Re: Writing "ones" instead of "zeroes" when wiping disk
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, STeve Andre' wrote: > Don't bother. Wiping the disk twice is enough. If you are storing state > secrets melt the disk. > An anvil big hammer also works well and gives some exercise in the process. Lee
Re: Can I use OpenBSD in a virtual machine, for example, VirtualBox?
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 wrote: > Can I use OpenBSD in a virtual machine, for example, VirtualBox? > Yep, .. have had them for many years, VirtualBox & Xen. Lee
FW Hardware
There have been some good discussions lately about HW capable of running a lot of traffic, .. but this question is about the other end of the spectrum. Have a need for a small FW appliance that can be used to protect a single machine and provide a simple way to whitelist a single IP or two. Two HW ethernet ports, OBSD compatible, small form factor, low cost. Any recommendations? Thanks! Lee
5.7 & Nagios
What is the intended upgrade path for i386 versions of monitoring software? No Nagios in packages, .. icinga is reported amd only, .. Nagios in ports is amd only, .. and nagioscore will not build: # make all cd ./base && make make -C ../lib Using $< in a non-suffix rule context is a GNUmake idiom (Makefile:157) *** Error 2 in /usr/src/nagioscore (Makefile:71 'all') Inquiring minds want with Nagios installations want to know! Lee
nginx & Perl on 5.6
What is the prefered configuration for using Perl & Nginx? php is fairly straightforward, .. but can't find anything for perl except some Linux notes to recompile. Thanks! Lee
Slightly OT, .. 5.5 Nagios
Trying to upgrade our 5.4 Nagios system to 5.5, .. everything went fine with the system, but it appears that there are some new dependencies for the web UI: # pkg_add nagios-web-4.0.1-chroot Can't install php-gd-5.4.24 because of libraries |library X11.16.0 not found | not found anywhere |library Xpm.9.0 not found | not found anywhere |library freetype.22.0 not found | not found anywhere X has never been installed on this box, .. why now? Lee
Re: Slightly OT, .. 5.5 Nagios
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:31 PM, L. V. Lammert <l...@omnitec.net> wrote: > > Trying to upgrade our 5.4 Nagios system to 5.5, .. everything went fine > > with the system, but it appears that there are some new dependencies for > > the web UI: > ... > > X has never been installed on this box, .. why now? > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#FilesNeededX > Of course, .. the question was about Nagios [hence the slightly OT]. Lee
Re: Slightly OT, .. 5.5 Nagios
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, Stuart Henderson wrote: > Also note: if this is on a 32-bit machine (e.g. i386), the time_t > change breaks things with nagios and icinga. Fixed for icinga in > the OpenBSD 5.7 package (patches in 200+ places for this) but nagios > is comparatively unloved. ;) > Interesting, .. so, the nagios package is broken? Removing and reinstalling after upgrading to 5.5 DNW on i386? In this case, the nagios 4.0.1 chroot does run, but it does exhibit some weird symptoms: * It will not start daemonized - it can only be started in the foreground and detached; Thanks! Lee
Re: alternative places to buy the CDs in US are needed
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015, Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello misc, I've looked (and registered) at openbsdstore.com (USA site) - don't like it (a lot). Use to buy OpenBSD stuff from a US book store, but can't find it (there was a link to it on the openbsd.org, but not any more). Are there alternative (local) options to buy the OpenBSD CDs in the US? -- Best regards, Boris mailto:bo...@twopoint.com That's actually a good idea, .. I suspect many other US purchasers may have stopped purchasing [as have we] due to VAT assessment. Lee
Re: Backup of OpenBSD to Linux box
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015, Bernd Schoeller wrote: Hi - I have got an OpenBSD box, and I would like to create regular full backups of that box to a Linux server at a different location. The main purpose of this backup is to be able to restore the OpenBSD box on a severe hardware failure (HD corruption, fire, etc.). If possible, the backup should be incremental as I am somewhat bandwidth constrained between the two sites. IME, one seldom does a 'full' restore, as upgrades, hardware changes, et al get in the way. For us, rsnapshot is an excellent tool - full versioning at the file level (enable simple restore of a single file, as well as the working contents of an entire system). When a system rebuild was necessary, installing the OS and restoring from the last snapshot worked well. Lee
