Re: Backup disk over USB good idea??

2009-12-18 Thread Edho P Arief
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Mauro Rezzonico l...@ch23.org wrote: Joakim Aronius wrote: I have an old home server which ran out of disk space I added a big disk over USB which I use for backup (mounted on /backup). Well don't do that! Mount under /usr/backup, or /var/backup, or

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2009-12-18 Thread Télé Loisirs
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Root file system is growing strangely

2009-12-18 Thread Daniel Zhelev
Hello list. I`ve set up a little bash script to tell me when some file system is over 95% full and after a month I got a mail about my root file system ( / ) after log in I sow that the root file system is over 100%. That is fine I tried to do a search for big and nasty files and so on but after a

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Igor Sobrado
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:07 AM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: On 18/12/2009, at 1:26 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote: Real men use cat. :-) real men use COPY CON PROGRAM.EXE real men use EDIT/TECO.

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Han Boetes
I just compiled mg statically and put it in /bin, which is rather simple: Add 'LDFLAGS+=-static' somewhere in the makefile with your favourite editor. And then run: $ make $ strip mg $ ldd mg $ ls -l mg $ sudo install mg /bin/mg 400kb! that barely larger than a dynamic vi :-) # Han

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Paul M
On 18/12/2009, at 7:09 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: Brad Tilley wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:12 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: stuff Just out of curiosity, my emergencies usually involve having to edit /etc/fstab that has entries that no longer apply after moving disks

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:28:25 +0100 Igor Sobrado igor.sobr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:07 AM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: On 18/12/2009, at 1:26 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote: Real men use cat. :-) real men use COPY CON PROGRAM.EXE real men use EDIT/TECO.

Re: BSD and Active Directory?

2009-12-18 Thread Joakim Dellrud
Okay, I have understood that there is some difference between a solution and another. But what I need to do is to pull a user with the unix attributes in a 2k3 ad server to a bsd machine. It is already working seamless in a centos enviroment. But there is the nsswitch and pam. My problem is that I

Re: Root file system is growing strangely

2009-12-18 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:36:46AM +0200, Daniel Zhelev wrote: Hello list. I`ve set up a little bash script to tell me when some file system is over 95% full and after a month I got a mail about my root file system ( / ) after log in I sow that the root file system is over 100%. That is fine

Re: Backup disk over USB good idea??

2009-12-18 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 02:51:34PM +0700, Edho P Arief wrote: can you please enlighten me on why that's a bad thing? Filling up / can be more annoying than filling up /usr. It's better to make sure your mounts work and not try to work around broken systems, though.

Re: No RTF_UP after route change to an interface that is up

2009-12-18 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:17:12PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2009-12-15, Doran Mori dhm...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like the last road block in my router project is going to be similar to Vladimir Kirillov's problem. In my case I'm having a downed link layer host route take

Leiloes completamente incriveis - IPHONE por €30,97!!!

2009-12-18 Thread Bidoloo.pt
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Unofficial OpenBSD 4.6 USB installer on LiveUSB-OpenBSD page!

2009-12-18 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
Dear all, My friend wanted it. I wanted it too just for fun. So I did it. Please remember, it is 100% unofficial. This project is not officially or unofficially endorsed by OpenBSD in any way. So use it at your own risk! That said, I am quite certain that many of you will benefit in a big way

Re: No RTF_UP after route change to an interface that is up

2009-12-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009/12/18 12:31, Claudio Jeker wrote: So it seems that any host routes, even RTP_DOWN, take priority over higher priority net routes for the same address. Host routes are allways more specific then network routes (even /32 ones). So they will used in that case. Currently the lookup

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Eugene Yunak
2009/12/18 Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:28:25 +0100 Igor Sobrado igor.sobr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:07 AM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: On 18/12/2009, at 1:26 PM, Raymond Lillard wrote: Real men use cat. :-) real men

