2009, at 12:06 PM, Predrag Punosevac wrote: Hi, I bought a couple new dells with Broadcom BCM5716 chips on the motherboard for network support but everytime I boot and

Re: X crashes with snapshot

2009-09-14 Thread LEVAI Daniel
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15.27.01 you wrote: On Monday 07 September 2009 18.44.42 Owain Ainsworth wrote: On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:27:31AM +0200, LEVAI Daniel wrote: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting Please checkout the xenocara tree and follow the

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Re: X crashes with snapshot

2009-09-14 Thread patrick keshishian
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, LEVAI Daniel l...@ecentrum.hu wrote: On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15.27.01 you wrote: On Monday 07 September 2009 18.44.42 Owain Ainsworth wrote: On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:27:31AM +0200, LEVAI Daniel wrote: Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server

Re: X crashes with snapshot

2009-09-14 Thread LEVAI Daniel
On Monday 14 September 2009 11.00.49 you wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:32 PM, LEVAI Daniel l...@ecentrum.hu wrote: On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15.27.01 you wrote: On Monday 07 September 2009 18.44.42 Owain Ainsworth wrote: On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:27:31AM +0200, LEVAI Daniel wrote:

OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, As some of you may know, my beloved x31 thinkpad went pop last week and needs a new system board :( Not worth the effort in replacing. I have located someone willing to sell me an X41 tablet at a very affordable price, however this is the model with the sucky hitachi disk. I have seen that

really strange console message?

2009-09-14 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, today, one of my servers (4.5-stable/i386) beeped to me, over an SSH connection, and said this, via syslogd: hostname /bsd: 1540? The fact that the message went to a terminal suggests that this should describe a pretty serious error condition. Google turned up nothing, though... Kind

Re: Java plugin

2009-09-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 9/13/2009 10:48 PM, eagir...@cox.net wrote: But the predicted (by the FAQ) message on using the plugin that comes along with JDK installation did not appear. IIRC, the Java 1.7 port doesn't include the plugin.

Re: Erlangen Mirror Downtime

2009-09-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-09-13, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, On Wed, 19.08.2009 at 09:37:26 +0200, Alexander von Gernler gr...@pestilenz.org wrote: This means that the mirror won't be available for a longer period of time before I can bring it back online. I will reflect this situation on

Re: Java plugin

2009-09-14 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
Bryan wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 19:48, eagir...@cox.net wrote: Well, I built and installed the JDK (1.7) from ports. The FAQ is correct about it's taking a long time, and it took so much space that I ended up mounting an additional partition for /usr/ports, because /usr ran out of

Re: Java plugin

2009-09-14 Thread Tom Van Looy
Starting from 1.7 OpenBSD has a fully GPLv2 licensed port, that can be installed as a package. Users looking for the browser plugin will still need to build 1.5 or 1.6 from ports until Sun releases the plugin code. -- openbsd faq eagir...@cox.net wrote: Well, I built and installed the JDK

Re: how see refresh rate computer sends to LCD screen

2009-09-14 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 05:46:30AM +0200, Jesus Sanchez wrote: Nick Holland escribis: Jesus Sanchez wrote: Hi, using 4.5 stable. I'm doing some tests with the VESA driver on a HP nx9030 (a laptop) and I noticed a little flicker on the screen when I'm using the VESA driver so I wanted to

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Re: :Microsoft VPN

2009-09-14 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote: stan wrote: OUr company was bought out a while back, and the new oweres are changing pretty much everryhting. This includes changing external access from a Cisco VPN to a Microsoft VPN. Can anyone here give me a pinter to where I can get information on this? What I

Re: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium
From: Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com I have located someone willing to sell me an X41 tablet at a very affordable price, however this is the model with the sucky hitachi disk [..snip..] a) Is there anywhere you can get SSD's for cheaper than 100GBP. I only really need 60GB or so. b) Any other

