Re: Pre-orders for 5.3

2013-03-18 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Chris Hettrick
ch...@populatealltheresistors.com wrote:
 A Ridley Scott pastiche, ala Blade Runner?


This is Blader Runner. No doubt.

-- 
chs,



Can't cleanly umount a usb stick

2013-03-18 Thread STeve Andre'

   I've just run into something I can't explain.  Likely it's not a
bug, but puzzling none the less.

   I normally run KDE, and then thunderbird, firefox and chrome
as well as a bunch of other stuff.  Fine, mostly.

   I frequently mount a 32G usb stick to stuff my 'reagents' software
on, for keeping Windows sheep (mostly) safe.  To do this I mount the
stick on /dos, and copy stuff to it.

   Only today and maybe a couple of other times,  I finished copying
data to /dos and did umount /dos, and got a device busy message.
Only the one xterm touched /dos, from the mount, to the copy, to
the umount.  Last time this happened I did a umount -f as I needed
the data.  This time I went hunting and an  fstat | grep  doc revealed
that firefox had /dos?  *I* didn't do anything.

   Any ideas as to whats going on, or things to check?  I am puzzled.

Thanks, STeve Andre'



Re: Can't cleanly umount a usb stick

2013-03-18 Thread Vadim Zhukov
2013/3/18 STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu:
I've just run into something I can't explain.  Likely it's not a
 bug, but puzzling none the less.

I normally run KDE, and then thunderbird, firefox and chrome
 as well as a bunch of other stuff.  Fine, mostly.

I frequently mount a 32G usb stick to stuff my 'reagents' software
 on, for keeping Windows sheep (mostly) safe.  To do this I mount the
 stick on /dos, and copy stuff to it.

Only today and maybe a couple of other times,  I finished copying
 data to /dos and did umount /dos, and got a device busy message.
 Only the one xterm touched /dos, from the mount, to the copy, to
 the umount.  Last time this happened I did a umount -f as I needed
 the data.  This time I went hunting and an  fstat | grep  doc revealed
 that firefox had /dos?  *I* didn't do anything.

Any ideas as to whats going on, or things to check?  I am puzzled.

Probably some time ago you saved something from FireFox directly to
/dos (or subfolder of). Then FireFox remembered the last folder you
were using, and open it on start. Save something to a different
folder. Probably it's also a good idea to avoid asking about
destination folder at all. I use this setting personally to avoid
having a bunch of extra files spreading everywhere: things I really
need gets moved somewhere else, and then I just wipe the directory (or
rather use subdir in /tmp).

--
  WBR,
  Vadim Zhukov



Re: Can't cleanly umount a usb stick

2013-03-18 Thread STeve Andre'

On 03/18/13 05:44, Vadim Zhukov wrote:

2013/3/18 STeve Andre' and...@msu.edu:

I've just run into something I can't explain.  Likely it's not a
bug, but puzzling none the less.

I normally run KDE, and then thunderbird, firefox and chrome
as well as a bunch of other stuff.  Fine, mostly.

I frequently mount a 32G usb stick to stuff my 'reagents' software
on, for keeping Windows sheep (mostly) safe.  To do this I mount the
stick on /dos, and copy stuff to it.

Only today and maybe a couple of other times,  I finished copying
data to /dos and did umount /dos, and got a device busy message.
Only the one xterm touched /dos, from the mount, to the copy, to
the umount.  Last time this happened I did a umount -f as I needed
the data.  This time I went hunting and an  fstat | grep  doc revealed
that firefox had /dos?  *I* didn't do anything.

Any ideas as to whats going on, or things to check?  I am puzzled.

Probably some time ago you saved something from FireFox directly to
/dos (or subfolder of). Then FireFox remembered the last folder you
were using, and open it on start. Save something to a different
folder. Probably it's also a good idea to avoid asking about
destination folder at all. I use this setting personally to avoid
having a bunch of extra files spreading everywhere: things I really
need gets moved somewhere else, and then I just wipe the directory (or
rather use subdir in /tmp).

