You are a joke
No, the only people who are jokes around here are those who don't help
improve things. Some think they can go futher, and are complete assholes.
Can we please focus on technology improvements?
Because portmap(8) dynamically assigns the mountd(8) port, how would
one write a pass rule in pf for mountd(8) traffic? My problem is that
every time mountd(8) is re/started, it operates on a different port and
my fixed pf rules block the mount protocol and, consequently, my
clients cannot
We have found a blade 1000 for Jason in Washington DC (thanks) but
are still trying to find one for Mark Kettenis in the Netherlands.
If someone can help, please mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks.
| Wich device should be used for pppoe? [fxp0] :
| pppoe protocol? [bla]:
I can add ppooe to the floppy, but to make it fit I am going to
have to remove the fxp driver.
OK?
This is due to a problem in the ral driver. I have mailed damien, and
hopefully a fix will be written soon. (the same mistake is in some of
the other drivers drivers he has written too)
On 6/21/06, Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because portmap(8) dynamically assigns the mountd(8) port, how would
one write a pass rule in pf for mountd(8) traffic? My problem is that
every time mountd(8) is re/started, it operates on a different port and
my fixed pf rules block the
I'd like to know if OpenBSD's gcc build binary files with built-in
stack-smashing attacks protection.
Of course. We were the first to incorporate this stuff.
It seems to me that if people are going to make a huge fuss about a
company's documentation not being open enough or not available or what
have you, and then following the fuss, they make their documentation
available, they should at a minimum be considered somewhat friendly.
I think you are
Ok, so there's no need to fawn over them for doing what they should have
done before. I'd be nice to have an apology AND the docs. Given the
choice of one or the other, it's better to have the docs. And who knows,
maybe there will be real policy shift for now and the future with Hifn.
I'm not
Don't misunderstand me, CARP is an amazingly innovative and extremely
useful implementation of a redundancy protocol. It's technically better
than HSRP or any of the versions of VRRP but the problems till stands
that it is not an official protocol, which simply means adoption and
inter
I'm running a snapshot from 29.06.2006 on a soekris net4801 board. I
also recently bought a Globalsat BU-353 USB GPS receiver. When I attach
the receiver to the soekris board the kernel reports the following:
uplcom0 at uhub0 port 1
uplcom0: Prolific Technology Inc. USB-Serial Controller,
I'm a bit confused by your reply. Yes, I kind of see what you mean but
it also seems I failed miserably to write things clearly. By putting
Official in quotes, I was trying to point out the stupidity of the bad
corporate decisions that occur far too often.
There are countless corporate
We've been providing BRU and BRU Server agents for OpenBSD since
OpenBSD 2.8.
For the most part, OpenBSD updates have not broken compatibility with
our baseline builds for 2.8 and 3.5 - until 3.9. We have a customer
that has installed 3.9 on a group of servers and we now witness libc
I've a stranged issue with openbsd 3.9.
I've hacked the installer script to install openbsd automatically. Everything
works fine excepted dmesg output.
In a normal installation from CD, after N reboot, when I do a dmesg, I've
got only the LAST dmesg (the current boot). But with my
i am learning NIS and was wondering if i hostname nis database needs
to be the FQDN or just the single hostname?
It can be anything. In fact, you may feel that you gain a tiny security
advantage from making it a completely random string.
Our company has a small OpenBSD box colocated with a local ISP that we use
for tertiary stoage of some data. I'd like to setup RAID-1 to provide some
basic redundancy of that data. I'm looking at either an Arco Duplidisk DD3
or 3Ware 7006-2 card. I've ruled out an Adaptec 2400A based on
But, out of curiosity, is there a reasoning for not including the
sysctl binary on the install image, and hence not allowing sysctl
modifications during the installation of these snapshots?
Besides that the install media are totally full?
But, out of curiosity, is there a reasoning for not including the
sysctl binary on the install image, and hence not allowing sysctl
modifications during the installation of these snapshots?
Besides that the install media are totally full?
Ok, hadn't considered that. I guess it may
Is someone working on Waveplus 802.11b wireless chip?
http://www.waveplus.com/wp1200.asp
http://www.waveplus.com/download/wp1200_datasheet.pdf
We are not aware of anyone working on this.
The data sheet does not appear to contain everything needed, but it
comes close. Someone outside the
Has the OpenBSD project ever considered offering a subscription to the
OpenBSD CDs.
Yes we have considered it, and no, we won't be doing it.
And you could have googled before you became the 50th person to ask
the same question.
please do test the new code in a sparc64 container.
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You really have come to the wrong mailing list. This is a mailing
list about OpenBSD.
