Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Thomas Alexander Frederiksen
Harry Putnam wrote: > Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>Yes, English is not my native tongue, but I think the meaning of >>"donations" and the link to that is understood in may languages no? > > > Since donation is so well understood maybe your english good enough to > you show me whe

How can I delete apache included in the base system?

2006-03-09 Thread Diogin
Hello, every one: I am sorry to ask thus stupid question. I have read the FAQ, but I couldn't find any way to delete apache totally. Now I want to use apache 2.0.55, but I'm worry about conflict. Can some one help me? Thans very much! Diogin from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Julian Fondren
On 3/9/06, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Give it a rest Greg, you've been outclassed. Best to just hush. Oh noes, he was outclassed by someone whose primary contribution was a sneering "look at all this irrelevant conversation, then?" This

Ralink USB

2006-03-09 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
Today I received a D-Link DWL-G122 . Unfortunately it is not a v. B1 - it is C1. If the box (i386) is booted on a 3.9beta #617 with the device plugged in it gets a dmesg line that says: Ralink 802.11 bg WLAN Class 0/0, rev 2.00/0/01 addr 2, uhub 1 port 2 not configured I expected the last two wor

Thanks for an older donation...

2006-03-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
I would like to thank whoever it is that (perhaps a year or two ago) sent me a Japanese Sun type 6 USB keyboard. I have experienced very few things as painful to use in my life, and it is making me more humble.

ath0 prelim report

2006-03-09 Thread Greg Thomas
I received a Cisco Aironet 802.11a/b/g AIR-CB21AG-A-K9 in the mail today and so far it works with my 802.11b hostap box if I lock it into mode 11b. I've got another a/b/g card coming tomorrow so I'll be able to test 802.11a this weekend. Even if I don't get 802.11a working with it this card works

Re: what happened to union fs ?

2006-03-09 Thread Damien Miller
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Jean-Yves Boisiaud wrote: > hello, > > in OBSD 3.8, union filesystem (mount_union(8)) has been removed. > > http://www.openbsd.org/plus38.html does not say nothing about that. > > Will union fs be back ? Not in its previous form, and so far no one has expressed an interest

Re: Esix filesystem

2006-03-09 Thread Ted Unangst
On 3/9/06, Aaron Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a system that was running Esix 4.0.4 and it won't boot anymore. > I want to pull the scsi card and drives put them in my openbsd 3.8 > machine move over the important files and programs and then use them > with the compat_svr4 stuff. T

Re: crash: savecore - saves core dump every day?

2006-03-09 Thread Nick Holland
Stefan Drexleri wrote: Hi, from the faq: "Upon reboot, savecore(8)will attempt to save the contents of the swap partition to a file in /var/crash" savecore would be called by /etc/rc. So which criterias must be fulfilled to make core dump upon reboot? Does savecore look for special file names a

Esix filesystem

2006-03-09 Thread Aaron Martinez
I have a system that was running Esix 4.0.4 and it won't boot anymore. I want to pull the scsi card and drives put them in my openbsd 3.8 machine move over the important files and programs and then use them with the compat_svr4 stuff. The problem is I don't know how to mount the drives on my

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Barnett
Greg Thomas wrote: > > Any days that I know I'll be meeting co-workers from around the > country I wear my Blowfish polo. Either the Blowfish or the "Secure > by Default" always catches a few eyes and then I'm off with the spiel. > One of these days I'm going to get a cash donation out of someon

Trouble with ephemeral port 65534

2006-03-09 Thread Lee Sheridan
I have several IRIX machines behind an OpenBSD 3.7 firewall. I'm seeing trouble when they initiate an outbound FTP connection with a source port of 65534 (which IRIX seems to chose quite often) Running tcpdump on the internal interface, I see SYN packets from the host, however, those SYN packets

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/9/06, Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > May be a new T-Shirt to ware at the office in front of all the manager > > that said clearly in the back ( so they don't need to look at you in the > > eye to see the writing ) that said, "OUR business benefit from high > >

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Craig
Daniel Ouellet wrote: May be a new T-Shirt to ware at the office in front of all the manager that said clearly in the back ( so they don't need to look at you in the eye to see the writing ) that said, "OUR business benefit from high protection from OpenBSD, be equally kind and give back!"

