Re: GPRS/EDGE modems to use with a notebook

2007-11-03 Thread Kevin Cheng
Daniel, man pages from umsm, ubsa, ppp, .., also replies from obsd coders such as Felix, etc. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 6:06 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: GPRS/EDGE

Re: Installation troubles

2007-11-03 Thread Richard Toohey
On 3/11/2007, at 9:59 AM, Chris Zakelj wrote: Kenneth R Westerback wrote: ASC/ASCQ 0x11/0x06 would appear to mean CIRC Unrecovered Error. These values are listed in /usr/src/sys/scsi_base.c, line 1207 and following. The error text is left out of install kernels to save space. Kenneth

Re: OpenBSD 4.2 hardware recommendation

2007-11-03 Thread VP
If you can live w/o RAID, i recommend advantech.com or nexcom.com Network Security Appliance product lines. Appliance is not very good solution for us. We want buy one good server. Also I find no sense of CARP, because we will have old server as standby. IDS database will be placed on another

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/02 18:48, Sean Darby wrote: Thank you very much for the info! I appreciate it a lot. I've now updated my /etc/mail/trusted-users file with my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address (which is what I currently have in my from: field in my muttrc). Regarding the link you provided (on

Re: OpenBSD 4.2 hardware recommendation

2007-11-03 Thread Richard Toohey
So don't buy an over-the-top firewall ... and donate the difference to OpenBSD? 8-) On 3/11/2007, at 9:25 PM, VP wrote: If you can live w/o RAID, i recommend advantech.com or nexcom.com Network Security Appliance product lines. Appliance is not very good solution for us. We want buy one

Re: keeping OBSD up to date and secure throughout time

2007-11-03 Thread Nenhum_de_Nos
this made me curious. I did: bash-3.2# cat cvs.sh export [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs # src cd /usr/src cvs -d$CVSROOT checkout -rOPENBSD_4_2 -P src and compiled all. then I have. bash-3.2# dmesg | head OpenBSD 4.2-current (xxx) #5: Fri Nov 2 22:39:58 BRT 2007 [EMAIL

Re: BIS3780

2007-11-03 Thread Dorian Büttner
On Friday 02 November 2007 20:11:44 Stuart VanZee wrote: [...] Google, Yahoo, even that MSN search thing came up with SQUAT when I typed in BIS3780 so I am pretty sure that this is a futile effort but didn't think it would hurt to try here since I have tried everywhere else I can think of.

Re: OpenBSD 4.2 hardware recommendation

2007-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/03 00:20, VP wrote: It can be SPARC or x86. But vendors don't officially support OpenBSD with their hardware. We need tower server with 1 proccessor, 2 gigs of RAM, 2 SCSI disks and 2 power supply. Does anyone recommend brand server which supports OpenBSD? (in alphabetical order):

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/03 11:01, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote: type 'make openbsd-submit.cf' and copy the resulting file to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf Shouldn't it be /etc/mail/submit.cf Yes, oops!

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Stuart Henderson wrote: type 'make openbsd-submit.cf' and copy the resulting file to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf Shouldn't it be /etc/mail/submit.cf -- Antoine

A prototype of suggested OpenBSD manual

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
The OpenBSD has very good documentation when it comes to the manpages, but with the web guides there is one thing I don't like: one is presented information he doesn't need at the moment, which consumes time and increases likelihood of a mistake. So I wrote an example prototype of a guide how I

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:35:41AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 01:57:06PM +0200, Karel Kulhavy wrote: I am raytraing a video with a command rt and the top is showing this: CPU states: 48.4% user, 48.7% nice, 3.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle [...]

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 08:26:07PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: Is there a list similar to Linux kernel janitors also for OpenBSD? It's a list of tasks for which you don't have to be experienced in the particular OS internals to be able to complete them properly. No, there isn't. There

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:23:53AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: On 31.10-08:40, Theo de Raadt wrote: [ ... ] Yeah, right. [ ... ] I don't understand. Is newbies learning new things a waste to you? Do you think they won't really learn anything unless the patch is approved? Or will the

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Sean Darby
Thank you! :^) So would I do this: 1. cd /etc/mail/ 2. cp submit.cf openbsd-submit.cf 3. ...add this to openbsd-submit.cf: define(`confCT_FILE', `-o MAIL_SETTINGS_DIR`'trusted-users')dnl FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl 4. make openbsd-submit.cf (while in /etc/mail/) 5. cp openbsd-submit.cf