Re: OpenBSD as a Mailserver
ros...@ghweb.de (Markus Rosjat), 2015.03.25 (Wed) 13:58 (CET): what's the usual setup these days for mailserver ? mailserv is my favorite - MySQL back end with a nice Rails management GUI. Currently hosted on github: https://github.com/mailserv/mailserv 5.5 is stable, 5.6 also available. Lee
Re: Software for time management calendar
On Sun, 22 Mar 2015, Jason Crawford wrote: I use redmine for project management and that includes a calendar and time tracking system. Seconded. Lee
Re: disk change-out and packages
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Raf Czlonka wrote: In the same manual, however, it reads: However, cp copies hard linked files as separate files. To preserve hard links, use a utility such as pax(1) or tar(1) instead. So using 'cp' to, effectively, mirror the disk, is not the best of ideas. rsync -avH will copy hard linked files, .. and is a much better option - especially if using a network connection [e.g. to the backup disk mounted on another machine]. Lee
Re: disk change-out and packages
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, Raf Czlonka wrote: Hi Lee, I was meant to mention it but given the issues the OP had with (seemingly) simple 'tar' syntax, I did not want to get into explaining yet another tool (i.e. trailing slash, etc.). Besides, it's not in base. Regards, Raf Raf, No issue there, .. but rsync is much better than anything IN base for file synchronization (cross-filesystem, works over ssh [et al], properly handles permissions and hardlinks, . ). If there is an issue installing packages I would think that should probably be addressed first. Lee
Re: DigitalOcean's BSD debut is FreeBSD only
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014, andrew fabbro wrote: Rather than discuss provider by provider, when looking for an OpenBSD VPS, look for KVM. OpenBSD runs on virtually any KVM provider and there are many, at both the low $3-4/month end and at the high end. I've run OpenBSD on KVM for several years at a variety of providers. FYI, Xen [free] is also usable with OpenBSD, .. makes a great VM platform, been using it for years here in the shop. Lee
Re: [Bulk] Re: openbsdstore: enable javascript and buy something or gtfo
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Matti Karnaattu wrote: Disabling Javascript is like disabling ability to run modern application software. It is same if I just turn off computer. It is then secured. Sorry, that is totally bogus! The **FIRST** thing one should do when sitting down at a new browser is install NoScript [which is the most important reason TO use Firefox] and CookieMonster, so you can SEE what JS code is running and have the option to block individual sites. I interpreted the comment to which you are referring as 'controlling' what JS is running, so YOU have the choice as to whether to allow tracking code (e.g. googleanalytics) or block. As you state, it is *not* possible to use anything more than a basic website without JS, however it *is* realistic and reasonable to *limit* the cross-site JS code that is only there for the use of other third parties. Lee
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Charlie Farinella wrote: I'm trying to install OpenBSD 5.4 on a Dell Vostro 400, it's several years old but not ancient. 4GB RAM, 250GB Seagate ST3250310AS hard drive. The installation goes normally until it tries to find the hard drive and then tells me no hard drive is available. Assuming it is recognized in the machine BIOS, .. you mmight have to install a DOS partition table first - it probably still has an ESX partition table, even after wiping. Lee
Re: Seagate ST3250310AS not recognized
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On OpenBSD the drive itself should show up in the installer regardless of whatever garbage is in the partition table. For a Windows install, your advice would be spot-on, but OpenBSD's installer is much more intelligent than anything that came out of Redmond, WA, US. I would have thought so, but that is the only explanation that makes sense. Anyone ever built on an ESX drive? Lee
SpamAssassin Consult
We have a mailserver that will not post email, and it appears that SpamAssassin is not running [via Mailscanner]. Load isn't the problem, something apparently changed this evening. Looking for someone that can take a look [paid gig] now, .. if possible. [Not a current system.] Thanks! Lee
Re: Missing A DNS record for openbsd.org ?