It is not a mailing list about SATA or SATA reliability. Nor is not a
mailing list setup to assist you in fulfilling your contracts.
It is about OpenBSD (which you do not mention), and which does not
support
I believe it is available under hw.sensors (see sysctl(8)) for most
machines. Though I must admit nothing is shown on my 390X; more recent
models are more likely to be supported.
On my X31 hw.sensors doesn't show anything. But, 'apm' does tell you that,
and
some other things (you may
We have activated OpenBSD 4.0 pre-orders. The official release date
is November 1.
For more information on the release, please see
http://www.openbsd.org/40.html
(but note this page is still receiving sporatic updates, as developers
update it to comtain more mentions of what they did
After looking at the page, the logo is real cool but I just wanted to
make sure you read about this:
http://mobilix.org/
or drag your attention to it. The owners of Asterix and Obelix aren't as
friendly as their cartoons :-)
Our releases are thematic parodies, specifically
2006/9/21, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nope, totals are right at the top of the page.
+ Shipping.
When am I told, how much shipping will cost? At least not before I
submit my credit card info.
We don't have a shipping pricing system. Those are very finicky
prediction systems,
By the way, if anyone has spare USB Zydas hardware, it would be nice to get
more of it spread around amongst our developers. Mail me back, but do tell
me where you are located too... thanks.
i would like to see the contents of /bsd.rd. May i use vnconfig to
mount it and change its file contents on the fly?
no way. It is *MUCH* more complicated than you think. It's packed like
mad.
Regarding Intel wireless chips and distribution rights...
From: Damien Bergamini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
Intel's policy with respect to open-source software[1] which
has been presented at OSDL (I wasn't there unfortunately) is
clear and can be summarized as follow:
- make us look like
I believe that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is another person who
is involved.
These people will try to tell you that there are parts of the
firmware that Intel does not own. They'll say that positively about
two of the firmwares, and want you believe that is the case for all
three. Then you can read the
Intel has a seriously restrictive license on the firmware of their two
older chipsets. It seems Intel didn't design these chipsets but
purchased them but failed to buy all the rights, and now feels
compelled to restrict us. That license can be found at
As far as I am concerned, yes we can email and complain, but they are so
arrogant that nothing will change.
Arrogant people change when their arrogance is too publically displayed.
I am interested in this information as well. A list of recommended
products wold be great or something to that effect.
A list of recommended products may help you, but would not help the
user list at large. They will continue to accidentally buy the wrong
hardware from the wrong vendors. It
Is it possible to turn on some kind of timestamps or sequence numbers in
dmesg?
No.
When I ocassionally get an error message (uncorrectable error on CD), I would
like to know if I got one recently or not. Difficult to distinguish 1000 and
1001 messages of this type in dmesg otherwise.
We have just put up the new songs for 4.0
There are two... well, there is one for 4.0, but there is an extra
song that Ty made by himself (without any input from us) specifically
for the audio CD.
Much to our amusement that track relates so strongly to the current
Intel (open source frauds)
When I mount /dev/cd0c I always get this in dmesg:
cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x0
SENSE KEY: Not Ready
ASC/ASCQ: Logical Unit Is in Process Of Becoming Ready
And this in application:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /mnt/cd
mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0c
Could the first problem occur if the cd is being mounted while it is
still spinning up, i.e. if you attempt to mount immediately upon
inserting the cd? I could be reading too much into the error message
but that's what it looks like it might(tm) mean.
That is exactly what it means. And
does somebody already work on a driver for a Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce
One 54g] 802.11g WLAN driver?
steffen
Probably not. Broadcom generally are bitches like that. But note that
this information you've given is just the card model, what's important
is the actual chip on the card.
Intel may just be worried that there _might_ be a problem they don't
know about and are trying to protect themselves.
may just be?
I imagine that there
are plenty of opportunities for someone to either willfully or
accidentally introduce patented technologies, for which Intel does not
: deraadt
Subject: Re: Marvell 88W8388 documentation
In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:47:00 +1000.
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:38:34 -0600
From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please correct me if I am wrong but it seems that documentation
for Marvell's
The attitude
that the end (hardware support) justifies the means (complete
sacrifice of the principles the thing was written under in the first
place) has to stop.
I will quote one little sentence from a private mail with the OLPC
team. I
Free and open software is a means to an end, rather than the
sole end unto itself for OLPC.
I was totally stunned by this admission. morally bankrupt, as Bob
says, is exactly what is going on.
Hmm, sounds like you are saying that abstract goal of unlimited
software freedom
Does Red Hat making under-the-table deals with closed-source vendors
to give them special access to hardware docs
If this is in fact what the sum of the matter is, that is indeed
quite naughty.