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Dale Rahn
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:09:41AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: Brad Tilley wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:12 -0800, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Brad == Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com writes: Brad I use ed in emergencies when /usr is inaccessible, but I'm

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Nick Bender
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Eugene Yunak e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/18 Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:28:25 +0100 Igor Sobrado igor.sobr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:07 AM, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: On 18/12/2009, at

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 07:47:18PM -0500, Brad Tilley wrote: I use ed in emergencies when /usr is inaccessible, but I'm a lot more comfortable with vi. Will a static vi ever live in /bin? Helping someone use ed remotely, who has never used ed, when I myself don't use it regularly is always an

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Internet Retard
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Eugene Yunak e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Real men use punch cards. Paper tape is acceptable for backups... You mean real *Internet* men. In person, these men (for lack of a better word) are easily de-assified and can be made to cry. However, they are fearless

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Chris Bennett
Matthew Szudzik wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 07:47:18PM -0500, Brad Tilley wrote: I use ed in emergencies when /usr is inaccessible, but I'm a lot more comfortable with vi. Will a static vi ever live in /bin? Helping someone use ed remotely, who has never used ed, when I myself don't use

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Nick Bender
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Internet Retard webret...@live.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Eugene Yunak e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Real men use punch cards. Paper tape is acceptable for backups... You mean real *Internet* men. In person, these men (for lack of a better word)

Handling HTTP virtual hosts with relayd

2009-12-18 Thread James Stocks
Hello everyone, I'm presently using Apache to reverse-proxy HTTP connections through to our Microsoft IIS servers so that we don't have to expose IIS directly to Internet hosts. Recently, I've been testing relayd in this role. Apache can reverse-proxy requests for several internal HTTP servers

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread ropers
Matthew Szudzik wrote: I would like to learn to use sed, however, I did not find that the man page was sufficient as a tutorial. I was not able to find any sed tutorials that were consistent with OpenBSD's variation. 2009/12/18 Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz: Does anyone know of

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:30:13AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: I would like to learn to use sed, however, I did not find that the man page was sufficient as a tutorial. I was not able to find any I learned sed from the book Sed Awk by Dougherty and Robbins. http://amazon.com/dp/1565922255 I

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Chris Bennett
ropers wrote: Matthew Szudzik wrote: I would like to learn to use sed, however, I did not find that the man page was sufficient as a tutorial. I was not able to find any sed tutorials that were consistent with OpenBSD's variation. 2009/12/18 Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz:

Re: OpenBSD 4.6-stable on IBM x3550 freezes on boot until key is pressed

2009-12-18 Thread Rouslan Iskhakov
Tried to boot i386, same result. Rouslan - Original Message - From: Mauro Rezzonico l...@ch23.org To: misc misc@openbsd.org Sent: P'P5QP2P5QP3, 17 PP5P:P0P1QQ 2009 P3 19:06:40 (GMT+0200) Auto-Detected Subject: Re: OpenBSD 4.6-stable on IBM x3550 freezes on boot until key is pressed

Re: OpenBSD 4.6-stable on IBM x3550 freezes on boot until key is pressed

2009-12-18 Thread Rouslan Iskhakov
Hi, Disabled Proc Performance States, nothing changed... Regards, Rouslan - Original Message - From: Imre Oolberg i...@auul.pri.ee To: Rouslan Iskhakov rous...@rshell.net Sent: P'P5QP2P5QP3, 17 PP5P:P0P1QQ 2009 P3 19:16:43 (GMT+0200) Auto-Detected Subject: Re: OpenBSD 4.6-stable on

Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread nixlists
Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten their security? Thanks.

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Anders Langworthy
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote: ropers wrote: I've personally thus far never bumped into any particular behaviours that would differentiate OpenBSD's sed(1) command syntax from that of other implementations. (That could be because of my

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Brad Tilley
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:25 +, nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten their

Re: Unofficial OpenBSD 4.6 USB installer on LiveUSB-OpenBSD page!