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Dan Harnett
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:37:39PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: b) Any other comments? I don't think there is any SSD available that (1) can be fitted into an X40/X41, (2) is available in 64 GB or more, and (3) has reasonable performance for small random writes. It's frustrating as

Re: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread David Vasek
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Peter Kay - Syllopsium wrote: Unless the price is very, very good I wouldn't bother with the X41. If it's not out of warranty it will be so within a month or two. Go for an X60 or X61 instead. With an X61 you'll get a Core2Duo, VT support, 8GB memory support and an SATA

Re: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Peter Kay - Syllopsium
- Original Message - From: David Vasek va...@fido.cz It could make sense. However, you won't have working suspend/resume with OpenBSD yet and will have to fight with ACPI and its possible problems. Not speaking about hibernation, which X4x laptops have. Also, a keyboard without

:Microsoft VPN

2009-09-14 Thread stan
OUr company was bought out a while back, and the new oweres are changing pretty much everryhting. This includes changing external access from a Cisco VPN to a Microsoft VPN. Can anyone here give me a pinter to where I can get information on this? What I want to be able to do is use my OpenBSD

Re: :Microsoft VPN

2009-09-14 Thread Brynet
Hi stan, Are you talking about a PPTP client? http://openports.se/net/pptp -Brynet

Re: :Microsoft VPN

2009-09-14 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
stan wrote: OUr company was bought out a while back, and the new oweres are changing pretty much everryhting. This includes changing external access from a Cisco VPN to a Microsoft VPN. Can anyone here give me a pinter to where I can get information on this? What I want to be able to do is

supported travel printer and scanner

2009-09-14 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
i am looking for a travel printer and scanner (two separate devices) that are supported by openbsd, specifically amd64. i am aware that this info is listed on the site but a suggestion from an actual user is what i'm after prior to purchasing. main things i'm after are - durability -

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread jean-francois
As just for information at ldlc.com you find out a 32 GO for some 90 EUR and a 64 GO for a 130 EUR inc transp. I use one of them on my PC and installed OpenBSD quite well, however not a laptop. Just be sure it will meet your need. Le lundi 14 septembre 2009 C 11:13 +0100, Edd Barrett a C)crit

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Oliver Peter li...@peter.de.com wrote: I don't think there is any SSD available that (1) can be fitted into an X40/X41, (2) is available in 64 GB or more, and (3) has reasonable performance for small random writes. KingSpec-1-8-IDE-SSD-MLC-64GB Indeed. Lenovo also has an SSD for the

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote: I have located someone willing to sell me an X41 tablet at a very affordable price, however this is the model with the sucky hitachi disk. I have seen that you can get SSD adaptors for X41's and slap an SSD in there, Careful, even with an adapter you can

Re: :Microsoft VPN

2009-09-14 Thread James Records
If its just a pptp connection your going to be using, this is pretty simple, install the pptp package, and then look at man pptp, they have an example of this exact setup in that man page. J On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:55 AM, stan st...@panix.com wrote: OUr company was bought out a while back,

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi, On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Dan Harnett dan...@harnett.name wrote: At least here, one could get a used X60 for the cost of the 128GB drive. Yes, I think this is my new plan. Would have been nice to have the tablet, but it's not essential. Thanks to all that replied. -- Best Regards

Re: toad VPN

2009-09-14 Thread Lars Nooden
stan wrote: OUr company was bought out a while back, and the new oweres are changing pretty much everryhting. This includes changing external access from a Cisco VPN to a Microsoft VPN. Can anyone here give me a pinter to where I can get information on this? There's no legitimate constructive

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Oliver Peter
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 02:37:39PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: Edd Barrett vex...@gmail.com wrote: ... b) Any other comments? I don't think there is any SSD available that (1) can be fitted into an X40/X41, (2) is available in 64 GB or more, and (3) has reasonable performance for

Help recovering backup OpenBSD firewall configs

2009-09-14 Thread stan
A few weeks back I had a hardware failure on my backup OpenBSD 4.0 firewall amchine. It's one of pair with carp and pfsync. It also proveds ospf to our corporate ospf cloud. I shut this machine down, and ran on only ther primary for a while. Unfortunately that while turned out to be long enough

Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Tom Smith
Hi Misc, Even though this article: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability was many years ago and performance in OpenBSD had improved greatly since that time, I still hear people (mostly younger people) complain about OpenBSD performance. They cite poor threading, unused cores, no bigmem support, etc.