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014, nobody wrote: umm, but isn't a CNAME or redirect or whatever should be needed? So if people type in the browser: openbsd.org they can be redirected to www.openbsd.org ? Thanks. It SHOULD be that way, .. nobody that cares about security wants maybe if something do this type of situations anywhere in the system, even in DLS. Forcing www is adhering to good practices, and that's what OpenBSD is about, IMHO. Lee
Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, davy wrote: Can I do a 4.1 - 5.4 in one shot? Nope. One version at a time, .. though the better solution would be to do a fresh install and copy data. Lee
Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Kenneth Westerback wrote: Shudder. NO! :-) Aside from the very valid hardware concerns Nick mentioned, there are too many flag days of various kinds strewn along that path. Skip them all, start fresh with a -current snapshot. Much better to start with new CD set, eh? Lee
Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Kenneth Westerback wrote: Well, that would imply waiting for May 1 or whenever the physical CD's are available. 5.4 is available now, .. Starting now with a -current snapshot means getting everything working in the meantime and then ordering the new CD's and installing the Far better to recommend CD installs, .. -current or -release may require a tad more expertise to manage. Lee
Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: I don't see why everyone recommends install one version at a time. It's not a recommendation, it is reality. Each upgrade is based on the previuos version - skipping versions is not supported. Lee
Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Chris Cappuccio wrote: What I'm recommending isn't really an upgrade so much as using the old box to bootstrap a newest snapshot. As long as the bootblocks are still compatible, you can do it. Why? A clean build on a new machine would be the best solution in that case, .. then reconfigure with data from the old box/disk. Also, it is not good to recommend snapshots - most users do not need that level of complexity. CDs are a much better alternative, and give something back to the project. You DO purchase more than one set of CDs for every release, right? Lee
Re: Upgrade path from 4.1?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Marc Espie wrote: Nah, if you know what you're doing you can skip lots of versions. It's not recommmended because if you fuck up, well, you're on your own. The OP gave no such indication, .. hence my recommendation for step-by-step or new machine. Developers will laugh at you and not help (even more so than usual, I mean) AND create a lot of troll fodder, .. best avoided. Lee
ARM Emulators
After building an ARM VM to build packages for a project, I was very surprised at the 256MB limitation [of the QEMU version], when hardware was at least 512MB. As folks are mentioning using one for a kernel compile (good idea or not), there must be a VM version with decent specs? Don't suppose someone would send me info on what WOULD be a good ARM VM usable for compiling? Thanks! Lee
Re: Virtualize or bare-metal?
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Christopher Ahrens wrote: I have recently inherited a set of high-spec machines that I intend to use for OpenBSD. I am planning on using these machines for DNS, HTTP, mail, LDAP, netboot, build system for following -stable, etc. So my question is, is it recommended to load all these services on a single instance OpenBSD running on bare metal or to virtualize and use much smaller OpenBSD virtual machines? It would be much better to use a set of small machines (we use older Compaq 386s 486s) for most of those servers, .. save the 'big iron' for a web server where it might be beneficial. Virtualization does not make sense for core services - higher chance of a single failure taking down multiple services and security can be a problem. Lee
Re: NFS/Samba Alternative
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Byron Klippert wrote: Hello, I'm looking at options for sharing machine resources (drives/directories/files) over LAN between OpenBSD server and Windows7 clients. sftp//sshfs using winscp works great from Windows, . GUI based, secure, Explorer interface (or MC). cmbclient works from the Unix side, though I'm not sure what hoops you may have authenticating to a domain. Lee
Re: Help troubleshooting performance problem
On Sat, 30 Nov 2013, John Hynes wrote: I'm having some trouble figuring out what is causing a systemic performance issue. By systemic I mean that running even seemingly trivial things (i.e. 'ls' on a directory with only a few files in it) is accompanied by a substantial delay before any response, say, of 15-30 seconds. Not *every* single time, but pretty frequently. Looking at top, load average is higher than expected on a largely idle web smtp server, usually between .7 and 1.6. This is a dual-core opteron box (Sun Fire X2100) with 8GB RAM. (dmesg below). Check messages dmesg for any HW problems - this sounds like you have bad disk sectors that are getting hit and timing out. Lee
Re: mailx : mime handling?
