2008/11/13 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think that would work better. I am not here saying this because
I have answers. I don't. I think that people running old software
quite frankly cannot rely on a mailing list run by people who don't
run -stable. So how can any of you hope we
Let me first say that I looked over all the man pages, the official faqs and
I searched over the archived mailing lists before sending out these
questions ... and I'm still a little confused. So:
1. What are the main differences between cvs and cvsup when updating sources
to stable?
2. I'm just
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:40:36AM -0800, Vivek Ayer wrote:
i don't think I understand. Clarify. you mean carpdev is like your
physical interface..eth0, re0, etc.?
say you have a carp configured like:
carp0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
lladdr
On 2008-11-13, Ansen Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me first say that I looked over all the man pages, the official faqs and
I searched over the archived mailing lists before sending out these
questions ... and I'm still a little confused. So:
1. What are the main differences between cvs
On 01:28:57 Nov 13, Ansen Lloyd wrote:
1. What are the main differences between cvs and cvsup when updating sources
to stable?
cvs is the revision control technology. You can use cvs to check out the
main OpenBSD repository to your local machine by which you only get the
files pertaining to
I too have of course subscribed myself to the list, and i think since
its there, it should work and be updated regularly. If we don't need
such a list, then lets delete it. But since its there, and people are
subscribing to it in hope to get a quick mail notifying them of new
patches or other
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 07:13:05PM +0100, Hans-Joerg Hoexer wrote:
Support for specifying aes key sizes was added february 2008, thus 4.2
does not provide this.
Ah, thought so. Well, I got it working by reverting back to using the
old isakmpd.conf method.
Thanks for your time.
-- joe.
additionally, i care very about about those patches, and apply each and
everyone where needed every time.
Martin Schrvder wrote:
2008/11/13 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think that would work better. I am not here saying this because
I have answers. I don't. I think that people
Status:
As a last resort I tried installing Windows XP pro, but it BSOD on me
while probing the hw... Not sure if XP pro is a certified OS for the
DL180 but it certainly seems bad.
Browsing some HP forums, it seems I'm certainly not the only person
having issues with the HP DL180's. Seems
Hi,
On Sun, 02.11.2008 at 15:28:06 +0100, Johannes Krampf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My problem: Every couple of seconds, I get 5 messages WARN: not
buffer in the console, even when using an editor or viewing man
pages. 0brad0 told me That WARN .. not buffer message appears to
be coming from
From: Pedro de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Anyone here using OpenBSD/macppc knows if its possible to enable more than
one virtual console? I cant seem to find any info about that in the FAQ.
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html
It's not supported. Use 'screen' from packages instead.
PK
hi list,
i have a t-mobile usb web'n'walk stuff for testing. i attached it to a
4.4 GENERIC and
realized that first it attaches umsm0 and then immediately deattaches
it. then umsm0
and umsm1 attached along with ucom0 and ucom1. i can open the
/dev/ttyU[01] but
they don't respond to any AT
Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cvs is the revision control technology. You can use cvs to check out the
main OpenBSD repository to your local machine by which you only get the
files pertaining to the revision you ask.
Whereas cvsup and cvsync are tools that fetch the entire
cvsup is not written in C. ;)
net/csup is a cvsup client written in C.
2008/11/13, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 01:28:57 Nov 13, Ansen Lloyd wrote:
1. What are the main differences between cvs and cvsup when updating
sources
to stable?
cvs is the revision control technology.
'tmux' (misc/tmux) is a nice alternative to 'screen'. Well worth trying out.
Andreas
2008/11/13 Peter Kay - Syllopsium [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
From: Pedro de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Anyone here using OpenBSD/macppc knows if its possible to enable more than
one virtual console? I cant
macppc console sucks, it is slower than dog poo. Besides this has been
asked, oh maybe 329849384293473284784728347328 times by now?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:57:58PM -, Pedro de Oliveira wrote:
Is it possible to implement it, its something that may be available in the
future ? Or its
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:59 AM, David Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I too have of course subscribed myself to the list, and i think since its
there, it should work and be updated regularly. If we don't need such a
list, then lets delete it. But since its there, and people are subscribing
to
Hi,
Anyone here using OpenBSD/macppc knows if its possible to enable more than
one virtual console? I cant seem to find any info about that in the FAQ.
Thanks in advance,
Pedro de Oliveira
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:28:57AM -0800, Ansen Lloyd wrote:
Let me first say that I looked over all the man pages, the official faqs and
I searched over the archived mailing lists before sending out these
questions ... and I'm still a little confused. So:
1. What are the main differences
Is it possible to implement it, its something that may be available in the
future ? Or its really impossible to have multiple consoles ?
From what i understand, the console in macppc just works in Framebuffer, is
FB limited to just one console, it just doesnt support yet multiple?