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Ouellet
May be a new T-Shirt to ware at the office in front of all the manager that said clearly in the back ( so they don't need to look at you in the eye to see the writing ) that said, "OUR business benefit from high protection from OpenBSD, be equally kind and give back!" With the BIG URL on th

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
"Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 3/9/06, yary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. > So you think people who are willing to donate to someone would never > go to the recipient's home page to see what they're all about? I

Re: what happened to union fs ?

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Jean-Yves Boisiaud wrote: hello, in OBSD 3.8, union filesystem (mount_union(8)) has been removed. http://www.openbsd.org/plus38.html does not say nothing about that. Will union fs be back ? If not, why ? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=110227285729560&w=2

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Chris
yary wrote: You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. Yes it's easy for someone looking for it to find it- but how about the businessman whose sysadmin just said "we should look at openBSD 3.9"- he'll search for & see that 3.9 release page, and not know that his departme

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/9/06, yary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. > Yes it's easy for someone looking for it to find it- but how about the > businessman whose sysadmin just said "we should look at openBSD 3.9"- > he'll search for & see that 3.9 release

Re: what happened to union fs ?

2006-03-09 Thread eric
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 23:48:25 +0100, Jean-Yves Boisiaud proclaimed... > http://www.openbsd.org/plus38.html does not say nothing about that. > > Will union fs be back ? > Just cuz. Go read the cvs logs.

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Ouellet
yary wrote: If each release page contained a blurb: "This release was made possible by private donations and businesses' monetary support. Please click here to see how you can help fund developer's work for your next release, OpenBSD 4.0" (or whatever the next release is)- it would raise awarenes

2 issues with usb external disks

2006-03-09 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, i am not sure if i should post these into gnats, so i offer them for public scrutiny first... 1. when attaching an external usb hard drive, it is identified and everything is dandy, but the moment it appears in dmesg, it spins down. and so the hotplugd script does nothing there is

what happened to union fs ?

2006-03-09 Thread Jean-Yves Boisiaud
hello, in OBSD 3.8, union filesystem (mount_union(8)) has been removed. http://www.openbsd.org/plus38.html does not say nothing about that. Will union fs be back ? If not, why ? Thanks J-Yves

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
yary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. Well said. Thanks yary... I was getting a little riled with those several posters who were so quick to show how sharp they are about finding where donations info is kept.

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread yary
You want more donations, you put the donations link in more places. Yes it's easy for someone looking for it to find it- but how about the businessman whose sysadmin just said "we should look at openBSD 3.9"- he'll search for & see that 3.9 release page, and not know that his department is about to

Re: Issues with ami / LSI Logic MegaRAID 320-1.

2006-03-09 Thread K WESTERBACK
--- RV Tec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > Something weird going on here. > > I am using a Opteron 250 server with a Supermicro > H8DA8, and LSI Logic > MegaRAID 320-1. > > Using OpenBSD 3.8 everything works OK, but with a > CURRENT the > header/sectors information does not seem to be

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
"Greg Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where else would someone look? http://www.microsoft.com? > > You have serious issues with the obvious, huh? You really need to pull you head out of your behind once or twice a day get some fresh air. Jesus you'd think this was a major happening her

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Peter Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Theo de Raadt wrote: >> For instance, I would approximate >> that the sale of every T-shirt we make probably does not pay for the >> electricity used in the machine room. It's about $5000 a year. > > Which works out, quite conveniently, to about $100/week.

Re: multible MACs?

2006-03-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/09 21:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hostname.NIC allows to set aliases for the Interface. > Is it possible to set an alias MAC-Adress too? No.