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Eric Johnson wrote: pine/alpine 2nd, 3rd. pine/alpine is much more flexible that Mutt, as it can handle mutliple 'personalities'. Lee
Re: SSHD setup
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, Lance Ferrer wrote: Thank you for the help, I think I hadn't done a reboot. I saw sshd starting during the boot I believe. What else would I need to do to be able to use my MacBook to ssh to the openbsd system? My domain is hostname.my.domain. On my MacBook I type ssh hostname.my.domain and after awhile it returns operation timed out. That would probably be a DNS issue; check the IP of the OBSD box ifconfig -a to see all interfaces ifconfig active interface to see just the active one If you ssh to that IP from your MacBook you will not need a DNS or hosts entry. Lee
Re: Sturdy and secure mail server
On Thu, 2 May 2013, Matthew Weigel wrote: On 2013-05-02 16:56, Chris Cappuccio wrote: You are going to spend a bit of time in the MTA and Dovecot docs to figure out some of these things. Now, if you use fdm, you really don't need an MTA at all. fdm would have to deliver to the dovecot LDA or use its own LDA in the same directory structure that Dovecot retrieves mail from... This is the important part: dovecot and postfix or opensmtpd can do what you need. There are a ton of details to understand and get right, so reading the docs is really your best starting point. Most of what you've described is a bog standard mail server with IMAP hosting, plus a mail client that knows about multiple mail accounts, plus an IMAP fetch (maybe?). A better solution would be mailserv - OpenBSD based and it includes all of the management tools for a mail server: github.com/mailserv The Rails manager app is way cool. Lee
Re: Versioning file system?
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, [iso-8859-1] Zé Loff wrote: Not sure, but it sounds like you are looking for something like this: http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/rsync_time_machine.html Much more useful than a time machine lookalike: rsnapshot http://www.rsnapshot.org/ No fancy gui (who needs it?), .. configurage for as may versions as you like - hourly, daily, weekly, yearly, and keep each as long as you wish. The key is using hardlinks on the target filesystem, so browse to any date (e.g. daly.0) and you have a complete directory listing. It's not CVS, but in some cases it is more usable. Lee
Re: offline mail setup for road warrior
On Sat, 9 Mar 2013, Jiri B wrote: I was recently looking for a way how to suck mails from mail proxy in DMZ to intranet mail server. Postfix can work that way, but you might be better served using an IMAP connection with a mail client first to downloaded headers remove cruft, *then* downloading. Lee
Re: The ultimate OpenBSD email server
At 08:38 AM 8/16/2012, Joel Carnat wrote: Le 15 août 2012 à 16:16, L. V. Lammert a écrit : This looked interesting so I had a look at it for a few hours. My (2 cents) conclusions are: - it has a pretty interface indeed ; - it has a few configuration bugs (php modules are not enabled and it expects 5.2, not 5.3) ; - it is supposed to use sqlgrey but it seems it isn't linked to postfix ; - why isn't it using spamd(8) ; - it stores clear passwords ; - roundcube and suhosin don't play well together ; - it has to be installed with its own mysql db. no way to use external (if not using the console). I have written a quick review on my WordPress instance. Just PM for the URL if you wish to read more. Hi Joel, I would appreciate reading your review, .. we have a number of Mailserv installations in service, and I had planned on tweaking the installation so we could use it internally once the github version had stabilized. Lee
Re: The ultimate OpenBSD email server
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Mikkel Bang wrote: But with so many people recommending so many different tools, it gets hard to come to a conclusion. Looks like I'm finally arriving at this though: postfix (postfix-anti-UCE.txt) + dspam - what do you guys think? Take a look at mailserv, https://github.com/mailserv. The admin interface is nice, and all components are integrated. Lee
Re: Sendmail at home