-Mensagem
Ted,
everybody knows that's not going to happen. Why no scrap the security
announcement list if it's not being used or just whenever someone feels like
it? The mere existence of this list implies to users that new errata are
being announced to that list which is not the case. Get rid of the list
--
Best Regards
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Tobias Weisserth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
everybody knows that's not going to happen. Why no scrap the security
announcement list if it's not being used or just whenever someone feels like
it? The mere existence of this list implies to users that new errata are
All this chatter now isn't going to change anything when the next
errata comes out. You want security announcement? Do something to
make it happen!
Ted,
everybody knows that's not going to happen.
I remember having asked the same question YEARS AGO and
nothing has changed since then.
there is also the errata rss feed from undeadly
If anyone cares enough, someone could write a perl/ksh/whatever script
that can mail updates to that list. Apparently nobody cares and the
list is useless ATM, so IMHO it should be deleted.
--
Aram Havarneanu
Janne,
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Janne Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
everybody knows that's not going to happen.
I remember having asked the same question YEARS AGO and
nothing has changed since then.
Reading those two next to eachother says everything.
Why ain't you a bit
On 13 Nov 2008, at 15:56, Tobias Weisserth wrote:
Janne,
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Janne Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
everybody knows that's not going to happen.
I remember having asked the same question YEARS AGO and
nothing has changed since then.
Reading those two next to
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Janne Johansson
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Misc OpenBSD
Subject: Re: Missing security announcements
why not just get it yourself if you're worried about it? just fire a crontab
entry and
someone should take the task to send a
mail via it once something arrives on the errata page.
It is really easy to use that word should when it isn't you.
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:22:09 -0500
Morris, Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Janne Johansson
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:14 AM
To: Misc OpenBSD
Subject: Re: Missing security announcements
why not
I installed NetBSD 4.01 (amd64) and then installed OpenBSD 4.4 (amd64)
onto the same hard disk.
I used the OpenBSD fdisk on the install CD to set it up OpenBSD like this:
Offset: 0 Signature : 0xAA55
C H S C H S
0: A9 0 1
Hello,
For those of you who where asking informations about (open ?)smtpd :
Gilles Chehade writes a long and clear text about it on undeadly.org :
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20081112084647
Thank you Gilles for this work. This is a very exciting project.
--
Rimi Bougard
As someone new to OpenBSD and UNIX in general (reading a lot and trying
to learn) I signed up for the security list due to the description of
the list thinking I would be covered if something serious were to come
up. I only check errata about every week or so and as of right now I'm
not even sure
To everyone who wants security-announce to work:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:29:09 -0700
Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
someone should take the task to send a mail via it once something
arrives on the errata page.
It is really easy to use that word should when it isn't you.
I'll do
just fire a crontab entry and move on
actually, that's a great idea, I just scheduled the following script
this mails the diff of errata.html, but only if something changed
#!/bin/sh
rel=44 # OpenBSD version
ftp http://www.openbsd.org/errata$rel.html /dev/null 21
if [ $? != 0 ]; then
echo
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is security-announce an open list? If not, give me access and I'll
keep it reasonably up to date, give or take a day or so of release of
the Security Errata on the website, unless there is an even faster way
of checking
Steven wrote:
I installed NetBSD 4.01 (amd64) and then installed OpenBSD 4.4 (amd64)
onto the same hard disk.
I used the OpenBSD fdisk on the install CD to set it up OpenBSD like this:
Offset: 0 Signature : 0xAA55
C H S C H S
0: A9
Ted == Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ted What you can do is monitor the list. If an erratum comes out and
Ted nothing happens for a day, email the person responsible and remind
Ted them. The person responsible is not necessarily the person who
Ted happened to commit to stable, though,
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:55:36 -0500
Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] There's no announcements on the list because probably
half the developers don't know they are supposed to make such
announcements.
Excuse my ignorance, but who keeps http://openbsd.org/errata44.html
updated, then?
Hi,
upgraded a box from 3.8 stable to 4.4 snapshot and am wondering now,
why it is hogged with interrupts when i run tcpdump on em0. According
to vmstat iterrupt rate is more or less the following:
$ vmstat -i
interrupt total rate
irq10/em0 399560
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Randal L. Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who handles the errata page, assigning the sequential numbers and deciding
whether it's a security fix or not? Surely, it would be easier to teach that
small set of people (one?) to cc the mailing list on a security
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:19:45AM -0600, Brian Drain wrote:
So I am curious, what IS the best way to stay up to date? Is manually
checking the errata page every day really correct (seems like there
would be an automated solutuion such as the lynx dump aforementioned)?
It seems to me that
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Thomas Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:55:36 -0500
Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] There's no announcements on the list because probably
half the developers don't know they are supposed to make such
announcements.
Excuse my
Of course, this is how things always work on misc. There's the
developers do it option and the community does it option. The
community is full of ideas about the first option, and full of shit
when it comes to the second.
That is exactly what happens.
Now what happens next?