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Eric Faurot
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:01:46 +0100 Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've got a PR database with bugs in it, and we NEVER get fixes from outsiders. That's not news to anyone, if they actually wanted to do Maybe the outsiders just cannot find the PR database. I put openbsd pr

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:49:03AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: surely there must be _some_ merit to creating a list of lower level development tasks (as dictated by those with experience to judge) to encourage people to enter the development cycle. The most amusing thing about this

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 04:55:20PM +0100, Pierre Riteau wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:30:24AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/31/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't need a list. They could already have started coding. Yet we see how few people actually do

library resolution in 4.1

2007-11-03 Thread David
Hi all Set up fresh copy of 4.1 on my laptop, installed all the base tgz modules (including all X server stuff), set PKG_PATH to my local ftp mirror, and to get xfce, used the command: pkg_add -nv xfwm4 which produced parsing xfwm4-4.2.3.2p1 Dependencies for xfwm4-4.2.3.2p1 resolve to:

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:01:46PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: | On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:23:53AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: | We've got a PR database with bugs in it, and we NEVER get fixes from | outsiders. That's not news to anyone, if they actually wanted to do | | Maybe the outsiders

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:05:20AM -0700, Dag Richards wrote: n0g0013 wrote: On 31.10-11:12, Nick Guenther wrote: [ ... ] and i would suggest that the severe and prevelant attitude toward the possibilty of poor patches or under-educated actions is the most significant barrier to encouraging

typo on i386.html

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel
Hi! How does one report this kind of bug? There is a typo on the http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html page: Under the PC Cards (PCMCIA/CardBus (B)) section: o Serial ports, including: [...] o Sony Ericsson GC89 GSM/GPRS/EGDE modems s/EGDE/EDGE/ What is the proper way of dealing with this? Send

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Lars Noodén
Karel Kulhavy wrote: ... man nice doesn't say what the nice state in the top printout is neither man top says it. ... Bug report time. Manpages are 'easy' to update. -Lars

Re: Custom Kernel for 4.2 upgrade

2007-11-03 Thread Jason Murray
Thanks for the offer. If it comes to that I'll just do it in a VM. I'm just a bit surprised that no one can give me any clues as to what that error is. It's almost as if /dev/null is trying to execute, but how can that be? I'm stumped, hence my post here. On 2-Nov-07, at 7:27 PM, Brian A

Re: Questions to 4.0-4.1 upgrade

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:34:26PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: Karel, stop pretending. Everyone who can google your name will find out You are implicitly saying that I am pretending. By principle you cannot know it because the only mind you have access into is your own. For more information, see

how to support Intel 965?

2007-11-03 Thread 23号
Hi, my notebook's dmesg: OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @ 1.50GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.50 GHz cpu0:

Re: typo on i386.html

2007-11-03 Thread Miod Vallat
How does one report this kind of bug? There is a typo on the http://www.openbsd.org/i386.html page: Under the PC Cards (PCMCIA/CardBus (B)) section: o Serial ports, including: [...] o Sony Ericsson GC89 GSM/GPRS/EGDE modems s/EGDE/EDGE/ What is the proper way of dealing with

/tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel
Hi! Case 1: $ id uid=1000(leva) gid=1000(leva) groups=1000(leva) $ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxwt 4 root wheel 512 Nov 3 13:05:03 2007 /tmp// $ touch /tmp/test ls -l /tmp/test -rw-r- 1 leva wheel 0 Nov 3 13:09:04 2007 /tmp/test $ rm /tmp/test ls -l /tmp/test ls: /tmp/test: No such file or

Re: multipath routing with OpenBGPD

2007-11-03 Thread Florian Fuessl
Hi Gregory, we have multiple redundant FE upstream peerings to the same AS. So I guess the best solution would be in our case to let the upstream provider assign different community flags for packets passing each FE line which we can use for outgoing route preference decisions. Other ideas are

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:17:05AM -0400, Samuel Proulx wrote: Hello, I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a question about the sound system , is there a way to play two sounds at the same time ? Example watching youtube videos with opera and playing some

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:16:50PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:49:03AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: surely there must be _some_ merit to creating a list of lower level development tasks (as dictated by those with experience to judge) to encourage people to

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 10:47:20AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/31/07, Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have been using obsd as my primary desktop for a while now and i have a question about the sound system , is there a way to play two sounds at the same time ?