Oh come on. Everyone knows that Red Hat makes deals with closed
vendors. They have SINCE
When you say that the GPL is related to DRM,
what do you mean? I mean how is GPL related to DRM?
Generally I try to avoid licensing discussions and
what not and just focus on the technology, but
I'm just curious in this regard.
I know GPL3 has a lot dealing with DRM (or so I've heard)
Its complete and utter nonsense actually. The linux kernel is used in
closed source products all the time, it has no effect there just like it
Please show us one example of a closed source Linux device.
Sure, the broadcom wireless device inside the linksys routers. Yes, they
are
Han is some asshole who comes onto our list about every 2-3 weeks and
spouts some very vague bullshit to distract people. He wants every
argument to become a vague license argument. He refuses to leave our
lists. At times, I have times wished that someone would go visit him
in person and shut
Can you please take your rants elsewhere?
You know what I can't stand... Bullying! That's what's going on
here.
I'm the operator on an #openbsd channel, and I know exactly what
happens when somebody start ranting about how {GPL, Windows,
Linux, FreeBSD,...} sucks. Another guy is a happy
On 10/5/06, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have decided to make public this letter which I sent to the OLPC
(One Laptop Per Child group, which is strongly associated with Red
Hat.
[snip]
See Jim Gettys defense at http://www.gettysfamily.org/wordpress/?p=27
He cleverly avoids
On 10/7/06, Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
usb gps receivers don't usually have any sort of PPS signal which is
what this code depends on.
CK
As I understand it, ntpd uses a timedelta sensor to make adjustments
to the clock. If nmeaattach properly creates a timedelta sensor (and
I see 4.0 is coming out, and yet, no hardware raid support, no fixes for
raidframe,
and still no SMP support, for sparc64 on Ultrasparc II machines.
I'm using only 1 processor out of 4, and 4 hard drives out of 30 because I
can't hardware raid
my enterprise fiberchannel array, I can't
Some of you may have been following the OLPC discussion. Here is
one place you can read more about it:
http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/286/
Finally it has been made more clear what this is about. The
discussion is being discussed at a variety of other sites.
However, a
I've been thinking about the legal blurbs in the source files, the
most permissive being the one in, for example, src/bin/chio/parse.y
I feel it's a bit silly to bother with them, since they have no
technical significance. But perhaps it's worthwhile, every once
in a while, to ponder the
Speaking of zaurus -- any way to get a com0 on this thing?
You have to buy the special Zaurus adapter for this. It is a little
bit hard to find. If you do so, you can even use it as a serial
console.
Would be nice to plug into a conserver for debugging and bug posts,
I've had a few
Last, I often get messages stating bdwrite: force async write on the
buffer 0xda6d4c18 (varying numbers). Google/MARC doesn't seem to show
anything.
This is temporary debugging code for a new fix that is in the snapshots.
Ignore it ;)
It is, libc bumps happen when functions change in interesting ways.
Just out of curiosity: This is not an update to keep the libc version
number in-sync with the OpenBSD release? It would have remained on 39 if
there would not have been a change in the interface or semantics?
Of course
On 2006/10/17 02:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just like to know (some have already 4.0 stable and propably also a
pgt-Card) if that Bug was already fixed in 4.0-Stable (because I4ve
learn your way around the tree and save yourself some time...
Some peoples will propably OWN such cards and you can`t know if a card
needs softmac or hardmac by starring at the CARD itself (at least I
can4t..).
Bummer.
So propably a lot peoples will SIMPLY try out the card and see aha they
don`t work (yet). And propably a lot peoples will get a neat
http://news.com.com/Exploit+code+released+for+Nvidia+flaw/2100-1002_3-6126846.html
I just wanted to say... Told you so.
Quite amusing.
Of course we know this is not the last time this will happen.
More problems like this will be exposed, and it is my hope that
vendors who refuse to participate
Would this in anyway help the OpenBSD devlopers ongoing campaign to
get documentation from Nvidia?
As I see it, the only way we are going to get documentation, is for it
to make economic sense for nVidia.
Cost of documentation / Perceived loss of IP ($) through documentation
(+
Pardon me if my Knowledge is lacking, but is there actually *any*
video card vendor that would support Full 3D acceleration and *most*
of the stuff desktop users want?