At 12:30 PM 5/10/2012, you wrote: I want to setup sendmail so that I can send mail from my home network. I have no experience with sendmail outside a corporate environment where DNS makes everything happen automagically. I have a Gmail account. Is sending via Gmail possible or sensible? Any advice would be appreciated. Google sendmail forward gmail and register your domain name with gmail. Your local sendmail instance will login and forward SMTP traffic via gmail, .. you can either IMAP from gmail or use the web interface. Free for small domains. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Anonymous wrote: Whooever told him to man up was justified. HUH?? WTF?? That's a CROCK!! It's amuzing to watch the flames flying, however, there *ARE* some people on the list that have an interest in solving problems. It IS unfortunate, however, that the actual PROBLEM and RESOLUTION may be hard to identify through all the noise. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: And yet you, L.V. Lammert, use the code, don't clearly explain what was failing on your system, and behave in exactly the way you rant about. Now THAT's quite laughahble! The ONLY problem here is with all the IDIOTS spouting CRAP with no interest whatsoever in solving the PROBLEM that was expressed. For those that happen to google this thread trying to find the solution: upgrading *would* have fixed his system due to the various steps done during upgrades, BZZZT! WRONG! If the system rebooted clean [which this one did], the problem would not have been found during a normal upgrade. Again, misdirection, tons of rheotiric deflecting the issues, and normal behavior of many on this list DID totally obscure the problem. *BUT* that's the way it works here. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Amit Kulkarni wrote: a recent system does a fsck -fp of each partition, so it would have fixed your problem. Would 4.4? 4.5? I don't think so, .. if you recall, the system is 4.3 so a normal upgrade (i.e. not a clean install) would not have fixed the problem. you are very ungrateful, by insulting a person who helped you, for free. Sorry, Insults beget Insults - that's the OBSD way, is it not? If you would take a little less effort to divert the original question, we would all have a much nicer experience. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: snip the BS There is no way of knowing if it would have found the problem, so why continue with this drivel? Contrary to the lengthy diatribes here trying to distract from the original problem an solution: 1) The problem with locate was traced to a bunch of session files; 2) The problem was fixed by cleaning them the hard way. There is no way to know if an upgrade would have fixed the problem, as upgrading is/was/would be just a distraction; it is not good practice to try and obscure the problem, and I do not understand why some people here like to expouse such practices. Sure, there is no support for 4.3, but, then I did not ASK for support on 4.3 (to read the OP). Don't bother to try and dixtract from the original problem - it juse makes it harder for those LOOKING for the problem and solution to find it in all the noise. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Paul de Weerd wrote: With apologies to all, this will be my last reply on this thread. Really? That WOULD be nice. Hopefully you will abide by your promise. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
It was truly a shame that so many people here prefer to start their flamethrowers rather than offer any sort of constructive information! In this case, THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AND IT WOULD MOST LIKELY NOT HAVE BEEN FIXED WITH A NORMAL UPGRADE! !! !!! Before reading further, please REREAD the statement above. As it turns out, there WERE some folks here that had excellent suggestions [privately], and that helped significantly in isolating the problem. Thanks to who got me back on topic and reminded me of this possible issue, .. and who suggested the simplest solution: find / ! \( -fstype ffs -or -fstype ufs -or -fstype ext2fs \) -prune -or -path /tmp -prune -or -path /var/tmp -prune -or -path /usr/tmp -prune -or -print /tmp/locate test Running the find separately identified the file system problem, and it was easily fixed as a result. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Theo de Raadt wrote: On 2012 Jan 18 (Wed) at 10:15:34 -0600 (-0600), L. V. Lammert wrote: :Running the find separately identified the file system problem, and :it was easily fixed as a result. So, what was the actual problem? Permissions? Idiot near the keyboard. Guess it takes one to try and identify another! Seriously, I have nothing but respect for the Dev team, .. which is why the OP was has anyone ever seen. I did not EXPECT support from Dev's, so, to some degree, your insistance on upgrading was totally OT and not worth posting. Someone may experience a similar problem in the future, .. and as was mentioned, others have in the past. The solution posted may be of help in such cases. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Peter Hessler wrote: On 2012 Jan 18 (Wed) at 10:15:34 -0600 (-0600), L. V. Lammert wrote: :Running the find separately identified the file system problem, and :it was easily fixed as a result. So, what was the actual problem? Permissions? No, a file system problem. In this case, cross-linked files from a Rails application. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