--
   WBR,
   Vadim Zhukov


Well, thank you!  I may well have done that, saving to /dos.
That certainly would explain it.  Thanks again.

--STeve Andre'



Re: This is my first time to use OpenBSD

2013-03-18 Thread Nick Holland
On 03/17/13 22:10, ¿àÄյıý×Ð wrote:
 Yesterday£¬I just install OpenBSD 5.2 in my little server.
 I found that OpenBSD 5.2 seem no support for TRIM, it's terrible to our ssd 
 user.
 How can I run just like 'fstrim' in Linux in OpenBSD?
 

How is this terrible?

If you want things just like Linux, I'd suggest you run Linux.

If you have a real problem, let us know...but things not like Linux is
generally considered a Thank goodness moment around here.

(hint: soft updates.  See FAQ 14)

Nick.



Re: Client-side font rendering system - from FAQ

2013-03-18 Thread James Griffin
[- Sun 17.Mar'13 at 11:19:31 -0500  Chris Bennett :-]

 I also use mutt and I want to see UTF8 properly.
 
 I put:
 export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
 in my .profile and I get OK results.
 I don't need to change my actual font with that.
 
 Won't swear it will work for you.
 
 Chris

Yes I did all of that - I always read OS docs and FAQ's. The xterm issue
is weird, with some fonts I can see chinese/korean/japanese but not
Arabic - with other fonts it's the reverse. The best way i've found is
not to use a font for any terminal emulators and let it use its default.
I see more unicode charaters that way that by using any other fonts.
It's not a major issue for me, just a little niggle. Using urxvt seems
to cover most of the charset issues; but I like to use as much of the
default installation as possible. If I could get [u]xterm to do this
then i'd have no need to install urxvt.

I know that 99.9% of the time it's user config screw-ups, not the
software. I've clearly missed something or done something wrong. Like I
said, i'll just use urxvt.

Cheers for replies and advice anyway.

Jamie. 


-- 
James Griffin:  jmz at kontrol.kode5.net 
jmzgriffin at gmail.com

A4B9 E875 A18C 6E11 F46D  B788 BEE6 1251 1D31 DC38



Announce: OpenSMTPD 5.3 released

2013-03-18 Thread Gilles Chehade
Hi misc@,

At AsiaBSDCon, eric@ has announced the release of OpenSMTPD 5.3 which is
the first stable and production-ready release of OpenSMTPD.

It is also the smtpd that will be shipping with OpenBSD 5.3.

We would like to thank the OpenBSD/OpenSMTPD community for their help in
testing the snapshots, reporting bugs, contributing code and packaging
for other systems.


Features:
=

  * HUMAN READABLE CONFIGURATION
  * IPv4 and IPv6 support
  * STARTTLS and SMTPS support for both incoming and outgoing sessions
  * AUTH support: bsd_auth(3) and crypt(3)
  * SIZE support: limit the size of client-submitted messages
  * Listener-specific banner hostname
  * Listener-specific sessions tagging
  * Support for global and per-domain expiry for messages
  * Support for customizable delays for bounces
  * Support for primary and virtual domains
  * Support for alternate user database: db(3), file or smtpd.conf
  * Support for aliases and ~/.forward mappings
  * Delivery to mbox, maildir or third-party MDA
  * Support for LMTP relaying
  * Support for smarthost
  * Support for sending certificate when connecting to remote host
  * Support for backup MX
  * Support for relay source address override
  * Support for relay HELO override
  * Support for SMTP-level sender override
  * Support for connections reuse and optimization
  * Support for queue backends: filesystem and ram
  * Support for lookup backends: db(3), static
  * Run-time statistics through smtpctl show stats
  * Run-time tracing through smtpctl trace component
  * Run-time monitoring through smtpctl monitor


  Experimental:

  * SQLite lookup backend
  * LDAP lookup backend


  Portable:

  * Support for PAM authentication
  * Known to build and work on FreeBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD and Linux


  Limitations:

  * No filters support yet (work in progress)
  * No masquerading or address rewrite yet


