Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Benoit Chesneau
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stuff... is ATi really the way to go, if you just want a straight forward desktop? Have ATi (or anyone) really got their docs going without NDA, and are there actually exists drivers for them in the latest release of OpenBSD.

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marco Peereboom
It is in this thread: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120926655909874w=2 On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:59:14AM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a few days ago I answered this question. Simply look for it. if you could

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Sunnz
2008/5/4 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is in this thread: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120926655909874w=2 Thanks for the link, so nv itself is developed by nVidia themselves and is written to be obscure too... that's another reason for me to chuck away my nVidia card!! 2008/5/4

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marco Peereboom
My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made me realize how much better the driver is. On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:42:44AM +1000, Sunnz wrote: 2008/5/4 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It is in

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 10:16:54AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made me realize how much better the driver is. Almost the same, except that my old laptop

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Sunnz
2008/5/5 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made me realize how much better the driver is. I see... I take it that you are running -current? Looking at

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marco Peereboom
uhm what else is there besides -current? ;-) On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 02:04:49AM +1000, Sunnz wrote: 2008/5/5 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My previous laptop was radeonhd and I might go back to it until noveau is in enough shape. Only after coming from radeonhd to go nvidia made

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Nick Holland
Marco Peereboom wrote: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open source. I'm going to express a very small and highly qualified exception to this comment... I have found

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:24:20PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Marco Peereboom wrote: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open source. I'm going to express a very

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Jukka Ruohonen
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open source. I'm going to express a very small and highly qualified exception to this comment... I concur: clearly things are

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Marco Peereboom
Nick if you looked at the code of that driver you would not have written this blurb. On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 01:24:20PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Marco Peereboom wrote: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is in this thread: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=120926655909874w=2 thanks for the link :) well, the chat on the thread just fires bombs on nVidia, what is not new. apart from some info from you about radeonhd, no

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-04 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:17:58PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: radeonhd has any 3D ? 3D acceleration is not currently supported on OpenBSD, but work is being done to ensure that it will be supported in the future. A recent progress report, together with a description of the status of NVIDIA,

Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Sunnz
I am just wondering if the NV driver for nVidia cards are supposed to be slow, for just the desktop? That is, no 3D. I am currently running Xfce Desktop on 4.2-release, just surfing the web and stuff, nothing heavy... and Desktop switching, maximising windows, and stuff takes unusually long

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:48:48PM +1000, Sunnz wrote: I am just wondering if the NV driver for nVidia cards are supposed to be slow, for just the desktop? That is, no 3D. I am currently running Xfce Desktop on 4.2-release, just surfing the web and stuff, nothing heavy... and Desktop

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Sunnz
2008/5/4 Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED]: well, WHICH nVidia card? don't you think that might matter? any clues in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log? the following machine uses the nv driver, and I don't see what you describe under either blackbox or kde. Well I am suspecting it is a

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Sunnz
Ok I am using blackbox instead of xfwm4 now... still running on Xfce but no more delays in anything. :) -- This e-mail may be confidential. You may not copy, forward, distribute, or, use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it from your system and notify the

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open source. On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 08:48:48PM +1000, Sunnz wrote: I am just wondering if the NV driver for nVidia cards are supposed to

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open source. by any means this is criticism, just for

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Adam Jacob Muller
On May 3, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Marco Peereboom
Just a few days ago I answered this question. Simply look for it. On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 05:47:57PM -0300, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a few days ago I answered this question. Simply look for it. if you could tell me the email subject. I've looked for every mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the misc (from gmail's search options) and found none nvidia

Re: Is NV supposed to be SLOW?

2008-05-03 Thread Sunnz
2008/5/4 Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. NVIDIA refuses to make a useful open source driver. It is barely functional and it generally sucks really really bad. Stay away from NVIDIA when doing open source. Yes I know about this binary blob. Even FreeBSD users are forced to use i386