Maybe the AMD / ATI merger will yield some results in the future, if i
am not mistaken AMD has been a *decent* company as
For example, recently Intel was very boastful about demonstrating
their ``ongoing commitment to providing free software drivers for
Intel hardware''[1]. When I first read the announcement, I was
excited, but after re-reading it, I caught on that nowhere did they
mention providing
The FAQ says:
It is sometimes asked if there is any way to get a copy of exactly
the code used to build a snapshot. The answer is no.
For this to change, it would be sufficient if the output of
find src XF4 -path '*/CVS/Entries' -exec perl -ne \
2006/10/18, ICMan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I have read this thread, and I don't get it. Doesn't it benefit card
companies to have open source communities making their drivers better?
One theory is that the cards are so full of patent violations that
opening up the docs would lead to a lot of
On 10/29/06, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henning Brauer wrote:
I have a slower vax serving our entire network.
it doesn't have usb tho, thus no gps
nmea(4) works over serial lines, too.
How accurate is NMEA, on USB or serial without using a PPS signal line?
A lot more
In order to have sane configuration defaults in OpenBSD, what are the
good reasons to not disable ssh root access,
Machine administration.
and to not disable sshv1
protocol by default ?
I am actually more worried about security problems in the protocol 2
code which is roughly 4-5x as
is the new prebinding code in 4.0?
The code is there. It is not being used by anything yet. There
are things which need to be worked out.
. Ports
tree and package building by Peter Valchev, Nikolay Sturm and
Christian Weisgerber. System builds by Theo de Raadt, Kenji Aoyama,
and Miod Vallat. X11 builds by Todd Fries. ISO-9660 filesystem
layout by Theo de Raadt.
We would like to thank all of the people who sent in bug reports, bug
I have been looking around for ral wireless cards, and I've come
across Wim's site (kd85.com). I have 3 boxes (2 laptops, 1 server)
and I was going to use MiniPCI in my server, but I didn't know if
there are specific miniPCI adapters to use with OpenBSD. Anyone have
any thoughts on this?
The important thing is that the cartoons on the CD documentation seem
to be in the correct order, however, the text on pages 7 and 8 (if the
front cover is page 1) are swapped (would this count as a swapping
problem?).
No... the cartoons are swapped too... as any Asterix fan would be
able to
Will it be possible to build GENERIC kernel for the next OpenBSD
release 4.1 using release or stable 4.0 system (with comp40.tgz set
installed)?
That would be a bit hard, since 4.1 is about 6 months away.
But I get your drift. Can you use -current code to build a kernel.
Yes, you can, but
The core problem is simple - a user will be told use ifconfig
to do something not use ath - so they start at the ifconfig(8) point.
What's the best way to make that as painless as possible?
man -k is the solution to that. Increasing the length of the Xr's
at the bottom of the man
Just want to say that I totally agree with Igor - joining new networks to
yer obsd box is non-trivial if you are a beginner - collecting a few more
instructive examples in ifconfig(8) would not be amiss in my opinion.
You've got to be joking. Every wireless man page has sufficient details.
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 03:55:49AM +0200, Soner Tari wrote:
I'm planning to purchase a motherboard with SiS 661FX/964 chipset. Can I
assume sis(4) driver on OpenBSD 4.0 amd64 supports the ethernet on SiS
964? (In other words, sis(4) mentions SiS 900, does it mean 9xx?)
Thanks,
The
Note that the first line is what you will find in your GENERIC
kernel configuration, and AFIK, it *only* selects lun 0.
that is balony. He's hit a bug. What he's got should not need special
configuration. It should just work.
config files specifiers which have no value do not
I've installed (without a problem, as always, thank you devs !)
OpenBSD/i386 4.0-release on a SuperMicro SC513. This server is powered
by an Intel Dual-core Pentium 3.0GHz. When I boot whith bsd.mp, I've
got a ioapic0: pin 16 shares different IPL interrupts (40..50),
degraded performance
Not working for me. I get this far:
CD_ROM: 90
Loading /CDBOOT
probing: pc0 com0 mem(699K 991M a20=on)
disk: hd0+* cd0
boot c
and there it stays forever. I suspect the c following the boot prompt
is left over from hold c to boot from cd. The keyboard at this point
is dead.
Any
know how I can help. pbhasin at cafepress dot com :)
-Parvinder Bhasin
On May 6, 2008, at 4:36 PM, James Crutchfield wrote:
On 4/9/08, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sale of the items on that page do not fund the project. Sale
Perhaps some who watch the commit logs have already figured out that
most of the network developers are currently involved in a week-long
network hackathon in Japan.
A bit more information about this can be found at
http://openbsd.org/hackathons.html#n2k8
We are in a rather old hotel with an
A heads up about spamd.
For those heavily using spamd in sync mode, the protocol has changed
to fix a few bugs.
