Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-15 Thread Chris Bennett
You can very well roll your own package. After all, the pkg tools are fully documented in that respect. But you can't expect to uninstall a package and have stuff that depends on it still work. So the easiest way, seriously, is to create a newer package. Don't fight the system. If you

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:40:09PM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: I'm not sure how to look this up, and it doesn't seem to be in the FAQ. There does not seem to be a question in your message... I frequently add stuff that isn't in ports by building from sources. Sometimes this real world stuff

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Alan Corey
On 4/14/13, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:40:09PM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: I'm not sure how to look this up, and it doesn't seem to be in the FAQ. There does not seem to be a question in your message... I'm just wordy, I'll get to it. I frequently add stuff

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Matthew Weigel
On 4/14/2013 10:03 AM, Alan Corey wrote: This is ridiculous. A whole year and a half and it's been abandoned. You get a year, free, where people will happily help you. Look at how long FreeBSD or Debian supports their versions. Debian supports two releases back too, as I recall, they just

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:03:45AM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: | (besides 5.0 is no longer supported, so you'll have to update that one | anyways). | | This is ridiculous. What is ? That you get free software ? That you pay absolutely nothing for code that keeps improving, release after

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Stuart Henderson
If mixing ports and non-ports, you probably want to install the non-ports things to a different prefix other than /usr/local (and set shlib_dirs as appropriate). Then you can leave the versions needed for packages alone. You'll only get minimal support, if any, for doing this - we simply do not

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Alan Corey alan01...@gmail.com wrote: ... The question is what's the best way to mix current stuff in, I wasn't criticizing. It's actually handy to do an install and be able to reuse a fair percentage of distfiles. Can't do that with packages. There are

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 13:51, Philip Guenther wrote: Since you don't care about the package tracking apparently, just use pkg_info to get the list of files and directories and delete them. You can also install ports without all that dependency fussiness by running tar -C / -pzxf pkg.tgz. In

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Jan Stary
On Apr 14 11:03:45, alan01...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/14/13, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:40:09PM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: The question is what's the best way to mix current stuff in Run current, and create updated ports for the versions you need to run. but

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:03:45AM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: On 4/14/13, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: (besides 5.0 is no longer supported, so you'll have to update that one anyways). This is ridiculous. A whole year and a half and it's been abandoned. Look at how long FreeBSD or

Re: mixing ports and non-ports programs

2013-04-14 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 11:47:51PM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: On Apr 14 11:03:45, alan01...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/14/13, Marc Espie es...@nerim.net wrote: On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:40:09PM -0400, Alan Corey wrote: The question is what's the best way to mix current stuff in Run current,