OpenBGPd with dynamic keying (ipsec ike support)

2006-03-09 Thread Florian Daniel Otel
Hello all, I have the following question (== misunderstanding from my part?) w.r.t. openbgp support for dynamic keying: I was living under the impression (hope?) that the said support means not only that the keys for the BGP peering session per se are established dynamically but also that the SPD

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Greg Thomas
On 3/9/06, Harry Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > First... back off a bit folks... I was clearly talking about this > thread and the URL Theo introduced. Is it a horrible suprise it can > be found at www.openbsd.org? > Where else would someone look

multible MACs?

2006-03-09 Thread sebastian . rother
Hello everybody, hostname.NIC allows to set aliases for the Interface. Is it possible to set an alias MAC-Adress too? E.g. a NIC should handle 10 IPs but it would be easy for everybody to see that just one Box manages all these IPs because ll those IPs have the same MAC. Are there any mechanism

ipsec.conf question

2006-03-09 Thread Marc Peters
hello all, i am using -current as of 24.02.2006 and made a realese for my other machines. i tried the ipsec tutorial which was posted on undeadly.org. i have to go with one gateway which has a dynamic ip because it is an adsl-connection which is disconnected after 24 hours. when i try to fire

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yes, English is not my native tongue, but I think the meaning of > > "donations" and the link to that is understood in may languages no? > > Since donation is so well understood maybe your english good enough to > you show me where `donation' appear on Theos' URL. Poi

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jason Dixon wrote: >> On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>> I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in >>> this thread. >> You're kidding, right? The 2nd link on the OpenBSD page is >> "Donations". >> > > Look

Re: Why packets are not blocked

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > man tcpdump && tcpdump -tttner /var/log/pflog hehe ... well put and thanks... nice.

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: First... back off a bit folks... I was clearly talking about this thread and the URL Theo introduced. Is it a horrible suprise it can be found at www.openbsd.org? >> I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in >> this thread. Did

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Considering your input to this thread about donations wouldn't it be > smart to make it a little easier to find the donations pages? > > I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in > this thread. Donations can be made in exactly the same place where orders for our items a

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Jason Dixon wrote: On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in this thread. You're kidding, right? The 2nd link on the OpenBSD page is "Donations". Look at the domain name. newsguy.com. Media News people never read st

Re: Why packets are not blocked

2006-03-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
man tcpdump && tcpdump -tttner /var/log/pflog Harry Putnam wrote on Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 12:39:02PM -0600: > "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > You are getting good commentary already so I'm asking a lamer noob > about how you got the output below. tcpdump? [...] >> Mar 07 20:30:43.516434

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Jason Dixon
On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in this thread. You're kidding, right? The 2nd link on the OpenBSD page is "Donations". -- Jason Dixon DixonGroup Consulting http://www.dixongroup.net

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Sean Cody
On 9-Mar-06, at 1:06 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Considering your input to this thread about donations wouldn't it be smart to make it a little easier to find the donations pages? I see nothing about where to do donations there or anywhere in this thread. It is pretty obvious where to look:

Re: Donated hardware.

2006-03-09 Thread Craig
Have replied to Theo personally. I hold my hands up to 'lashing out' a bit there, on a bad hair day. I'm eating humble pie, with my tail back between my legs! ;) Please keep the mention on the donations page, it's an honour. Best regards, Craig Craig wrote: I donated a fibre gigabit card, wh

Re: pre-orders

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have activated the pre-orders for OpenBSD 3.9... > More information can be found at > > http://www.openbsd.org/39.html > > There's a T-shirt and a poster too... > > (The whole subject of the artwork will become more clear in a while, > as we mak

Re: Why packets are not blocked

2006-03-09 Thread Harry Putnam
"Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] You are getting good commentary already so I'm asking a lamer noob q about how you got the output below. tcpdump? > Here is the tail of the pflog file while she is on > > Mar 07 20:30:43.516434 rule 14/0(match): pass out on dc0: > 67.174.79.141.60805 > 6

Donated hardware.

