Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-27 Thread Sunnz
May I ask 'other' upgrade questions? This is concerned with -current. 1, How does the naming works? Is the current -current tree named as 4.1-current? I downloaded the snapshots of -current off ftp mirror, and they are all 41: cd41.iso, etc41.tgz, etc... will they become cd42.iso and

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-27 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:19:38AM +1000, Sunnz wrote: May I ask 'other' upgrade questions? This is concerned with -current. 1, How does the naming works? Is the current -current tree named as 4.1-current? I downloaded the snapshots of -current off ftp mirror, and they are all 41:

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-27 Thread Michael Scheliga
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunnz Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:20 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported May I ask 'other' upgrade questions? This is

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-21 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 01:55:42 -0700, Darren Spruell wrote: If your requirement is to maintain multiple systems concurrently, you may be better served (and probably should consider) keeping everything even and exact by using release(8) to build binary updates and apply them everywhere. This

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/03/22 00:07, Maurice Janssen wrote: Is it OK to untar the .tgz files on a running system (after rebooting with the new kernel of course) or is it recommended to boot in single user mode? See 'upgrading without install media' in the closest Upgrade Guide

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-19 Thread Nick Holland
RStachowiak wrote: On 18/03/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The question was not about normal upgrade procedure (which I'm perfectly aware of ) but about internal working of system during upgrade phase to let me understand it better and comprehend all corner cases. The formal

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-19 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/18/07, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/18/07, Maurice Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, March 16, 2007 at 19:34:59 -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: Running A.B-RELEASE+Patches is very similar to A.B-STABLE since the user applied patches (available on the errata.html

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Friday, March 16, 2007 at 19:34:59 -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: Running A.B-RELEASE+Patches is very similar to A.B-STABLE since the user applied patches (available on the errata.html page) are included withing the -STABLE branch of cvs but the differences is the -STABLE branch of cvs also

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread Darren Spruell
On 3/18/07, Maurice Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, March 16, 2007 at 19:34:59 -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: Running A.B-RELEASE+Patches is very similar to A.B-STABLE since the user applied patches (available on the errata.html page) are included withing the -STABLE branch of cvs but

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 18 March 2007 01:55, Darren Spruell wrote: On 3/18/07, Maurice Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, March 16, 2007 at 19:34:59 -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: Running A.B-RELEASE+Patches is very similar to A.B-STABLE since the user applied patches (available on the errata.html

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread Sunnz
Just a quick question, say if you got 3.9-stable can you binary upgrade it to 4.0-release using the CD? (Or, perhaps, FTP?) 2007/3/18, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 18 March 2007 01:55, Darren Spruell wrote: On 3/18/07, Maurice Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, March

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread Marc Balmer
Sunnz wrote: Just a quick question, say if you got 3.9-stable can you binary upgrade it to 4.0-release using the CD? (Or, perhaps, FTP?) yes, updates from one version to the next are supported. to do so, boot from the install media and choose the upgrade option. It is not important if the

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 18 March 2007 06:15, Sunnz wrote: Just a quick question, say if you got 3.9-stable can you binary upgrade it to 4.0-release using the CD? (Or, perhaps, FTP?) Yep. And the topic of upgrading is covered very well by the FAQ. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade40.html Personally, I never

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread RStachowiak
On 18/03/07, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to note that *my* approach of running -STABLE is considered by many on this list to be unnecessarily conservative and I have to admit they are probably right. Unlike other projects, the -CURRENT branch of OpenBSD is extremely

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread Darren Spruell
On 3/18/07, RStachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Let's assume I use -STABLE 4.0, and after 4.1 is release I'll do checkout of STABLE 4.1 - what are the steps to do the upgrade then? Moving from one release to another should only be done via binary upgrades. Don't do a CVS checkout + upgrade

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread Nick Holland
RStachowiak wrote: On 18/03/07, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to note that *my* approach of running -STABLE is considered by many on this list to be unnecessarily conservative and I have to admit they are probably right. Unlike other projects, the -CURRENT branch of

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread RStachowiak
On 18/03/07, Nick Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Let's assume I use -CURRENT, and new release is done (for example coming 4.1). What is a proper procedure to do at such point? Is simple ;) cvs up, recompile, install, change configuration file according do upgrade manual,

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-18 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 18 March 2007 14:20, RStachowiak wrote: NO! (at least, not in general...) Re-read faq5.html a few times until it all makes sense... You UPGRADE by installing the closest available binary. Always. The question was not about normal upgrade procedure (which I'm perfectly aware

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-17 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Mike Piety wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:15:24 +0100 Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-17 Thread Woodchuck
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6 remote vulnerability. I

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-17 Thread Mike Piety
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:31:05 +0100 Martin Schrvder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/3/16, Mike Piety [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uh, why don't you just load your release bsd.rd at the boot prompt, and do an upgrade to 4.0, using the ftp method? This would install 4.0- stable, and would be a lot

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6 remote vulnerability. I

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6 remote vulnerability. I understood it's possible only by

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Craig Brozefsky
Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6 remote vulnerability. I understood

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Nick Holland
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6 remote vulnerability. I understood it's possible only by

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Mike Piety
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:15:24 +0100 Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/03/16 21:15, Karel Kulhavy wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html system != kernel. Some OS advise people to 'make world' as a way to upgrade to a new release, this

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Rafael Almeida
Just as a note, when I first read the section 5.2 of the FAQ I was also a bit confused. The line Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. made think that maybe following the -stable branch wasn't supported. But after doing more research I figured that following -stable

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread STeve Andre'
On Friday 16 March 2007 16:15:24 Karel Kulhavy wrote: Some reasons why NOT to build from source: [...] Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html I want to upgrade my 4.0-release system to get rid of the ipv6 remote vulnerability. I

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/3/16, Mike Piety [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uh, why don't you just load your release bsd.rd at the boot prompt, and do an upgrade to 4.0, using the ftp method? This would install 4.0- stable, and would be a lot faster. No. There are no new kernels (i.e. stable) available from the servers. Best

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Friday 16 March 2007 13:51, Nick Holland wrote: Read the rest of that page... you are confusing upGRADING and upDATING. Unfortunately, confusing the two terms, upGRADING and upDATING, is very easy to do mainly because of our usage of the terms is not particularly clear. For each numbered

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread Darren Spruell
On 3/16/07, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 16 March 2007 13:51, Nick Holland wrote: Read the rest of that page... you are confusing upGRADING and upDATING. Unfortunately, confusing the two terms, upGRADING and upDATING, is very easy to do mainly because of our usage of the

Re: Compiling your own system as a way of upgrading it is not supported

2007-03-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Friday 16 March 2007 20:07, Darren Spruell wrote: On 3/16/07, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 16 March 2007 13:51, Nick Holland wrote: Read the rest of that page... you are confusing upGRADING and upDATING. Unfortunately, confusing the two terms, upGRADING and