Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-24 Thread Bryan Irvine
having also not read the book, my guess would be that a transparent proxy + firewall would increase security because people don't have the the option to run SSH tunnels via the HTTP port. A good example would be years ago I ran a sock4 proxy on port 80 on my home firewall to allow me to download

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-24 Thread Ryan McBride
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 12:15:55AM -0700, Bryan Irvine wrote: having also not read the book, my guess would be that a transparent proxy + firewall would increase security because people don't have the the option to run SSH tunnels via the HTTP port. A good example would be years ago I ran a

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-23 Thread Ed Flecko
The book is called Counter Hack Reloaded: A Step-by-Step Guide to Computer Attacks and Effective Defenses (2nd Edition) - http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Hack-Reloaded-Step-Step/dp/0131481045/ref=pd_bb s_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1206284032sr=8-1 The author makes several references to proxy firewalls and

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-23 Thread System Administrator
On 23 Mar 2008 at 7:58, Ed Flecko wrote: The book is called Counter Hack Reloaded: A Step-by-Step Guide to Computer Attacks and Effective Defenses (2nd Edition) - http://www.amazon.com/Counter-Hack-Reloaded-Step-Step/dp/0131481045/re f=pd_bb s_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1206284032sr=8-1 The

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-23 Thread Ed Flecko
In one section of the book (Page 301) the author contrasts nmap to Firewalk. He says, nmap cannot differentiate between what is open on an end machine and what is being firewalled. Firewalk, on the other hand, can determine if a given port is allowed through a packet-filtering device.With this

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-23 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-03-23, Ed Flecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He then shortly thereafter says, Firewalk even works against traditional and stateful packet filters, which both just decrement the TTL by one. However, Firewalk does not work against proxy based firewalls, because proxies do not forward

Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Ed Flecko
Hi folks, I'm reading a book on network security and it mentions proxy firewalls, so I'm wondering if an OpenBSD box with Squid installed would fit this description? Or, are there other proxy firewalls the author is referring to? The book mentions that although proxy firewalls tend to slow

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Denise H. G.
Ed Flecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi folks, I'm reading a book on network security and it mentions proxy firewalls, so I'm wondering if an OpenBSD box with Squid installed would fit this description? Or, are there other proxy firewalls the author is referring to? The book mentions that

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Lars Noodén
Ed Flecko wrote: I'm reading a book on network security and it mentions proxy firewalls ... are there other proxy firewalls the author is referring to? Which book? Title, author, ISBN would help. Or send a link to a review. As a matter of curiosity, has anyone ran an nmap scan against an

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Almir Karic
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Ed Flecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm reading a book on network security and it mentions proxy firewalls, so I'm wondering if an OpenBSD box with Squid installed would fit this description? Or, are there other proxy firewalls the author is

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Ed Flecko
I have not yet fully researched the PF functionality of OpenBSD, so I'm therefore guessing that the PF feature adds stateful packet inspection to an OpenBSD box. With that assumption, I guess I'm thinking PF and Squid (which works at the application layer of the OSI stack) would make a pretty

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread bofh
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Ed Flecko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not yet fully researched the PF functionality of OpenBSD, so I'm therefore guessing that the PF feature adds stateful packet inspection to an OpenBSD box. With that assumption, I guess I'm thinking PF and Squid

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Lars Noodén
Ed Flecko wrote: I have not yet fully researched the PF ... wonder if PF would analyze the incoming data stream first and then Squid, or would that be Squid first and then PF? It seems that you would benefit from beginning that research, sooner rather than later. Reading any material at all

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread Jon
Just like pfsync makes router fail-over possible when combined with CARP, is there a similar mechanism that could be used between two OpenBSD routers to provide fail-over for squid? If the squid machines I have to deal with over here could be replaced with OpenBSD boxes I could just casually

Re: Would OpenBSD and Squid be considered a Proxy Firewall?

2008-03-22 Thread bofh
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like pfsync makes router fail-over possible when combined with CARP, is there a similar mechanism that could be used between two OpenBSD routers to provide fail-over for squid? You would be well served by doing some research