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread William Boshuck
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:16:50PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:49:03AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: Surely they are too busy whining at us for lists, to actually search for the lists. I'll say it again more clearly -- all of you whiners just plain suck. Who

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:40:11PM +0200, Lars Noodin wrote: Karel Kulhavy wrote: ... man nice doesn't say what the nice state in the top printout is neither man top says it. ... Bug report time. Manpages are 'easy' to update. I don't think that should be added into man nice. I think

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: From the replies I got (none of which actually answered my question) it looks like the nice state might be a state where the nice value != 0. Or less than zero would also make sense. But it could be also that OpenBSD has the

Re: Questions to 4.0-4.1 upgrade

2007-11-03 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:44:50PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 09:34:26PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: Karel, stop pretending. Everyone who can google your name will find out You are implicitly saying that I am pretending. By principle you cannot know it because the

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:23:31AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some *BSD systems are adjusting PCM driver support to allow multiple process to open /dev/dsp

Re: /tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Daniel wrote: $ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxwt 4 root wheel 512 Nov 3 13:05:03 2007 /tmp// Why is your /tmp chmod this way? It should be 1777 -- Antoine

Re: multipath routing with OpenBGPD

2007-11-03 Thread Tony Sarendal
On 11/3/07, Florian Fuessl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gregory, we have multiple redundant FE upstream peerings to the same AS. So I guess the best solution would be in our case to let the upstream provider assign different community flags for packets passing each FE line which we can use

Re: multipath routing with OpenBGPD

2007-11-03 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:20:26PM +0100, Florian Fuessl wrote: Hi Gregory, we have multiple redundant FE upstream peerings to the same AS. So I guess the best solution would be in our case to let the upstream provider assign different community flags for packets passing each FE line which

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: You've been on this list and using OpenBSD for long enough that you should be trying things like man nice, apropos nice and man top man nice doesn't say what the nice state in the top printout is neither man top says it.

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread William Boshuck
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 12:01:46PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:23:53AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: ... We've got a PR database with bugs in it, and we NEVER get fixes from outsiders. That's not news to anyone, if they actually wanted to do Maybe the outsiders

Re: /tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel
On 2007. November 3. 14:12.14 Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Daniel wrote: $ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxwt 4 root wheel 512 Nov 3 13:05:03 2007 /tmp// Why is your /tmp chmod this way? It should be 1777 I thought this question would arise :D but I (while being completely

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Woodchuck
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Karel Kulhavy wrote: PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATEWAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 29174 clock 79 10 33M 15M run -0:00 4.25% rt What is the nice state? I know what userspace, system, interrupt handler and idle task is, but

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Edd Barrett
Hello, This thread has been really interesting. On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. Mplayer is GPL, so be careful about lifting code. -- Best Regards Edd ---

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:44:02PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: Hello, This thread has been really interesting. On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. Mplayer is GPL, so be careful about lifting code. Then one can use the code at

Re: Remembering Jun-ichiro Hagino

2007-11-03 Thread Woodchuck
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Bob Beck wrote: * Adrian Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-01 11:22]: This thread is the first I have heard of him. Who is (or was) he? A. How unbelievably [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't even have the decency to google his name before you spout your ignorance

Re: how to support Intel 965?

2007-11-03 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
su mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original startx does it work? 2007/11/3, 23号 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, my notebook's dmesg: OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5250 @

Re: /tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:14:20PM +0100, Daniel wrote: ^^^ I can not create the file in /tmp, although I got world write permissions to it. It seems if I'm in the wheel group and the wheel group owns the directory, then only the group permissions counts? Yes, that's the way Unix

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/03 13:40, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: no; character devices (such as /dev/audio) keep per-unit state (encoding, rate, ...). To mix multiple audio streams per-stream state must be kept. That's why arts/esd/jack/... exist.

Re: how to support Intel 965?

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel
On 2007. November 3. 12:57.07 23e7 wrote: Hi, [...] vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82965GM Video rev 0x03: [...] Hi! This could be a long shot, but I think you need the intel driver from xorg. It's called xf86-video-intel and it's in xenocara. Maybe you should try to install it? Daniel

Re: /tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel
On 2007. November 3. 15:13.29 Marc Espie wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:14:20PM +0100, Daniel wrote: ^^^ I can not create the file in /tmp, although I got world write permissions to it. It seems if I'm in the wheel group and the wheel group owns the directory, then only the group

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 08:55:04AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: From the replies I got (none of which actually answered my question) it looks like the nice state might be a state where the nice value != 0. Or less than

Re: /tmp permissions, I don't get this...

