Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-30 Thread slackwaree
And you link a report from 2018 in 2020, currently we are at OpenBSD 6.6. Maybe instead of spamming stupidity on the mailing list do the benchmarks yourself with current systems on the same hardware and publish those results. I personally don't have any issues with OpenBSD being drastically

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-30 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On 2020-01-30 10:57, Handreas wrote: > "Can't say much for the performance of a suite of servers which have > all been taken down to handle the security threat du jour." > > Repeat it again? >

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-30 Thread Handreas
"Can't say much for the performance of a suite of servers which have all been taken down to handle the security threat du jour." Repeat it again? https://www.qualys.com/2020/01/28/cve-2020-7247/lpe-rce-opensmtpd.txt?_ga=2.120267019.2069438099.1580381821-1178380388.1580381821 adresine sahip

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance

2020-01-09 Thread Predrag Punosevac
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 3:25 PM Hamd wrote: > Joe, are you a joke? Please stop insulting me, this is not > my/your_personal_fancy_forum. > > This will be my last post here in misc. > > Default setups, no config. changes. > Just patches installed. > Same hardware. > > FreeBSD: > freebsd@test:~ #

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread Jordan Geoghegan
On 2020-01-09 06:22, Hamd wrote: Joe, are you a joke? Please stop insulting me, this is not my/your_personal_fancy_forum. This will be my last post here in misc. Default setups, no config. changes. Just patches installed. Same hardware. FreeBSD: freebsd@test:~ # time sh -c "dd if=/dev/zero

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 3:25 PM Hamd wrote: > Joe, are you a joke? Please stop insulting me, this is not > my/your_personal_fancy_forum. > > This will be my last post here in misc. > > Default setups, no config. changes. > Just patches installed. > Same hardware. > > FreeBSD: > freebsd@test:~ #

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread Karel Gardas
On 1/9/20 4:37 PM, Karel Gardas wrote: On 1/9/20 3:22 PM, Hamd wrote: FreeBSD: freebsd@test:~ # time sh -c "dd if=/dev/zero of=test.tmp bs=4k count=5 && sync" 5+0 records in 5+0 records out 20480 bytes transferred in 0.239590 secs (854792500 bytes/sec) 0.000u 0.195s 0:00.25

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread Karel Gardas
On 1/9/20 3:22 PM, Hamd wrote: FreeBSD: freebsd@test:~ # time sh -c "dd if=/dev/zero of=test.tmp bs=4k count=5 && sync" 5+0 records in 5+0 records out 20480 bytes transferred in 0.239590 secs (854792500 bytes/sec) 0.000u 0.195s 0:00.25 76.0% 22+198k 0+1568io 0pf+0w Result:

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread Consus
On 17:22 Thu 09 Jan, Hamd wrote: > Joe, are you a joke? Please stop insulting me, this is not > my/your_personal_fancy_forum. > > This will be my last post here in misc. > > Default setups, no config. changes. > Just patches installed. > Same hardware. > > FreeBSD: > freebsd@test:~ # time sh -c

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread infoomatic
just out of curiosity: did you do the FreeBSD test on ZFS with compression enabled? Am 09.01.20 um 15:22 schrieb Hamd: Joe, are you a joke? Please stop insulting me, this is not my/your_personal_fancy_forum. This will be my last post here in misc. Default setups, no config. changes. Just

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-09 Thread Hamd
Joe, are you a joke? Please stop insulting me, this is not my/your_personal_fancy_forum. This will be my last post here in misc. Default setups, no config. changes. Just patches installed. Same hardware. FreeBSD: freebsd@test:~ # time sh -c "dd if=/dev/zero of=test.tmp bs=4k count=5 &&

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:57:37 +0300 Hamd wrote: > Under less than 24 hours, after my post, the misc has received 2 or 3 > brand new questions/posts regarding slow*. The problem is, well, > obviously not me, personally. > For the Dev Team (All of 'em. Volunteer, beer-teer, pay-teer ones): I >

Re: File systems [was Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?]

2020-01-08 Thread Tom Smyth
Hi Karel, Thanks, for the correction... I thought zfs was bigger than that ;) Thanks On Wednesday, 8 January 2020, Karel Gardas wrote: > > > On 1/8/20 12:44 PM, Tom Smyth wrote: > >> As far as im aware there are 2 concerns about ZFS, >> 1) its license is not BSD /ISC you can use it and

Re: File systems [was Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?]

