Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-13 Thread Jeroen
Copperhead's linux-hardened can be a suitable replacement for grsec in due time. However, AFAIK that is not the intent. Fot those unfamiliar with Copperhead, they did (and do) an awesome job on hardening Android. They have forked AOSP, hardened it. The fork is called CopperheadOS. This is also

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-13 Thread Jeroen
Thanks, Kevin. Exactly this. Even though I think OpenBSD is awesome, it isn't fit for every situation/use case. Thus, I hardly meant that it is viable for anything and everything. To give some examples: OpenBSD doesn't support ZFS (nor should it, lots of kernel changes required for that, some are

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-11 Thread Dumitru Mișu Moldovan
Kevin Chadwick <m8il1i...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > > > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage > > of security. > > I wou

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of > security. I would use OpenBSD if you can but if you do decide on Linux and care about security there are on

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Jungle Boogie
On Thu 08 Feb 2018 6:21 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > Charlie Eddy <charlie.e...@occipital.com> wrote: > > > hello misc, > > > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > > mailing list some time ago

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 15:09:25 +0300 > > - You shouldn't assume we know Linux. So refering to a Linux > > specific command often does not help a lot. Try to explain what you > > want to achieve. > > I was just making a point. OpenBSD has a lot of downsides in some > areas so blindly calling it

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Consus
On 13:02 Fri 09 Feb, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 12:27:47PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > > On 23:12 Thu 08 Feb, Jeroen wrote: > > > I can talk hours and hours why OpenBSD is superior to Linux > > > > It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one > >

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 12:27:47PM +0300, Consus wrote: > On 23:12 Thu 08 Feb, Jeroen wrote: > > I can talk hours and hours why OpenBSD is superior to Linux > > It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one > command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux. I don't think

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 13:14:05 +0300 > # lsblk > NAMEMAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT > nvme0n1 259:00 238.5G 0 disk > ├─nvme0n1p1 259:10 256M 0 part /boot/efi > ├─nvme0n1p2 259:20 256M 0 part /boot > └─nvme0n1p3 259:30 238G 0 part >

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Consus
On 10:40 Fri 09 Feb, Philipp Buehler wrote: > Am 09.02.2018 10:27 schrieb Consus: > > It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one > > command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux. > > You're implying.. > > # lsblk > bash: lsblk: command not found > > And just that is

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread John Wilkes
Eddy" <charlie.e...@occipital.com> An: misc@openbsd.org Betreff: considering a move to OpenBSD hello misc,OpenBSD[https://3c.gmx.net/mail/client/folder;jsessionid=65A379D72B7A98611E388F1A9FABCCDF-n1.bs06a?folderId=tfol13c1d90600f67315=USER_DEFINED] I am considering a move to OpenBSD, si

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Philipp Buehler
Am 09.02.2018 10:27 schrieb Consus: It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux. You're implying.. # lsblk bash: lsblk: command not found And just that is already a reason, I do not like "Linux" very much. -- pb

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-09 Thread Consus
On 23:12 Thu 08 Feb, Jeroen wrote: > I can talk hours and hours why OpenBSD is superior to Linux It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux.

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
On 02/08/18 19:28, mazocomp wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:41:20PM -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote: hello misc, Hi! I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. Good, go ahead, all doors

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread mazocomp
On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:41:20PM -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > Hi! > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list > some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. > Good, go ahead, all doors are open. > How

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Jeffrey Joshua Rollin
On 8 Feb 2018 23:23, "Steve Litt" <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 Charlie Eddy <charlie.e...@occipital.com> wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > mailing list some time

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Daniel Bolgheroni
On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 09:41:20PM +, Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list > some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. > > However, a programmer who I know personally and

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Charlie Eddy
Thanks Daniel. Definitely the correct answer. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni <dan...@bolgh.eng.br> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 09:41:20PM +, Charlie Eddy wrote: > > hello misc, > > > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscr

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 Charlie Eddy <charlie.e...@occipital.com> wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of > security. > > However, a progr

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Tom Smyth
ah, it's WordPress. Sorry about that. > > Regards, > J. > > On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 13:41 -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote: >> hello misc, >> >> I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list >> some time ago (~few months). I want to take a

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > Does the difference boil down to one's > definition of free software, and then compliance with that definition? There is a huge difference. Arch is at the whim of Linux which is far behind even the Windows kernel in mitigations (which is far behind OpenBSD)

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Maksym Sheremet
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 Charlie Eddy <charlie.e...@occipital.com> wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD Where from? > > However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers > OpenBSD to be old-school, in a negative sense. He

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Michael Price
If your programmer friend has any source code patches he would like to submit then I am sure the project would love to have them. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:58 PM Charlie Eddy <charlie.e...@occipital.com> wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, sin

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Jeroen
://h3artbl33d.nl/blog/?p=15 And yeah, it's WordPress. Sorry about that. Regards, J. On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 13:41 -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list > some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage

considering a move to OpenBSD

2018-02-08 Thread Charlie Eddy
hello misc, I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers OpenBSD to be old-school, in a negative sense. He recommends Arch Linux