2007-11-03 Thread Woodchuck
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Daniel wrote: Hi! Case 1: $ id uid=1000(leva) gid=1000(leva) groups=1000(leva) $ ls -ld /tmp/ drwxwt 4 root wheel 512 Nov 3 13:05:03 2007 /tmp// $ touch /tmp/test ls -l /tmp/test -rw-r- 1 leva wheel 0 Nov 3 13:09:04 2007 /tmp/test $ rm /tmp/test ls

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/11/3, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's clear to me what is the nice column. I asked for the nice state instead - if you run top, you have a line CPU state: ...0.0% nice... - that's the one I am asking about. Go away, troll.

Trouble creating serial console CD

2007-11-03 Thread Chris Eidem
I'm attempting to make a serial console install disk using the no-emulation boot sector provided. Following http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/distrib/i386/cdfs/Makefile?rev=1.7content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup, I can see that you do a standard dirctory setup as shown below (I've

Re: how to support Intel 965?

2007-11-03 Thread 23号
yes, I installed it. I make build on xenocara. On 11/3/07, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007. November 3. 12:57.07 23e 7 wrote: Hi, [...] vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82965GM Video rev 0x03: [...] Hi! This could be a long shot, but I think you need the intel driver from

Re: A prototype of suggested OpenBSD manual

2007-11-03 Thread Walter Goulet
Hi, I just finished upgrading a 3.8 system to 4.1 and performing a fresh install on a system that previously had Linux installed on it. Naturally while performing these upgrades I had to occasionally consult the OpenBSD documentation (FAQs on installation/upgrading). The existing documentation

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
On 03/11/2007, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the code could be taken from mplayer. Mplayer is GPL, so be careful about lifting code. Then one can use the code at least as an algorithm reference. one, as in someone who doesn't just talk talk talk talk. Or perhaps much

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 02:21:27PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/11/03 13:40, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: no; character devices (such as /dev/audio) keep per-unit state (encoding, rate, ...). To mix multiple audio

Re: how to support Intel 965?

2007-11-03 Thread 23号
yes, it don't work. On 11/3/07, Pau Amaro-Seoane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: su mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.original startx does it work? 2007/11/3, 23$B9f(B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, my notebook's dmesg: OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #375: Tue Aug 28 10:38:44 MDT 2007 [EMAIL

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:21:13PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote: 2007/11/3, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's clear to me what is the nice column. I asked for the nice state instead - if you run top, you have a line CPU state: ...0.0% nice... - that's the one I am asking about. Go

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:40:31PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: What do you mean with the term suck? No matter how good app you write it always breaks the basic principle - that hw virtualization should be done by the kernel and not some kind of userland app. So, you want to integrate printer

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:15:14PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 11:45:36AM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: You've been on this list and using OpenBSD for long enough that you should be trying things like man nice, apropos nice and man top man nice doesn't say

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:40:37PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:48:20PM +0100, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 11:23:31AM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/31/07, Brian A Seklecki (Mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some *BSD systems are

Re: how to support Intel 965?

2007-11-03 Thread 23号
now, it works, thanks a lot. On 11/3/07, 23$B9f(B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, I installed it. I make build on xenocara. On 11/3/07, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007. November 3. 12:57.07 23e 7 wrote: Hi, [...] vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82965GM Video rev 0x03:

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 05:14:13PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: neither man top says it - have you actually read top(1)? it does document the NICE column. it also lists renice(8) in the SEE ALSO section. hehe yes, but I am not asking about the NICE column, but about the nice CPU state

Re: library resolution in 4.1

2007-11-03 Thread Richard Toohey
On 30/10/2007, at 1:16 PM, David wrote: Hi all Set up fresh copy of 4.1 on my laptop, installed all the base tgz modules (including all X server stuff), set PKG_PATH to my local ftp mirror, and to get xfce, used the command: pkg_add -nv xfwm4 Even by looking in the dependency tree: Can't

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Nick Guenther
On Nov 3, 2007 12:20 PM, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:21:13PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote: Go away, troll. Wrong answer. Cf. Patricia Evans - Controlling People. The definition of troll includes with the intention of baiting users into an

Re: : deploy openssl patch

2007-11-03 Thread Ray Percival
On Nov 2, 2007, at 5:23 AM, Raimo Niskanen wrote: A very nice startegy from you. I have been looking for how to patch several machines this way. The kernel is easy since it is just one file to patch. But the userland is more delicate. Just to summarize your script (I want to understand how