Checksums:
==

  SHA256 (opensmtpd-5.3.tar.gz) =
  05efe80755e7fa01e79e6bba1a4e89244849406acb1152995d2c1da5e9e3a596

  SHA256 (opensmtpd-5.3p1.tar.gz) =
  618092f1f0b5aba5f8d4c933536a76d3a5a8e45c28b599a6420321cd4478f3d9


Support:


You are encouraged to register to our general purpose mailing-list:
http://www.opensmtpd.org/list.html

The Official IRC channel for the project is at:
#OpenSMTPD @ irc.freenode.net


Reporting Bugs:
===

Please read http://www.opensmtpd.org/report.html
Security bugs should be reported directly to secur...@opensmtpd.org
Other bugs may be reported to b...@opensmtpd.org

OpenSMTPD is brought to you by Gilles Chehade, Eric Faurot and Charles Longeau.



Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src - kms

2013-03-18 Thread LEVAI Daniel
On h, márc 18, 2013 at 06:36:52 -0600, Jonathan Gray wrote:
[...]
 Log message:
 Significantly increase the wordlist for ddb hangman,
 and update our device independent DRM code and the Intel DRM code
 to be mostly in sync with Linux 3.8.3.  Among other things this
 brings support for kernel modesetting and enables use of
 the rings on gen6+ Intel hardware.
 
 Based on some earlier work from matthieu@ with some hints from FreeBSD
 and with lots of help from kettenis@ (including a beautiful accelerated
 wscons framebuffer console!)
 
 Thanks to M:Tier and the OpenBSD Foundation for sponsoring this work.

Wow guys, hats off, thanks for the work and thanks for the sponsors for
making this available for us.


Daniel



Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src - kms

2013-03-18 Thread Gregor Best
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 02:13:20PM +0100, LEVAI Daniel wrote:
 On h, márc 18, 2013 at 06:36:52 -0600, Jonathan Gray wrote:
 [...]
  Log message:
  Significantly increase the wordlist for ddb hangman,
  and update our device independent DRM code and the Intel DRM code
  to be mostly in sync with Linux 3.8.3.  Among other things this
  brings support for kernel modesetting and enables use of
  the rings on gen6+ Intel hardware.
  [...]

Just to get this clear though, the 'gen6+ only' bit is meant for _both_ KMS and
rings, right?

-- 
Gregor Best



Re: Announce: OpenSMTPD 5.3 released

2013-03-18 Thread Ville Valkonen
On 18 March 2013 14:17, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org wrote:
 Hi misc@,

 At AsiaBSDCon, eric@ has announced the release of OpenSMTPD 5.3 which is
 the first stable and production-ready release of OpenSMTPD.

 It is also the smtpd that will be shipping with OpenBSD 5.3.

 OpenSMTPD is brought to you by Gilles Chehade, Eric Faurot and Charles 
 Longeau.

Hi,

This, and KMS support. Damn, this is a nice day. Thanks for the all
hard working devs out there. This writing is my humble appreciation
towards you. And yes, I'm on my way to donate to keep things running
(and hopefully rest of you do the same ;)

--
Sincerely,
Ville Valkonen



Re: X11 on Dell Latitude E5410

2013-03-18 Thread Tristan Le Guern
Hi,

I can have a working system using a striped down xorg.conf with the
vesa(4) driver, but it doesn't explain all the mess I had.

Sorry for the noise anyway.
---8---
Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  vesa
BusID   PCI:0:2:0
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
---8---
--
Tristan Le Guern



Re: Pre-orders for 5.3

2013-03-18 Thread Eric S Pulley
 On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Chris Hettrick
 ch...@populatealltheresistors.com wrote:
 A Ridley Scott pastiche, ala Blade Runner?


 This is Blader Runner. No doubt.

 --
 chs,



Yep it sure is... and its awesome. Ordered


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I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week.
Time to die.
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Re: This is my first time to use OpenBSD

2013-03-18 Thread Zoran Kolic
 Yesterday I just install OpenBSD 5.2 in my little server.
 I found that OpenBSD 5.2 seem no support for TRIM, it's terrible to our ssd 
 user.
 How can I run just like 'fstrim' in Linux in OpenBSD?