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 14 September 2009 13:39:46 Tom Smith wrote: Hi Misc, Even though this article: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability was many years ago and performance in OpenBSD had improved greatly since that time, I still hear people (mostly younger people) complain about OpenBSD performance. They

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Lars Nooden
Tom Smith wrote: 3. pf, carp, OpenBGPD pfsync Regards, -Lars

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 14 September 2009 06:13:26 Edd Barrett wrote: Hi, As some of you may know, my beloved x31 thinkpad went pop last week and needs a new system board :( Not worth the effort in replacing. I have located someone willing to sell me an X41 tablet at a very affordable price, however this

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Jose Quinteiro
I've heard a different version of that one: ...is like teaching a pig to sing, it wastes your time and it annoys the pig. Saludos, Jose. On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:44:55 -0400, STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote: Attempting to prove the worth of OpenBSD to folks who are not able to figure things

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread tico
STeve Andre' wrote: On Monday 14 September 2009 13:39:46 Tom Smith wrote: Hi Misc, Even though this article: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability was many years ago and performance in OpenBSD had improved greatly since that time, I still hear people (mostly younger people) complain about OpenBSD

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread Jason Dixon
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:40:36PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: Certainly there are SSDs that work just fine, but from the experiences of friends, I'd say they're at least 3 times more flaky than disks are. Intel had a recall on some earlier this summer, too. Disks are cheap, really cheap

Re: OT: Laptop advice. SSD costs.

2009-09-14 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 14 September 2009 14:17:35 you wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:40:36PM -0400, STeve Andre' wrote: Certainly there are SSDs that work just fine, but from the experiences of friends, I'd say they're at least 3 times more flaky than disks are. Intel had a recall on some earlier

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Marco Peereboom
If you think micro benchmarks are worth anything you have a micro understanding of the problem. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 01:39:46PM -0400, Tom Smith wrote: Hi Misc, Even though this article: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability was many years ago and performance in OpenBSD had improved greatly

Re: Broadcom BCM5716 support in 4.6/snapshots

2009-09-14 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Hi, I bought a couple new dells with Broadcom BCM5716 chips on the motherboard for network support but everytime I boot and it gets to the starting network it reboots on me. Anyone have any ideas on this? thanks, JB Hi, I got two weeks ago brand new OptiPlex 960. I think it is

Re: :Microsoft VPN

2009-09-14 Thread Marcello Cruz
Hi Stan, OUr company was bought out a while back, and the new oweres are changing pretty much everryhting. This includes changing external access from a Cisco VPN to a Microsoft VPN. Can anyone here give me a pinter to where I can get information on this? What I want to be able to do is use

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Steve Shockley
On 9/14/2009 2:53 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: If you think micro benchmarks are worth anything you have a micro understanding of the problem. You shouldn't make generalizations like that. What if his primary workload is micro benchmarks?

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Marco Peereboom
Then it is of micro importance. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:46:13PM -0400, Steve Shockley wrote: On 9/14/2009 2:53 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: If you think micro benchmarks are worth anything you have a micro understanding of the problem. You shouldn't make generalizations like that. What

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 01:39:46PM -0400, Tom Smith wrote: Hi Misc, Even though this article: http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability was many years ago and performance in OpenBSD had improved greatly since that time, I still hear people (mostly younger people) complain about OpenBSD performance.

supported travel printer and scanner

2009-09-14 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
i am looking for a travel printer and scanner (two separate devices) that are supported by openbsd, specifically amd64. i am aware that this info is listed on the site but a suggestion from an actual user is what i'm after prior to purchasing. main things i'm after are - durability -

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dhcpd and net.inet.ip.mforwarding / multipath

2009-09-14 Thread Doug Milam
Hello, I want to be sure that the following two sysctl variables are not needed for a basic internet router/gateway with NAT: net.inet.ip.mforwarding net.inet.ip.multipath I've already enabled: net.inet.ip.forwarding Perhaps the first two are needed for 'exotic' services like Bonjour, etc.?