2006-03-09 Thread Craig
I donated a fibre gigabit card, which I would imagine had arrived by now. When I sent it, I enclosed a hand written note, asking for confirmation of receipt. I'm not after a link or mention on the donations page, if I'd wanted that I'd have donated #50 and been done with it. I also emailed toda

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Paul Ouderkirk
Here's a week on me too: Your order currently is: -> USD $100.00 DONATION to the OpenBSD Project Paul. On 3/9/06, Peter Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Theo de Raadt wrote: > > For instance, I would approximate > > that the sale of every T-shirt we make probably does not pay for the > > elect

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Miod Vallat
> Here is what i am trying on my local system: > > # tip -v -19200 ttya > connected Default speed unless changed is 9600 bps, not 19200. Also, you might want to try cu instead of tip (cu -e -o -s 9600 -l /dev/ttya) in case your tip configuration is wrong. Miod

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
> However, I don't think that's the gist of the message. OpenBSD is being > used by large companies in significant roles and few or none are kicking > in money. If anyone here works for/with such a company and can influence > them then consider trying to get them to send money to the project. If

crash: savecore - saves core dump every day?

2006-03-09 Thread Stefan Drexleri
Hi, from the faq: "Upon reboot, savecore(8)will attempt to save the contents of the swap partition to a file in /var/crash" savecore would be called by /etc/rc. So which criterias must be fulfilled to make core dump upon reboot? Does savecore look for special file names at special places? Who mak

Re: pkg_add -r problem

2006-03-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/03/09 10:16, Bob Bostwick (Lists) wrote: > I think there is a "." missing in gd-2.0.33p2 package? Here is the actual error message: > Can't install gd-2.0.33p2: lib not found fontconfig.3.0 This is part of X which is required for the gd-2 package (see ports@ archives). You need to

pkg_add -r problem

2006-03-09 Thread Bob Bostwick \(Lists\)
I think there is a "." missing in gd-2.0.33p2 package? pkg_add -r -F update -F updatedepends -q gd-2.0.33p2 Can't install gd-2.0.33p2: lib not found fontconfig.3.0 Even by looking in the dependency tree: jpeg-6bp3, png-1.2.8, libiconv-1.9.2p3 Maybe i

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Roger Neth Jr
On 3/9/06, Gustavo Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok! Sorry, here is my dmesg: > > console is keyboard/display > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > Copyright (c) 1995-2005 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http:/

pppoe (through pcn) stopped working in mid-February

2006-03-09 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello, I was following -current with my home gateway on a dual-CPU HP Kayak XAs (full dmesg attached), but since mid-February I'm unable to do it anymore, because when I boot a newly compiled kernel, I get these repeating messages: Mar 9 15:31:59 gate /bsd: pppoe0: phase network Mar 9 15:31:59

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Shane J Pearson
On 2006.03.10, at 1:29 AM, Craig wrote: When the new edition of Artymiak's pf book comes out, I'll get that through Wim, also. Anyone heard any news about Jacek's new book? It's supposed to be put out by O'reilly still? I've been eagerly awaiting it. Shane

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Rios
Ok! Sorry, here is my dmesg: console is keyboard/display Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2005 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #607: Sat Sep 10 16:03

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Darrin Chandler
Chris wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Yet almost all of our donations really do come from individuals, and almost none from companies using our software. Even though there are many many companies doing so. Some companies are small, but there are also quite large ones. And banks. Government ins

Re: fdisk / signature: 0xAA55

2006-03-09 Thread Stefan Drexleri
2006/3/9, Paul de Weerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > This signature is represented (in binary) as 0b1010101001010101. The > alternating bit pattern was thought to be a protection against certain > failures (drive or controller). > > Of course, this is an i386ism (also present on amd64 I believe). Lots

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Craig
Have ordered two t-shirts and will be ordering 3.9 CDs in the near future. When the new edition of Artymiak's pf book comes out, I'll get that through Wim, also. Hope that helps, Craig

Issues with ami / LSI Logic MegaRAID 320-1.