Re: OpenBSD 4.2 (AMSTERDAM) #1: Fri Nov 02 20:00:00 CEST 2007

2007-11-03 Thread Floor Terra
Dear OpenBSD users, The OpenBSd launch party last night at cafi De Deugniet was a great succes. It would be great to try to do the same for the next release. Unfortunately I did not remember to bring my camera so I can't put my pictures online. But if someone who did remember to take some

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Darren Spruell
On Nov 3, 2007 4:29 AM, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They write code, then they submit it, it does not suck too much and they take the suggestions of the current project leads. Then they resubmit better code. The rest of us should simply buy CD's, ask and answer the occasional

Open hardware.

2007-11-03 Thread Adrian Fisher
How much modern computer hardware is fully open source or at least has fully open interfaces that allow anyone to create device drivers? I Sun and another company (Anglo-Italian firm Simply-RISC) released a processor based on Suns offering but has anyone else? Would you be more inclined to buy a

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 01:09:48PM +0100, Karel Kulhavy wrote: The proper natural solution is to implement this in the kernel where it belongs to according to what they told us on the lectures - I have done a master degree in operating systems, networks and compilers. They said that the

Re: OpenBSD 4.2 (AMSTERDAM) #1: Fri Nov 02 20:00:00 CEST 2007

2007-11-03 Thread chefren
On 11/3/07 8:21 PM, Floor Terra wrote: Dear OpenBSD users, The OpenBSd launch party last night at cafi De Deugniet was a great succes. It would be great to try to do the same for the next release. It was quite gezellig as we call it in The Netherlands. It appeared a few of the attendants

Need help with wordpress install.

2007-11-03 Thread nuffnough
Hi. I am getting an error when I try to run the wordpress wp-admin/install.php script: Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress. This is OpenBSD 4.2 with: mysql-client-5.0.45 multithreaded SQL database (client) mysql-server-5.0.45 multithreaded SQL

Re: Custom Kernel for 4.2 upgrade

2007-11-03 Thread Philip Guenther
On 11/3/07, Jason Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just a bit surprised that no one can give me any clues as to what that error is. It's almost as if /dev/null is trying to execute, but how can that be? I'm stumped, hence my post here. config is reporting that its parser saw invalid syntax

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Karel Kulhavy wrote: You cannot, of course. But janitor being a rookie doesn't imply he doesn't know what he's doing. He could be doing a job that doesn't require any special knowledge - like rewriting documentation into a different format, fixing HTML correctness, fixing typos and unclear

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Karel Kulhavy wrote: Maybe the outsiders just cannot find the PR database. I put openbsd pr database into google and looked into all links on the first page. The pr database is always mentioned, but never linked. Where is it? This only again proof the point of waisting time try to help. How

Re: Open hardware.

2007-11-03 Thread Karel Kulhavy
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:47:27PM +, Adrian Fisher wrote: How much modern computer hardware is fully open source or at least has fully open interfaces that allow anyone to create device drivers? I Sun and I've made one that implements wireless comms... ronja.twibright.com another

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 05:16:06PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: So, start by sending diff's then. Almost every diff's I saw sent in, got reply one way or an other. My recent experiences differ, for my last 2 submissions (an issue with swig, sent to ports@ after interaction with the

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
2007/11/3, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 3, 2007 4:29 AM, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They write code, then they submit it, it does not suck too much and they take the suggestions of the current project leads. Then they resubmit better code. The rest of us

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hannah Schroeter wrote: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 05:16:06PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: So, start by sending diff's then. Almost every diff's I saw sent in, got reply one way or an other. My recent experiences differ, for my last 2 submissions (an issue with swig, sent to ports@ after

Re: Custom Kernel for 4.2 upgrade

2007-11-03 Thread Jason Murray
$ ls -l /dev/null -rw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 274 Nov 3 18:10 /dev/null Hmm. # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV std # ls -l /dev/null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel2, 2 Nov 3 18:12 /dev/null So now: # cd /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf/ # config GENERIC Don't forget to run make depend Kernel options have

A motherboard wich works with bd.mp + sound.. any recommendations?