2009-12-18 Thread Nick Holland
Girish Venkatachalam wrote: ... http://liveusb-openbsd.sf.net and direct download link here: https://sf.net/projects/liveusb-openbsd/files/usb-inst46.bin/download ... As to how I did this, that is an altogether different matter. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#flashmemLive Nick.

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Jesus Sanchez
El 18/12/2009 20:50, Brad Tilley escribis: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:25 +, nixlistsnixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread ropers
2009/12/18 Brad Tilley misc@openbsd.org: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:25 +, nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread ropers
PS: I don't actually know to what extent the LSO issues apply to OpenBSD, as there is only limited Flash compatibility, but anyway. 2009/12/18 ropers rop...@gmail.com: 2009/12/18 Brad Tilley misc@openbsd.org: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:25 +, nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. People on

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Marco Peereboom
firefox + adsuck On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:25:13PM +, nixlists wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten

Encrypt entire filesystem with AES 256bit. Softraid tutorial?

2009-12-18 Thread Andres Salazar
Hello, Iam looking for ways to encrypt my entire filesystem, but it must be with AES 256bits... Ive bene searching and I deduce that the only option I have is using softraid, however iam unable to find any tutorial or guide. Anybody know if this is possible, if I have any other option (with 256

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM, nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten their

Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?

2009-12-18 Thread Lars Nooden
Ted Unangst wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: So everything under X should be considered available to everything else under X. I presume new models for displays, or new ways to get some kind of privilege separation for X, have been discussed to

Re: Encrypt entire filesystem with AES 256bit. Softraid tutorial?

2009-12-18 Thread Brad Tilley
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:18 -0600, Andres Salazar ndrsslz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Iam looking for ways to encrypt my entire filesystem, but it must be with AES 256bits... Ive bene searching and I deduce that the only option I have is using softraid, however iam unable to find any tutorial or

Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?

2009-12-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: I'm not sure what you're after, but two conceivable starting points would be the man pages for xauth and XSelectInput. Those help. I'm trying to get an idea, even an abstract one, of how individual

Re: Encrypt entire filesystem with AES 256bit. Softraid tutorial?

2009-12-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Andres Salazar ndrsslz...@gmail.com wrote: Iam looking for ways to encrypt my entire filesystem, but it must be with AES 256bits... Ive bene searching and I deduce that the only option I have is using softraid, however iam unable to find any tutorial or guide.

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Anders Langworthy wrote: Nope, I ran into many pages like these. OpenBSD doesn't support sed -i GNU sed's file-in-place editing is a convenience, but not having it won't hamper your ability to learn to use sed. This is particularly true here, as that tutorial makes no

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, nixlists wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten their security? I send mail to a demon

Re: BSD and Active Directory?

2009-12-18 Thread Nigel Taylor
I use password authentication to login with an AD account into a windows terminal services platform. All windows platforms are 2003 R2, then ssh using gssapi to get to OpenBSD - no password required, or the same to Solaris 10, Red Hat v4 platforms. I use a modified version of putty from Quest that

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread nixlists
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: firefox + adsuck What is your opnion on Chrome, OpenBSD gurus? Okay we all know about it's privacy and identity leakage concerns. It's designed by Google with this built-in - they want to know everything about you and

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:30:13AM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: I would like to learn to use sed, however, I did not find that the man page was sufficient as a tutorial. I was not able to find any sed tutorials that were consistent with OpenBSD's variation. Does anyone know of any sed

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, nixlists wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Matthew == Matthew Szudzik mszud...@andrew.cmu.edu writes: Matthew ed, sed, and vi are three of the most important Unix utilities, and Matthew there's no excuse for not learning all three. That's because they all Matthew use the same commands and syntax. If you know how to use one of them,

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Marco Peereboom
All your ads are belong to us. Max Headroom might have an opinion too. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:12:14PM +, nixlists wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: firefox + adsuck What is your opnion on Chrome, OpenBSD gurus? Okay we all know about

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Chris Bennett
Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, nixlists wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten their security?