The protocol has a version number and we incrememnted it as a result.
You will need to update all your spamd sync boxes at the same time
(or, older boxes and newer boxes will ignore
On 6/3/08, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ted, I think you are confusing matters.
md5 is a cryptographic hash, it surely transforms text into bit soup,
but that is not not the same a an encryption function. For an
encryption function, you want to have a corresponding
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are using a GPS device with nmeaattach(8), please switch to
ldattach(8) now.
Thanks Marc for passing on this information. Can you describe in
short why this change was made?
No need to have two ways to do one
Development is really fast right now, because of the hackathon in Edmonton.
We are testing as much as we can before we commit, but as always
during these hackathon processes we really depend on our user
community -- to track our changes and help spot the occasional bug we
accidentally introduce.
Is there a particular time of day most changes are committed (like
pre-dinner) or should we sync and build at whim?
Oh come on.
We are being careful. The tree builds -- always. Only one commit done
so far has broken something so far -- for about 3 minutes -- which none
of you noticed.
Why is sendmail in /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin?
sendmail is patently not a GNU application, and has a modified
Berkeley license?
The gnu directory is a dropping-ground for anything which has any
restrictions further than a BSD license. The main src tree's line is
BSD or more free, the gnu
Would that include the webcam built into last year's models of MacBook Pro?
When you buy from Apple, you do not get what you paid for. Instead
you get exactly what you got suckered into buying.
Considering how small the program is, and the license (seems like a bsd
style license to my inexperienced eye) are there any reasons why this
couldn't be included in base?
Sorry, but we are way too busy adding about 50 other small programs.
Hi, just wondering what's your opinion on this...
If one were to release some code under an ISC or BSD-like 2 clause
license, but under the name of anonymous, would it effectively as if
it was released as public domain?
I guess the actually question you wanted to as was:
Does OpenBSD
sorry this is slightly off topic, but i was curious. (that) What
database technology (Oracle, MysQL, Postgres...) does Google use for
its database need?
Of course they use flat files. Duh.
Aren't you glad you asked on a mailing list which is 100% unrelated
to your question?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:07:07PM -0700, badeguruji wrote:
| Hello Group,
|
| sorry this is slightly off topic, but i was curious. (that) What database
technology (Oracle, MysQL, Postgres...) does Google use for its database
need? both in its plethora of apps and internally to manage the
Lars NoodC)n schrieb:
It seems that OpenBSD's Stop the Blob message is getting more recognition:
http://www.fsdaily.com/stop-blob
As the article points out, better late than never.
Though OpenBSD had been on my list of things to look at for years, it
was the Stop-the-Blob
You must not be following the right build process, described in
/usr/src/Makefile
Other build mechanisms won't do the right thing.
Trust me; I do more than a handful of builds a day...
I am having a problem building current today also where it stops on
rpc.lockd, except my error messages are
/usr/src/lib/libc/stdlib/malloc.c says NULL, which is suprising, given
that OpenBSD will alert me to memory issues for programs that
run fine on another BSD.
All the options default to off, with the partial exception of the a/A
option: the default behavior is not quite the same as either
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* Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-06-20 20:50]:
One would only use sloppy state tracking on the load balancer, right?
not necessarily only, but that would be the most common use I bet.
In general, you use it when you cannot avoid it, as in, the other
option is to not filter stateful at
It looks like I was indeed supposed to use cua, and I can now get a file
descriptor. However, I'm still not able to set the baud rate, it's stuck
at 19200 whether I try to set it with tty01 or cua01. cua00 corresponds
with tty00, which is the serial console, so I shouldn't use that.
I
Brad in Toronto needs a PCI-e system (he prefers a desktop, i386 or
amd64) as soon as possible for some driver development he's doing.
If anyone can get him one soon, please drop him a note.
Thanks.
Why haven't the developers posted a formal annoncement clearifing
if the distributed BIND is vulnerable?
If so, where the hell is the patch?
You really should adjust your extremely pathetic attitude.
I'm not one to condone shitty attitudes.
However, I think in this case it's unfair to claim that one can have
no expectations of OpenBSD with regards to security patches. If I
could have no such expectations, I would not use OpenBSD in the first
place.
Then don't.
I have these
this kind of replies do have a long tradition in this list - probably most
of the times for a good reason! On the other hand, calling people idiots,
isn't really polite, to put it mildly, neither serves any good cause!
I fully agree with your definition of the correct order of operation and it
These are both local machines, why would DNS be required?
Because in the modern world DNS -- or any other kind of reliable
name-address + address-name mapping -- is required.
You might as well get used to it.
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