2007-11-03 Thread sebastian . rother
Hi all, I own a ASUS P5VD2-X wich dropes me into a ddb because of some apic-Problems (I submitted the details using sendbug). OpenBSD also does not notice the onboard Realtec ALC883 (not even as not configured, it just disappeared completly..) even it works absolutly ok on another OS (well,

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/11/03 05:59, Sean Darby wrote: 1. cd /etc/mail/ You are confused between /etc/mail (dir holding config files used by sendmail) and /usr/share/sendmail/cf (dir holding files used to *build* these config files). cd /usr/share/sendmail/cf copy submit.mc to openbsd-submit.mc and add these

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 10:30:05PM +0100, Hannah Schroeter wrote: So, start by sending diff's then. Almost every diff's I saw sent in, got reply one way or an other. My recent experiences differ, for my last 2 submissions (an issue with swig, sent to ports@ after interaction with the

False OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread chefren
On 11/3/07 5:23 PM, Karel Kulhavy wrote: CL Sigh, I hoped he had grown up somewhat or learned something. Still the wrong edge! ---chefren

hello, question about configuration, 64 bit

2007-11-03 Thread 182719
Hi, I am wanting to do some experimenting, and want to know before I get to knee deep into installing big directories, and files, to which places I should look and if I am on right track with these ideas and versions: 1. Apache 1.3.29 Web Server running on OpenBSD 4.2... latest??? 2. Can be done

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Sean, I realize this isn't directly OpenBSD-related, though believe I came across a message in misc a while back That was me (on ports@, not misc@). that discussed including a reply-to field in mutt. Er, well, mutt is able to set the Reply-To: all right. It is trivial to set arbitrary

Re: OpenBSD kernel janitors

2007-11-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
This include example and full diff's below as well. May be this is a waist of time, but will see. Some say they needs some details, then here is an example, and this took me only about 30 minutes or so from start to finish, including getting the source tree. Doesn't mean it will be pick up,

Re: ftpd follow symlinks

2007-11-03 Thread Frank Denis
Le Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:50:39PM -0700, Clint Pachl ecrivait : Lord Sporkton wrote: ahh, yes, they are, i have it chrooting to the user home, however the symlink in the user home is linked to something in /mnt hadnt thought of that, any way around that then? Yeah, don't chroot or bring

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Sean Darby
I went ahead and made a backup of /etc/mail/submit.cf and copied it into (replacing) /etc/mail/submit.cf. Correction: I copied the newly created openbsd-submit.cf into/replacing /etc/mail/submit.cf.

Re: OpenBSD Sound

2007-11-03 Thread Dorian Büttner
Jacob Meuser schrieb: resending, sorry if this is a dup. On Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 02:59:13PM +0100, Dorian B?ttner wrote: No kde doesn't play anything at all, kmixer doesn't have any available device. ah, you have kdemultimedia installed. there were a couple issues with that port

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Sean Darby
Hi, Thank you for correcting me. I did as you noted, placed those lines in openbsd-submit.mc (at the bottom). Here's the 'make' step, from /usr/share/sendmail/cf/, it had an error: $ sudo make openbsd-submit.cf rm -f openbsd-submit.cf ( cd /usr/share/sendmail/cf /usr/bin/m4

Re: What is the nice process state?

2007-11-03 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/11/3, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 04:21:13PM +0100, Martin Schrvder wrote: Go away, troll. Wrong answer. Cf. Patricia Evans - Controlling People. The Shut the Fuck up. Nobody here will miss you.

Re: Need help with wordpress install.

2007-11-03 Thread James
I installed wordpress on OpenBSD entirely following the steps here: http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress What step are you on? On 11/3/07, nuffnough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I am getting an error when I try to run the wordpress wp-admin/install.php script: Your PHP

Re: Need help with wordpress install.

2007-11-03 Thread James
Just thought of something else, too. are you using an install of apache from ports, or the default version in OpenBSD? Because the default version is chrooted, so you may need to install a bunch of stuff in the chroot environment, or turn off the chroot and lose its security features. On

Re: Open hardware.

2007-11-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 07:47:27PM +, Adrian Fisher wrote: How much modern computer hardware is fully open source or at least has fully open interfaces that allow anyone to create device drivers? I Sun and another company (Anglo-Italian firm Simply-RISC) released a processor based on Suns

Re: hello, question about configuration, 64 bit

2007-11-03 Thread Unix Fan
Hi, I am wanting to do some experimenting, and want to know before I get to knee deep into installing big directories, and files, to which places I should look and if I am on right track with these ideas and versions: 1. Apache 1.3.29 Web Server running on OpenBSD 4.2... latest??? OpenBSD

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