Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
That's not true. If you have a signed piece of paper saying I wrote it in mm-dd- you are good to go. The same way patents work; prior art can be proven by writing your idea in an engineering notebook (you know, pen and paper!) and then signing it. Since those notebooks are usually in

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Sunnz
Well if you prove that you wrote it then that would defeat the purpose of releasing it under the name of anonmyous would you? One would be violating the copyright law regardless what name the said code is released under right? I mean, a third party won't be able to claim that they are the

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Marco Peereboom
I didn't claim it was a good idea. Anyway, this is all theoretical. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:36:11PM +1000, Sunnz wrote: Well if you prove that you wrote it then that would defeat the purpose of releasing it under the name of anonmyous would you? One would be violating the copyright law

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-06-23, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if you prove that you wrote it then that would defeat the purpose of releasing it under the name of anonmyous would you? Someone may want to intentionally release it anonymously, then go back and try and sue people for infringing their

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 08:45:59AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:36:11PM +1000, Sunnz wrote: Well if you prove that you wrote it then that would defeat the purpose of releasing it under the name of anonmyous would you? One would be violating the copyright law

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Ted Unangst
On 6/22/08, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... Looking back, I realized the subject question is not the same as the body question and nobody has answered it. For OpenBSD, the answer is no, you cannot contribute anonymously. If one were to release

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Theo de Raadt
Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if it was released as public domain? I guess the actually question you wanted to as was: Does OpenBSD

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Sunnz
2008/6/24 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if it was released as public domain? I guess the actually

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Sunnz wrote: 2008/6/24 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if it was released as public domain? I guess

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-23 Thread Emilio Perea
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 04:01:57PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: The demise of his qmail is a wonderful example of interesting project which died because of the bad licence. I know that lots of people here like his djbdns but just imagine what could have happened with his projects if they

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Paul de Weerd
IANAL... On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 03:43:09AM +1000, Sunnz wrote: | Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this... | | If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause | license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if | it was released as public domain?

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Ringo Kamens
My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the copyright holder. Comrade RIngo Kamens On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL... On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 03:43:09AM +1000,

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:18:33PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | That wouldn't work because the original author would be able to prove | he was the owner of the copyright. And that isn't possible in the hypothetical situation posted by the OP ? Cheers, Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd --

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:09:37PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain | since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the | copyright holder. | Comrade RIngo Kamens Let me just steal some code somewhere, relicense it and

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Ringo Kamens
That wouldn't work because the original author would be able to prove he was the owner of the copyright. Comrade RIngo Kamens On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:09:37PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | My guess would be that the content

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Ted Unangst
On 6/22/08, Ringo Kamens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess would be that the content is released into the public domain since you can't sue because there is no proof that you are the copyright holder. He absolutely can sue. He says I don't know who this anonymous person is, but they copied

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Ringo Kamens
Sorry, I should have been more clear in my statement. What I was saying is that if the original author of the work published it anonymously, he would not be able to sue because he would not be able to prove he was the original author and copyright holder of the work. Comrade Ringo Kamens On Sun,

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 05:18:51PM -0400, Ringo Kamens wrote: | Sorry, I should have been more clear in my statement. What I was | saying is that if the original author of the work published it | anonymously, he would not be able to sue because he would not be able | to prove he was the original

Re: Can you contribute code under anonymous under ISC License?

2008-06-22 Thread Ringo Kamens
Said individual would have to be able to prove he originally made the content available. I guess this could theoretically be possible ie if server logs verify it or something along those lines. Things to consider: 1. If said individual posted code anonymously, wouldn't that indicate they would