You guys out
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:12:21 -0500
Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Thomas Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:55:36 -0500
Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...] There's no announcements on the list because probably
half the
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Denis Doroshenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
upgraded a box from 3.8 stable to 4.4 snapshot and am wondering now,
why it is hogged with interrupts when i run tcpdump on em0. According
to vmstat iterrupt rate is more or less the following:
snip
re upgraded
Oh ok. That kind of makes sense.
Thanks
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Marco Pfatschbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:40:36AM -0800, Vivek Ayer wrote:
i don't think I understand. Clarify. you mean carpdev is like your
physical interface..eth0, re0, etc.?
say you
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Jason Beaudoin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Denis Doroshenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
upgraded a box from 3.8 stable to 4.4 snapshot and am wondering now,
why it is hogged with interrupts when i run tcpdump on em0. According
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:55:36 -0500
Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is security-announce an open list? If not, give me access and I'll
keep it reasonably up to date, give or take a day or so of release of
the
Hi,
Why does layer 7 relaying require pf still?
Thanks
--
Best Regards
Edd
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:38:06 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
Surely, it would be easier to teach that small set of people (one?)
to cc the mailing list on a security announcement, rather than
expect that everyone with a core commit bit be reminded to watch
errata to notice
2008/11/13 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
You guys out there on misc have more ideas that we can ignore?
quote src=http://www.openbsd.org/goals.html;
Do not let serious problems sit unsolved.
/quote
Best
Martin
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:55:36PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is security-announce an open list? If not, give me access and I'll
keep it reasonably up to date, give or take a day or so of release of
the Security Errata
Hi misc,
Are any of you using AICCU on OpenBSD 4.4 patched to 005? Have you
experienced panics? Since I upgraded to OpenBSD 4.4, whenever I take
AICCU down, then up, after a while the system panics. I can reproduce
this reliably, although the timing is not always the same: sometimes
the system
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi misc,
Are any of you using AICCU on OpenBSD 4.4 patched to 005? Have you
experienced panics? Since I upgraded to OpenBSD 4.4, whenever I take
AICCU down, then up, after a while the system panics. I can
Hi list, using stable 4.3.
I have a weird behaviour with opencvs and wish to know if it's a known
thing. My usual steps to have an up to date OpenBSD source tree is to
download the src.tar.gz and sys.tar.gz files from a well known ftp
server, and then launch a opencvs checkout. I found that
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi misc,
Are any of you using AICCU on OpenBSD 4.4 patched to 005? Have you
experienced panics? Since I upgraded to OpenBSD 4.4,
Hello,
I had the time to test a snapshot.
I download the bsd.mp i386 11 nov 2008 23h25
I install only the bsd.mp because I want keep the box in 4.4 stable if
something goes wrong. If that is not engouh I will have the next week a
better environnement to test it (with serial console, apc, etc).
I'm providing wireless internet access for a small building with
OpenBSD 4.3 (some snapshot) as access point. I'm using the ral
driver. I regularly need to bring down and then back up the interface
with ifconfig. Is this normal? Is there anything I can do short of
replacing the card? As an
It's not possible (at this time?) and probably won't be for quite a long
time.
I use OpenBSD on macppc, I too recommend using screen or tmux, although I
have no experience with the latter. It's enough to get by.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Marco Peereboom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
macppc
Yay! I got ssh and http to work on the CARP interface. Thanks.
However, the httpd redirect is not working just yet on the CARP
interface for one of the computers. Does IP balancing mess up
redirect?
When I only have one router up doing the redirect, the CARP interface
works, but when I have both
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi misc,
Are any of you using AICCU on OpenBSD 4.4 patched to 005? Have you
experienced panics? Since I upgraded to OpenBSD 4.4,
Confirmed. If I have both routers on, the http redirection on the CARP
interface doesn't work. But when I only have one on, then the
redirection works just fine. Is CARP getting confused with the
packets?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Vivek Ayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yay! I got ssh and
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:15:19 +0100
Jesus Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list, using stable 4.3.
I have a weird behaviour with opencvs and wish to know if it's a
known thing. My usual steps to have an up to date OpenBSD source tree
is to download the src.tar.gz and sys.tar.gz files from
On 21:45:56 Nov 13, Edd Barrett wrote:
Hi,
Why does layer 7 relaying require pf still?
There are cases where relaying works in tandem with redirection. pf
never looks into the packet payloads.
-Girish
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Felipe Alfaro Solana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are any of you using AICCU on OpenBSD 4.4 patched to
I'm scripting a reinstall routine for my ports on 4.3. When I come to
'make reinstall' the thing is trying to download from the $PKG_PATH
that I have set earlier in my script and, of course, does not find the
files it needs. Removing that variable and I get No packages
available in the PKG_PATH.
On Thursday 13 November 2008 19:54:55 Juan Miscaro wrote:
I'm providing wireless internet access for a small building with
OpenBSD 4.3 (some snapshot) as access point. I'm using the ral
driver. I regularly need to bring down and then back up the interface
with ifconfig. Is this normal? Is
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