And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove
your thesis?
Absolutely nothing, I must assume.
(BTW, your argument is weak and would be stronger if you tied it into
the faked moonlandings).
I may get a little off-topic here and object for this very important
topic to be
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 09:37:24 -0700
Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove
your thesis?
Absolutely nothing, I must assume.
Your assumption is wrong. I am working with my colleagues from 2f30 on
the morpheus-project[0]
And who are you, and what you have you done to test and then prove
your thesis?
Absolutely nothing, I must assume.
Your assumption is wrong. I am working with my colleagues from 2f30 on
the morpheus-project[0] (including package-manager) and we have a set
of static binary-packages[1]
At the risk of having Theo tell me to shut up and get back to work on
things that matter, ...
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:33 AM, FRIGN d...@frign.de wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:33 +0100
Ingo Schwarze schwa...@usta.de wrote:
There are dragons.
If this scares anybody, i'm not surprised;
On 15-01-01 07:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
At the risk of having Theo tell me to shut up and get back to work on
things that matter, ...
and
I suppose it's inevitible that someone will want to control the world,
but I really wish you and your friends would quit lying to yourselves
about power.
I
On Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:33 +0100
Ingo Schwarze schwa...@usta.de wrote:
There are dragons.
If this scares anybody, i'm not surprised; updating libraries is
not a playground for newbies.
That, actually, is *terrible* advice and almost guarantees a fiasco.
If you edit shlib_version
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 10:04:26 -0700
Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
Ah, another arrogance -- you came here to advertise.
Nope, if you read my first mail again, you'd see that I did not mention
our project once and only presented it to challenge your assumption that
I'm just some
Quoting FRIGN d...@frign.de:
It may be a little far-fetched, but I'm sure it would be possible
to have one package-manager for all distributions if there would just
be the motivation to distribute statically linked binaries and not fuck
things up with distribution-specific folder-structures.
On 2014-12-12, ian kremlin i...@kremlin.cc wrote:
whenever i grab a snapshot and get library version mismatches after a
`pkg_add -u`, i've found the easiest way to get those objects is grab a
fresh source tree and compile them manually. for example, libc:
cd /usr/src/lib/libc
edit
Hi Ian,
ian kremlin wrote on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:04:26PM -0500:
whenever i grab a snapshot and get library version mismatches after a
`pkg_add -u`, i've found the easiest way to get those objects
Definitely not the easiest way. Waiting for the next snapshot is
definitely much easier and
ian kremlin wrote on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:04:26PM -0500:
whenever i grab a snapshot and get library version mismatches after a
`pkg_add -u`, i've found the easiest way to get those objects
Definitely not the easiest way. Waiting for the next snapshot is
definitely much easier and
On Dec 12, 2014 1:06 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
ian kremlin wrote on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:04:26PM -0500:
whenever i grab a snapshot and get library version mismatches after a
`pkg_add -u`, i've found the easiest way to get those objects
Definitely not the
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Ingo Schwarze schwa...@usta.de wrote:
There are dragons.
ingo, theo:
sorry to post toxic advice, and thanks for the knowledge. i did not realize
how shlib_version worked. i must have gotten lucky with my build but i
should go back and fix it properly now
ian
If you don't understand that snapshots get built, that libraries
crank, that there are PEOPLE building this, that the data takes time
to get to the mirrors, and that this is a non-static situation, that
small catch-up syncronization errors are made, that they get fixed by
real people,
On 2014-12-11, Stan Gammons sg063...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok. The way I normally update is by downloading the install5x.iso, make
the cd and boot from it, do an upgrade, reboot, do a sysmerge, then do
pkg_add -u. After all the failures because of the library mismatch, kde4
will no longer start
The conversation is very META.
What is META?
That it is a discussion about a discussion, not about any topic of its own.
2014-12-11 12:37 GMT+01:00 Mihai Popescu mih...@gmail.com:
The conversation is very META.
What is META?
--
May the most significant bit of your life be positive.
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:27:46 -0500
STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote:
You might want to subscribe to the ports-changes changes list,
which will show you what's been changed. The source-changes
list will show you all the other cvs commits. Look at
http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html
Btw, now
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:59:55AM +0100, FRIGN wrote:
Btw, now that the topic has come up. Is there a way to view the
diffs quickly on a source- or port-change?
Not official and not instantly updated:
http://anoncvs.estpak.ee/cgi-bin/cgit/openbsd-ports/log/
--
Oliver PETER
you could try http://anoncvs.estpak.ee/cgi-bin/cgit/openbsd-ports/log/
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:59 AM, FRIGN d...@frign.de wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:27:46 -0500
STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote:
You might want to subscribe to the ports-changes changes list,
which will show you
On 2014-12-11, Oliver Peter li...@peter.de.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:59:55AM +0100, FRIGN wrote:
Btw, now that the topic has come up. Is there a way to view the
diffs quickly on a source- or port-change?
Not official and not instantly updated:
On 12/11/14 05:59, FRIGN wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:27:46 -0500
STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote:
You might want to subscribe to the ports-changes changes list,
which will show you what's been changed. The source-changes
list will show you all the other cvs commits. Look at
whenever i grab a snapshot and get library version mismatches after a
`pkg_add -u`, i've found the easiest way to get those objects is grab a
fresh source tree and compile them manually. for example, libc:
cd /usr/src/lib/libc
edit 'shlib_version' to have the appropriate major/minor versions
On 12/10/14 20:51, Stan Gammons wrote:
When will new packages be built for AMD64? I'm getting library errors
with the latest snapshot and the current packages.
Stan
They come out frequently, but not on a set schedule. Since the
last set came out on the 6th, I would expect the next set in
On Dec 10, 2014 10:03 PM, STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu wrote:
On 12/10/14 20:51, Stan Gammons wrote:
When will new packages be built for AMD64? I'm getting library errors
with the latest snapshot and the current packages.
Stan
They come out frequently, but not on a set schedule. Since
On 10 December 2014, Stan Gammons sg063...@gmail.com wrote:
When will new packages be built for AMD64? I'm getting library errors
with the latest snapshot and the current packages.
There are bigger problems with the latest snapshot:
$ ldd /usr/sbin/unbound
Look, this is rather simple.
If you don't understand that snapshots get built, that libraries
crank, that there are PEOPLE building this, that the data takes time
to get to the mirrors, and that this is a non-static situation, that
small catch-up syncronization errors are made, that they get
On 11 December 2014, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
On 10 December 2014, Stan Gammons sg063...@gmail.com wrote:
When will new packages be built for AMD64? I'm getting library errors
with the latest snapshot and the current packages.
There are bigger problems with
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