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23:58PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that like to prove. In the end many of fefe's test programs did not actually measure what he assumed they would. and he was open to get patches to remedy those problems. general dislike of any benchmark in the world is also part

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Robert
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:15:27 +0200 frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: hmm, on Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23:58PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that like to prove. In the end many of fefe's test programs did not actually measure what he assumed they would. and he was open to get patches to

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OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-14 Thread patrick keshishian
I didn't want to hijack the other VPN thread for this purpose, so here is a new thread. Anyone know much about how Juniper SSL-VPN networks work? Curious, --patrick

Re: OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-14 Thread Johan Beisser
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:39 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't want to hijack the other VPN thread for this purpose, so here is a new thread. Anyone know much about how Juniper SSL-VPN networks work? It's a java based client that's run on the client-side and forwards

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Nick Holland
frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23:58PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that like to prove. In the end many of fefe's test programs did not actually measure what he assumed they would. and he was open to get patches to remedy those problems. sarcasmand always showed total

Re: Supporting OpenBSD

2009-09-14 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
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Clarification for use of sticky-address in pf.conf

2009-09-14 Thread David Harrison
Hi misc, I'm looking at how to apply the use of the stick-address option. Can someone confirm for me that I only need to use the option for the first pool based rule, and that any subsequent rule utilising that same pool spec will also have the option applied ? IE. I have 2 rules as follows:

Re: OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-14 Thread patrick keshishian
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Johan Beisser j...@caustic.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:39 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't want to hijack the other VPN thread for this purpose, so here is a new thread. Anyone know much about how Juniper SSL-VPN networks

Re: Supporting OpenBSD

2009-09-14 Thread Aaron Mason
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni m...@dbolgheroni.eng.br wrote: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Nick Holland wrote: Thanks to those that contribute money and buy CDs. I would like to buy CDs, but in Brazil these kind of products have a high tax fee applied when they hit the harbour.

Re: Supporting OpenBSD

2009-09-14 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni m...@dbolgheroni.eng.brwrote: On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Nick Holland wrote: Thanks to those that contribute money and buy CDs. I would like to buy CDs, but in Brazil these kind of products have a high tax fee applied when they hit the harbour.

Re: OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-14 Thread Johan Beisser
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: ahhh... Do you know if there are any open-source clients that are able to connect through their service? I'm unable to google any specifics on what protocol they use, or rather what their java app does after it is

Re: Supporting OpenBSD

2009-09-14 Thread eagirard
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni m...@dbolgheroni.eng.br wrote: Thanks to those that contribute money and buy CDs. I would like to buy CDs, but in Brazil these kind of products have a high tax fee applied when they hit the harbour. For a $50 CD, I'll probably pay almost

Re: OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-14 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:06:22 -0700, Johan Beisser wrote: Not as far as I know. To be honest, I've not researched it, but I know the java app OS specific (customised for Linux, MacOS, and Windows). Write Once - Run Anywhere, eh? Grinning, running and ducking! *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I

Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance

2009-09-14 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:43:27AM +0200, Robert wrote: | On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:15:27 +0200 | frantisek holop min...@obiit.org wrote: | | hmm, on Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:23:58PM +0200, Claudio Jeker said that | like to prove. In the end many of fefe's test programs did not | actually

Re: OT: Juniper SSL-VPN?

2009-09-14 Thread patrick keshishian
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:06:22 -0700, Johan Beisser wrote: Not as far as I know. To be honest, I've not researched it, but I know the java app OS specific (customised for Linux, MacOS, and Windows). Write Once - Run