So far, I think you should stick with plain old
hdd, if you consider trim option in openbsd. On
both laptop and desktop I have ssd, but I do run
freebsd on them, using tunefs with -t enable.
My openbsd node has seagate 2.5 drive and I found
it a lot better than wd. Even further, you might
get hitachi yourself.
Best regards

   Zoran



Re: This is my first time to use OpenBSD

2013-03-18 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
苦恼的饼仔 sis...@qq.com writes:

 Yesterday£¬I just install OpenBSD 5.2 in my little server.
 I found that OpenBSD 5.2 seem no support for TRIM, it's terrible to our ssd 
 user.
 How can I run just like 'fstrim' in Linux in OpenBSD?

It would help a lot if you describe what you're trying to achieve.  I
strongly suspect it's not a question of a practical need here - 

If the first vaguely relevant google hit ([1]) is any indication, I
think we may be seeing something analogous to the Microsoft crowd's
'defragmenting' craze (even if that was to some extent justified by
real-world deficiencies in that group of products).  

This functionality lives or should live in the file system, with the
system optimizing allocations as appropriate for the device and relevant
tuneable parameters, without any need for direct end user intervention.

Take a peek at the file system code. If you still think there's a TRIM
deficiency that would hurt SSD users, I'm sure patches that solve the
problem will be welcomed by the developers.

- Peter

[1] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/en/man8/fstrim.8.html

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: Using hostnames in pf rules

2013-03-18 Thread Gilles LAMIRAL
Hi all,

 make a table, and have cron update the contents of this table with the
 result of the latest resolved ip.

Thanks all three for your answers.

-- 
Au revoir, 09 51 84 42 42
Gilles Lamiral. France, Baulon (35580) 06 20 79 76 06 



Re: CVS: cvs.openbsd.org: src - kms

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
  Log message:
  Significantly increase the wordlist for ddb hangman,
  and update our device independent DRM code and the Intel DRM code
  to be mostly in sync with Linux 3.8.3.  Among other things this
  brings support for kernel modesetting and enables use of
  the rings on gen6+ Intel hardware.
  
  Based on some earlier work from matthieu@ with some hints from FreeBSD
  and with lots of help from kettenis@ (including a beautiful accelerated
  wscons framebuffer console!)
  
  Thanks to M:Tier and the OpenBSD Foundation for sponsoring this work.  
 
 Wow guys, hats off, thanks for the work and thanks for the sponsors for
 making this available for us.

Made my day.

So does this mean machdep can be turned off for some hardware and is
the best way to find out, simply to try?

-- 
___

'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)
___



Re: Why to use packages?

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
 The only
 halfway sane reason I can think of not to use packages but ports

Hoping not to open commentry on the matter but so people are aware and
perhaps to avoid the next question, there are some security pluses of
using ports (checksums via ssh, landry's testing/beta firefoxes a little
earlier).

-- 
___

'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)
___



Re: ffs2

2013-03-18 Thread Olivier Cherrier
You could also try this not so usefull tool:
  http://www.symacx.com/data/software/OpenBSD/fstyp.tgz   (ports)
  http://www.symacx.com/data/software/OpenBSD/fstyp-0.1.tar.gz (source)


Later,
oc


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 07:45:35PM -0500, thelette...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sweet, didn't know about dumpfs, exactly what I was looking for.
 
 Thanks also, for the confirmation!
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Brandon Tanner thelette...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   How do I know if I'm using ffs2 on a partition.
 
  sudo dumpfs /storage | head -1
 
 
  ...
   However, I think I read that  2TB volumes automatically use FFS2 when
   using newfs, yet mount only shows ffs (is it transparent or something?).
 
  Yes, it's transparent: they're just different versions of the same
  layout, so the same programs handle both.
 
 
  Philip Guenther



MacBook Pro

2013-03-18 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
Hi,

   I would like to know if anyone is using OpenBSD on MacBook pro (intel
based) and how well the system works on it. Is there any hardware issue?
Performance?

   Regards,

   Alvaro