2020-01-08 Thread Karel Gardas
On 1/8/20 12:44 PM, Tom Smyth wrote: As far as im aware there are 2 concerns about ZFS, 1) its license is not BSD /ISC you can use it and make money and not be sued, but it is more restrictive than BSD / ISC Yes, CDDL seems to be a no go based on past CDDL discussion which is available

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-08 Thread Jonathan Drews
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 at 7:35 AM From: "Hamd" To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance? It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the lowest/poorest (general/overall) performance ever: https://www.phoronix.com/sca

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-08 Thread Joe Greco
On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 05:57:37PM +0300, Hamd wrote: > Under less than 24 hours, after my post, the misc has received 2 or 3 brand > new questions/posts regarding slow*. Well, in the case of my issue, I am reasonably certain that this isn't an issue with LibreSSL. I raised it as an issue of

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-08 Thread Hamd
"4.) The code is right there, you are invited to improve the situation." Simple answer: I'm not a developer, I'm a user. A regular one. Under less than 24 hours, after my post, the misc has received 2 or 3 brand new questions/posts regarding slow*. The problem is, well, obviously not me,

Re: File systems [was Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?]

2020-01-08 Thread Tom Smyth
Howdy Stuart, On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 11:17, Stuart Longland wrote: > > On 8/1/20 1:25 am, Karel Gardas wrote: > > And yes, ffs performance sucks, but nor me nor you provide any diff to > > change that so we can just shut up and use what's available. > > Okay, question is if not ffs, then what? >

File systems [was Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?]

2020-01-08 Thread Stuart Longland
On 8/1/20 1:25 am, Karel Gardas wrote: > And yes, ffs performance sucks, but nor me nor you provide any diff to > change that so we can just shut up and use what's available. Okay, question is if not ffs, then what? - Other BSDs have ZFS… is it viable to port that to OpenBSD? (Maybe it's been

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Brian Brombacher
There might be something wrong with your setup. I routinely get 500+ MB/s disk and full 1 GBit Ethernet. > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Hamd wrote: > > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the > lowest/poorest (general/overall) performance ever: >

LibreSSL performance issue (was: Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?)

2020-01-07 Thread Joe Greco
On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 09:33:46AM -0600, Edgar Pettijohn wrote: > > In reality, when you dig down, often you find that there's another > > reason for the issue.?? I was recently trying to substitute libressl > > into an openssl environment.?? Performance tanked.?? Some checking > > showed the

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Karel Gardas
On 1/7/20 3:35 PM, Hamd wrote: It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the lowest/poorest (general/overall) performance ever: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=8-linux-bsd=1 Read comments to the article, I already done mine:

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On Jan 7, 2020 9:18 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 02:47:02PM +, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > > Hamd writes: > > > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the > > > ... lists full of the uninteresting type of wine and that their > > > twitterings -still-

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread infoomatic
1.) OpenBSD never stated that ultimate performance is their goal, but clean maintainable code is, and thus in case of a compromise the developers will choose clean code over performance. 2.) to quote Breandan Gregg: "All benchmarks are wrong until proven otherwise" 3.) It's 2020 and you quote a

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Karel Gardas
It's 2020 and you are sending a link to article from 2018? Anyway, you (phoronix) compare '90 ffs technology with state of the art of current storage/fs in linuxes/bsd represented by XFS/Ext4 and ZFS filesystems and you compare with the winner right? Kind of unfair don't you think? And

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Florian Obser
On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 05:35:13PM +0300, Hamd wrote: > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the > lowest/poorest (general/overall) performance ever: Thank you for your kind and encouraging words. I will get right on fixing these issues for you. -- I'm not entirely sure you

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Antal Ispanovity
2020-01-07 15:35 GMT+01:00, Hamd : > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the > lowest/poorest (general/overall) performance ever: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=8-linux-bsd=1 > > My reference is not -only- that url, of course. My reference is my OpenBSD, >

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Joe Greco
On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 02:47:02PM +, cho...@jtan.com wrote: > Hamd writes: > > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the > > ... lists full of the uninteresting type of wine and that their > > twitterings -still- don't include any code. > > Yes. Yes it is. > > Can't say

Re: OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread chohag
Hamd writes: > It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the > ... lists full of the uninteresting type of wine and that their > twitterings -still- don't include any code. Yes. Yes it is. Can't say much for the performance of a suite of servers which have all been taken down to

OpenBSD's extremely poor network/disk performance?

2020-01-07 Thread Hamd
It's 2020 and it's -still- sad to see OpenBSD -still- has the lowest/poorest (general/overall) performance ever: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=8-linux-bsd=1 My reference is not -only- that url, of course. My reference is my OpenBSD, giving ~8 MB/s file transfer/network/disk