Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-28 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Jaap Bosman said: > In man mail(1) it is not clear to me that mail(1) is not for use outside > a local network. Strictly speaking mail(1) is not for use over network at all: it reads local mailbox and sends mail via MTA. It does not do networking on its own. > Why do I want to use mail(1) as an

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-28 Thread Jaap Bosman
Thank you all so much for your answers. In man mail(1) it is not clear to me that mail(1) is not for use outside a local network. In http://openbsd.das.ufsc.br/nl/mail.html It says: " Many subscribers and developers read their mail on text-based mailers (mail(1), emacs, Mutt) " I do understand

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-27 Thread Craig Skinner
G'day Eric, On 2016-02-26 Fri 14:52 PM |, Eric Furman wrote: > > What Nick was trying to say was, "If you do not understand internet > e-mail from end-to-end please do not run an e-mail server." Yes. > There is a lot more to it than just installing some packages. Yes, he'll need at least: *)

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-27 Thread Roderick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: But it's shit [pipes in mail(1)]. You cannot say "rawpipe" etc. It is not flexible, not configurable, it is dumb and cannot really be used for anything real, It is very flexible. The inflated programs with cool features do not allow you to use the

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > But it's shit. You cannot say "rawpipe" etc. It is not flexible, > not configurable, it is dumb and cannot really be used for > anything real, except by outer intelligence (like signature mark > lines which an

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread lists
Fri, 26 Feb 2016 22:25:41 +0200 cho...@jtan.com > Eric Furman writes: > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016, at 09:22 AM, Артур Истомин wrote: > > > With this approach, we will have only one email provider. His name is > > > Google. > > > Spam and other black sides of today email system is price we pay for > >

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Roderick wrote: |On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |>|client I feel like. mail(1) was a bit too tedious and limited for typical |>|use. |> |> Unfortunately i (as the maintainer of the source) have to agree. |> So it is. Especially regarding interactive use: no

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Roderick
I wrote: What is not clear to me, is, if mail (1) for sending emails always do smptp to localhost:25 (or :587?) , if one can change this. Perhaps there is something to do. It was a lapsus. I knew the solution. mail (1) uses sendmail. And I did configure sendmail to use gmail smtp. There is

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Roderick
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |client I feel like. mail(1) was a bit too tedious and limited for typical |use. Unfortunately i (as the maintainer of the source) have to agree. So it is. Especially regarding interactive use: no way to access message MIME parts directly, and no

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Артур Истомин wrote: |On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 07:54:20PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: |> On 02/25/16 17:01, Jaap Bosman wrote: |>> Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. Hallo! |> No, really, you don't. It may be that he is right, you know. But if you

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
"trondd" wrote: |On Fri, February 26, 2016 10:55 am, Joel wrote: |> Unfortunately, it isn't in the ports tree, but there is a slightly |> updated version of mail called heirloom-mail. That is heirloom-mailx. |s-nail is a fork and is in ports. I went through this

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread chohag
Eric Furman writes: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016, at 09:22 AM, Артур Истомин wrote: > > With this approach, we will have only one email provider. His name is > > Google. > > Spam and other black sides of today email system is price we pay for > > decentralized system. And it's worth it. > > What Nick

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Furman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016, at 09:22 AM, Артур Истомин wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 07:54:20PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > > On 02/25/16 17:01, Jaap Bosman wrote: > > > Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. > > > > No, really, you don't. > > > > > In man mail(1) I read nothing about

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread trondd
On Fri, February 26, 2016 10:55 am, Joel wrote: > Unfortunately, it isn't in the ports tree, but there is a slightly > updated version of mail called heirloom-mail. s-nail is a fork and is in ports. I went through this same exercise and quickly switched to IMAP so I can read my mail from

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Joel
Unfortunately, it isn't in the ports tree, but there is a slightly updated version of mail called heirloom-mail. It can do IMAP and also authenticate for outgoing mail. I think it would compile on OpenBSD without much effort. --Joel On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 11:02:13PM +0100, Jaap Bosman wrote:

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Артур Истомин
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 07:54:20PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote: > On 02/25/16 17:01, Jaap Bosman wrote: > > Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. > > No, really, you don't. > > > In man mail(1) I read nothing about configure mail to send and receive > > email from outside. I would

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Philippe Meunier
Jaap Bosman wrote: >Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. [...] >I guess email addresses have to be listed somewhere? where? How? >ISP adresses and POP or whatever should be listed somewhere? POP is obsolete. Instead you want to use IMAP to read emails from your ISP and SMTP to

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-26 Thread Craig Skinner
Hi Jaap, On 2016-02-25 Thu 23:02 PM |, Jaap Bosman wrote: > Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. > In man mail(1) I read nothing about configure mail to send and receive > email from outside. It reads mail that is already on the machine it is on. See the man page's -f flag and

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-25 Thread Nick Holland
On 02/25/16 17:01, Jaap Bosman wrote: > Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. No, really, you don't. > In man mail(1) I read nothing about configure mail to send and receive > email from outside. I would like to find how to configure mail(1). Step 1: you need to read the first

Re: how to send email via Mail

2016-02-25 Thread Nick
http://www.openbsd.org/opensmtpd/faq/example1.html Original Message Subject: how to send email via Mail Local Time: February 25, 2016 10:02 pm UTC Time: February 25, 2016 10:02 PM From: j...@xs4all.nl To: misc@openbsd.org Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client

how to send email via Mail

2016-02-25 Thread Jaap Bosman
Hallo, I would like to use mail(1) for email client. In man mail(1) I read nothing about configure mail to send and receive email from outside. I would like to find how to configure mail(1). I guess email addresses have to be listed somewhere? where? How? ISP adresses and POP or whatever should be