2006-03-09 Thread RV Tec
Folks, Something weird going on here. I am using a Opteron 250 server with a Supermicro H8DA8, and LSI Logic MegaRAID 320-1. Using OpenBSD 3.8 everything works OK, but with a CURRENT the header/sectors information does not seem to be accurate. Although the total size is OK, looks like I am

Re: fdisk / signature: 0xAA55

2006-03-09 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 02:44:10PM +0100, Stefan Drexleri wrote: | Hi, | | when installing OpenBSD fdisk utility does extra show selected disk's MBR | signature 0xAA55. | | Why does it do? Do more MBR signatures exist? Or is this only for | verification of disk's mbr health? The 0xAA55 signature i

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Chris
Theo de Raadt wrote: I would like to remind our community that our project lives and breathes because of the sale of CDs and the receipt of donations. In the last few years a few very large donations have allowed our hackathons to happen, but other than that we are always digging ourself a bigge

fdisk / signature: 0xAA55

2006-03-09 Thread Stefan Drexleri
Hi, when installing OpenBSD fdisk utility does extra show selected disk's MBR signature 0xAA55. Why does it do? Do more MBR signatures exist? Or is this only for verification of disk's mbr health? greetings

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Diana Eichert
don't send attachments to the list, they get removed.

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Gustavo Rios wrote: > Hey folks, > > I am trying to connect two sun boxes by means of serial console and > could not. This is my session output: > > # cu -l /dev/cua00 -s 9600 > /dev/cua00: Device not configured > link down > # > > Here is attached my dmesg. Not! ;-) Anywa

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Miod Vallat
> I am trying to connect two sun boxes by means of serial console and > could not. This is my session output: > > # cu -l /dev/cua00 -s 9600 > /dev/cua00: Device not configured > link down Check the relevant serial port manual page (zstty, com, sabtty) for the device names. Not having seen the dme

Re: serial console

2006-03-09 Thread Gustavo Rios
Hey folks, I am trying to connect two sun boxes by means of serial console and could not. This is my session output: # cu -l /dev/cua00 -s 9600 /dev/cua00: Device not configured link down # Here is attached my dmesg. 2006/2/28, Diana Eichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Gustavo

Re: Need suggestion for a graphics tablet

2006-03-09 Thread Thordur I. Bjornsson
Andris Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu 9.Mar'06 at 8:39:32 -0300 > Hi, I want to buy graphics tablet, and would like to know which has > better support under OpenBSD. In case I'm using the wrong word, this > is what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet > > Thanks! Waco

Need suggestion for a graphics tablet

2006-03-09 Thread Andrés Delfino
Hi, I want to buy graphics tablet, and would like to know which has better support under OpenBSD. In case I'm using the wrong word, this is what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet Thanks!

ISO 10002 Guide for Customer Handling

2006-03-09 Thread Magda Ghareb
www.superegyptian.com ISO 10002 Guide for Customer Handling March 26 - 30, 2006 Held at Le Meridien Heliopolis Hotel

Re: Pre-orders for our releases.

2006-03-09 Thread Peter Lee
Theo de Raadt wrote: For instance, I would approximate that the sale of every T-shirt we make probably does not pay for the electricity used in the machine room. It's about $5000 a year. Which works out, quite conveniently, to about $100/week. So have the next week's juice on me: You

Re: Brain wash for live partition, or directory mirroring concept idea(s)?

2006-03-09 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Ted Unangst wrote: new link (same old code) http://gir.theapt.org/~tedu/nad.tgz Many thanks! Daniel

Re: Sun Ultra 1

2006-03-09 Thread Johan SANCHEZ
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:15:14 -0600 "Julian Fondren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/8/06, Gustavo Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another problem: I got X, but only with 8 bits of color. > > Unless the Ultra1 is more graphically advanced that the Ultra2, this > is all you will get. > Enjoy t