Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Andrew Smith
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2006 01:14 To: Andrew Smith Cc: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:15:02 +0100 Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GPL cannot be revoked by the author and, what is more, a new version

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Adam
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:01:22 +0100 Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html Scroll down to the section 'Permissions - the flip side' and consider the consequences of the statements in paragraph 4. This section is probably the biggest one that supports my

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Darrin Chandler
Andrew Smith wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html Scroll down to the section 'Permissions - the flip side' and consider the consequences of the statements in paragraph 4. This section is probably the biggest one that supports my view that GPL cannot be recinded and after initiation and

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Arnaud Bergeron
On 4/5/06, Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html Scroll down to the section 'Permissions - the flip side' and consider the consequences of the statements in paragraph 4. This section is probably the biggest one that supports my view that GPL cannot be

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Please guys, like I put in my original questions. Quote I don't want this to turn into a flame war however. If that's where it might be going, don't answer. Quote / Lets stick to the essence of the question. So far I got one good answer from Ted. Not sure yet that I fully understand it, or

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Donald J. Ankney
On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: If I see a GNU software that I like and the structure of it makes sense, or I think it makes sense, but I don't want to correct the bugs in it because it will stay under GNU. At what point, or how can it be replace by a BSD one where

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Arnaud Bergeron
On 4/5/06, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to the original topic, If what you are talking about is rather if you can replace some GPL file by an equivalent one but BSD licensed file, the answer is yes (as long as you don't copy-paste). But what does that really mean. It

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Anderson
** Reply to message from Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:25:52 -0400 Back to the original topic, If what you are talking about is rather if you can replace some GPL file by an equivalent one but BSD licensed file, the answer is yes (as long as you don't copy-paste).

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Arnaud Bergeron wrote: For example, if you have a function that takes a string argument and reverse the characters in it under GPL. You take what it does (reverse character in a string) and re-implement it with your own code. You can keep the same interface to the function (meaning name and

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 05/04/06, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:15:02 +0100 Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Linus faces this issue with future versions of Linux, he doesn't like GPL 3 and won't accept it but he can't take GPL 2 off Linux kernel since it is an evolving project and

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 05/04/06, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It means that a file with only #include statements is hardly copyrightable and can be copied at will. Can it really? I guess if in the end you make it KNF compliant and the order of the various includes are changed, but are the exact same

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-05 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
If you want a good insight on the issue of legal implications of creating derivative/non-derivative works with functionality that is present in existing implementations, I suggest that you follow the SCO vs. Linux lawsuit, the arguments around the issue are very relevant to your question. For

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-04 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/4/06, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure that this is a simple question, but what's the rules if any, or guide line someone can go under to replace files and code with BSD type in a project for example. I need some help understanding what's right and what's wrong and

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-04 Thread Darrin Chandler
Nick Guenther wrote: My understanding is that the owner of the copyright can change the license at any time, but that that change only applies to new versions. So: if you are forking someone else's GNU code then you can't arbitrarily make it BSD (because of the restrictions in the GPL). I

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-04 Thread Andrew Smith
license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one On 4/4/06, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure that this is a simple question, but what's the rules if any, or guide line someone can go under to replace files and code with BSD type in a project for example. I need some help

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-04 Thread Adam
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 00:15:02 +0100 Andrew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GPL cannot be revoked by the author and, what is more, a new version being classed as a 'derived work' would still under the terms of GPL be classed as GPL and the original author couldn't do anything about it. Revoking

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/04/05 00:15, Andrew Smith wrote: GPL cannot be revoked by the author Cannot be revoked but can be re-licenced by the author under another license. Where there's more than one author, all must agree to the change. This leads to dual-licensed code having things like

Re: GNU license files rules replacement guidelines with BSD one

2006-04-04 Thread Ted Unangst
On 4/4/06, Daniel Ouellet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let say that you have a GNU project and that you need to keep full compatibility with the system calls, in/out, same function names and in some cases structure, but the way the process is done is different. At what point is it correct and