At 03:59 PM 1/18/2012, you wrote: Wait - so there's an issue that you have identified, with help from members on this list ? And you're refusing to divulge the exact details that would probably help resolve the problem in future OpenBSD releases ? Of course, an exposition was to be expected, ... an off topic one that proves that you don't read what I posted! If you check the rest of the thread, you will see that I did post the exact cause; more details I will not provide as what's there is sufficient to describe the problem and any *more* detail would just be flame fodder. That's a great thank you to all those people that helped you, Lee, especially the ones you don't mention by name here below. Just great. Well, if you DO want credit, thanks for the wisdom hidden after the exegis! (I do not name names without permission, *especially* on this list.) Good that you have at least taken the time and effort to make us reread your own little flame (in all caps, because that helps so much to bring the message across). Confirmed - thanks! Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: Any progress? I see plenty of replies to the people that you *don't* think are helping you but no reply to my question about what user you think locate.updatedb runs as, something which does factor into being able to solve this... The answer was already posted, .. perhaps you missed it? Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kevin Chadwick wrote: I'm surprised you've had so much help. You shouldn't be, .. there *ARE* a few decent folks here on the list. Personally and If I had time I'd want to find out the problem but I'd be wiping and reinstalling from scratch anyway, especially with an unknown cause. So, which is it? The attitude 'an upgrade will fix everything' is really pretty dumb [though the core folks are certainly justfied as the problem is most like not an issue for ongoing development, but that wasn't the original question, was it?]. If something isn't working properly, throwing it away is ***NOT*** the best solution! Would you take your car to the junkyard just because you have a dome light that isn't working? *Especially* in this case since locate is a standard utility with a shell script that has not changed between 4.3 4.9, and I expect it hasn't for 5.0 either. If the system utilities have not changed, then the problem must be elsewhere; blowing away a system just because you can't find the problem is just plain stupid. Thanks again to those that actually read the original question, .. I am continuing to try and resolve the issue. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
At 05:59 AM 1/12/2012, you wrote: Is this a new phenomenon? That is, did it use to work earlier and something is now broken? In that case, what did you change? :-) Yes, .. nothing. (I'm not even gonna comment on the rest of this discussion. Ah, yet I just did, didn't I? Oh well, in that case... Of course! Can't resist g! I feel it would have been prudent of you not to insult this community when denied help because of *your* own failure to play by the rules. ExCUSE me? Who is insulting whom? I asked a simple question [forgetting for a moment the propensities of this list], and was totally flamed for trying to solve a problem. We happily participate in the user community, as you, because OBSD is a quality product maintained by good folks that value technology; the fact that USERS like to crap on OTHER users is exactly why many people just turn off and tune out. Recommendations to upgrade are total BS - the system is 4.3 for reasons which I will not share with the list because they are not germaine to any issue raised herein. Such comments (beyond Theo's first one, to which he is more than entltled) are pure Obsd MISC - off topic, provide no useful information, and only worth reading for entertainment value. Not only is it counterproductive for your own problem's sake, all this annoying bickering that flares up from time to time wears on everyones patience, and I for one don't like to see this community wither away because some individuals can't accept that there are a certain set of rules by which to act in order to both get something out of the community and to contribute to it. ExCUSE me again? If you don't like flame wars, why do YOU participate? Enough said - thanks to the folks that actually had some *CONSTRUCTIVE* suggestions, they are the 'wheat' that provide value on this list, as opposed to folks like yourself that are purely 'chaff'. Lee