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Internet Retard
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:24:25 -0800 Subject: Re: Web Browsers From: sparcta...@gmail.com To: ajacou...@bsdfrog.org CC: misc@openbsd.org On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, nixlists wrote: Hi. People on this list are

Re: Handling HTTP virtual hosts with relayd

2009-12-18 Thread Ben Calvert
This is what squid is for. On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:01 AM, James Stocks wrote: Hello everyone, I'm presently using Apache to reverse-proxy HTTP connections through to our Microsoft IIS servers so that we don't have to expose IIS directly to Internet hosts. Recently, I've been testing relayd

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Randal L. Schwartz wrote on Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 03:27:07PM -0800: Everything I used to know about sed, I've forgotten once learning Perl. That's bad: sed is still needed, see /usr/src/distrib/miniroot/list for a striking example. That said, liking and using Perl a lot, the same happens to me,

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Bob Beck
2009/12/18 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: firefox + adsuck What is your opnion on Chrome, OpenBSD gurus? Okay we all know about it's privacy and identity leakage concerns. It's designed by Google with this built-in -

Spooky spamd happening

2009-12-18 Thread Rod Whitworth
I have a bunch of client machines that do their daily/weekly/monthly reports to a dedicated mailbox here. I notice things like a missing host or a low uptime figure etc and can talk to their owners about what problems may be. Works fine and did today but there is something spooky happening:

Re: Unofficial OpenBSD 4.6 USB installer on LiveUSB-OpenBSD page!

2009-12-18 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
No you got it wrong. You are supposed to say install from disk (instead of install from cd0) Already mounted? [no] (Press enter) And the sets will all show up. Try again. All sets are there in the USB stick but you have to follow a slightly different procedure. -Girish On Fri, Dec 18,

Re: Web Browsers

2009-12-18 Thread Christopher Linn
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 07:25:13PM +, nixlists wrote: Hi. People on this list are security-conscious. I wonder what browsers they use? What browsers do you consider more secure than others? Granted, they're all full of all kinds of holes, but what do you do to tighten their security?

OpenBSD book

2009-12-18 Thread Eric Furman
Does anyone have any info on this book? http://www.amazon.com/OpenBSD-Frederic-P-Miller/dp/6130089511/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1261193825sr=1-6 The title is simply OpenBSD. I ask because it seems to be pretty new, Published in October of 2009, and most of the other OBSD books I've seen are

Re: smtpd(8) local delivery failure - help needed with diagnosis

2009-12-18 Thread Adam Thompson
In article 20091217185401.ga13...@bramka.kerhand.co.uk, j...@kerhand.co.uk says... On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:45:25AM -0600, Adam Thompson wrote: r...@server:~# cat /etc/mailer.conf | grep -v '^#' sendmail/usr/sbin/smtpd send-mail /usr/sbin/smtpctl mailq

Re: OpenBSD book

2009-12-18 Thread Bryan Irvine
It does give very little. However it does give the ISBN number which I googled and at least found the cover: http://www.wikio.com/books/openbsd-6130089511-9575144,b.html Seems like maybe an interesting geek coffee table book. Except it pretty much seems impossible to find. On Fri, Dec 18,

Re: OpenBSD book

2009-12-18 Thread ropers
2009/12/19 Eric Furman ericfur...@fastmail.net: Does anyone have any info on this book? http://www.amazon.com/OpenBSD-Frederic-P-Miller/dp/6130089511/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1261193825sr=1-6 The title is simply OpenBSD. I ask because it seems to be pretty new, Published in October of

Re: vi in /bin

2009-12-18 Thread Paul M
On 19/12/2009, at 12:27 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Everything I used to know about sed, I've forgotten once learning Perl. There's really no excuse for not knowing Perl and Python these days. And if you need to learn Perl, I can recommend a good book (or two :). You can do anything in

[Programme TV] Samedi 19 Décembre 2009

2009-12-18 Thread Télé Loisirs
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