locate weirdness
Have a 4.3 server with a really weird problem: locate ONLY indexes one [user file] partition! IOW, no binaries are indexed, nor is /usr/, /var, .. All filesystems are ffs; I deleted /var/db/locate.db and recreated with /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb more than once; locate.rc is stock: == TMPDIR=/var/tmp FCODES=/var/db/locate.database SEARCHPATHS=/ PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp /usr/tmp FILESYSTEMS=ffs ufs ext2fs [comments pruned] = The locate database seems to be normal: Database: /var/db/locate.database Compression: Front: 19.48%, Bigram: 65.90%, Total: 14.52% Filenames: 218512, Characters: 14825215, Database size: 2153551 Bigram characters: 734303, Integers: 5440, 8-Bit characters: 3 = Trying to troubleshoot a Perl module problem, and locate is not returning any hits except user files g! Any pointers on what is 'intefering' with the process? Lee
Re: locate weirdness
At 10:41 AM 1/11/2012, Theo de Raadt wrote: Have a 4.3 server [rest deleted] There is a ton of documentation that makes it clear you are on your own more than two releases back. So, you're advocating incomplete information? Is that not a bigger problem? Lee
Re: locate weirdness
At 01:04 PM 1/11/2012, Barry Grumbine wrote: Bite the bullet, upgrade, life is better at 5.0 Sorry, but *UPGRADING* isn't the question - the question is why locate is not working properly. If nobody has ever seen such a problem, it would be quite more forthright to just admit that than spout the normal crap this list promulgates. But, then, I should have expected multiple replies that are off topic, of no help, and not worth the time to read. Sorry, I had momentarily forgotten the definition of OBSD Misc - my bad. If nobody can answer the question, that's is not a problem, just say so! Lee
Re: locate weirdness
At 01:30 PM 1/11/2012, Jeremy O'Brien wrote: 4.3 was released May 1, 2008. That's almost 4 years old software. What are you expecting here? Someone to check out the code from that version and deeply inspect what may be causing your problem, that is more than likely already fixed in a later version? Another typical reply - the question was has anyone ever seen anything like this, .. or, perhaps, what could be causing it. No need for the off-topic diatribes - a simple no would more than suffice. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Marian Hettwer wrote: Hi, Am 11.01.12 20:17, schrieb L. V. Lammert: At 01:04 PM 1/11/2012, Barry Grumbine wrote: Bite the bullet, upgrade, life is better at 5.0 Sorry, but *UPGRADING* isn't the question - the question is why locate is not working properly. No. You were advised to upgrade, since 4.3 is not supported anymore. Heck, probably nobody can even remember whether something was odd with locate in 4.3. Upgrade to a supported release and if you still face problems, come back to the list. Try to look from a different angle here. Say, you would have an old Debian Sarge release (years old) and you would approach a debian mailing list with something is weird with locate, pretty sure you would get a lot of advises to upgrade first, test then, and if problem persists, come back. All good and jolly! ./Marian Hope you got off on the bs, .. as usual, offtopic, nothing useful, not worth readying. Quite repetitive of the other BS, actually. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: Also, in order to help others when they encounter a similar issue, please be sure to post what the problem and/or solution were once you figure them out. Philip Guenther Amen! At least there's a chance it would turn up in the search engines. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: Lesson #1: examine the anomalous data for clues. So, you're saying that locate /usr | grep ^/usr | head returns nothing but Yep! As does locate /usr locate /home | grep ^/home | head returns something? (/home being a stand-in for whatever your unsaid [user file] partition is) Perhaps you should investigate how those two directories differ? That was the original question - both are ffs, both are rw, the only difference between then that /home is nosuid, however that does not affect locate on 3.3, 4.9, or 5.0 (just tested). TFTR! Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Marian Hettwer m...@kernel32.de wrote: ... ([foobar@bistromath] ~)$ time sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb Password: Ah, but that's *not* how locate.updatedb is invoked by the cronjob! There's a reason I called out the need to mimic that when trying to replicate the problem while walking through locate.updatedb manually... Agreed, .. but if locate.update does NOT run as root, that would seem to indicate some problem other than permissions. BTW - Looked at a couple of other possiblities, .. mysql had a lot of space in log files so I freed up most of them, no change; the other possibility could be that of a memory problem, but I have no knowledge of 'bigmem' and how that works. Lee
Re: locate weirdness
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Philip Guenther wrote: Agreed, .. but if locate.update does NOT run as root, that would seem to indicate some problem other than permissions. If you're saying what I think you're saying, then I disagree and think your logic is backwards. What user do you think locate.updatedb is run as? If it does not run as root, then it isn't a permission issue as running as root provides all required permissions, eh? I have never seen locate.updatedb fail when run as root (3.0 to 5.0, actually), .. but, then, it isn't exactly 'failing', it just isn't indexing anything except /home. The only other possible hypothesis, is that it is running out of memory; one would expect some sort of error to be returned in that case and a blank database as a result, not one partially populated. Lee
p5 mysql
Trying to get Perl MySQL working on an older production server, .. MySQL is running fine for php. Installed p5-DBD-mysql-4.005, .. however it DNW. Some of the cpan notes indicate a configuration step is to be executed after the installation process? Any pointers would be appreciated. Lee
milter-greylist / postfix
One of our mailservers (Obsd 4.8, Postfix 2.6.5, milter-greylist 4.2.5) decided to stop passing incoming email this AM, .. milter-greylist is giving all incoming mail a 451, even though the souce IP is listed in the greylist database. Might there be a way to isolate the exact issue? It's been working fine for a couple of years now, so I hate to start mucking with things if there is a way to actually isolate and fix the problem. TIA, Lee
Re: create a backup of an online server
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011, Wesley M. wrote: Hi, I want to backup our mailserver(4.7) in production. I read : http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html#DupFS Much simpler to: Do a mysqldump and direct to a known backup location Use rsnapshot to backup all of your data (including the email system, home, and the mysqlbackup) mysqldump will provide a 'known state' of the database, which will make a restore possible; backing up files will only work if you shut down mysql during the backup process - something not realistic for a production server. Lee
Re: What generates the OpenBSD page?
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011, Eric Furman wrote: The only reason I haven't added you to my kill file is your questions and responses are sooo idiotically moronic that you are hilarious! You are so fucking stupid you are falling down hilarious. What makes it even more funny is how smart you think you are! LMFAO! God, if I had a nickle for every fucking retard like you I've met that thought that they were a genius Oh yea, I sent this to the list also to humiliate you. Please keep posting though, you really crack me up. Thanks for the post - it is MUCH more entertaining to read such drivel than the original quesiton.
Re: USB mouse
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, Zantgo wrote: How I can run USB mouse? Zantgo Fully supported in SuSE, ..
Re: Are there any virtualization solutions for OpenBSD? (!important: no package from ports!)
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: If you are Going to use linux as your dom0 I STRONGLY recommend against virtual box. Vb is the retarded stillborn twin of kvm. Kvm is twice as fast in mainline and not controlled by oracle For production use, Xen and orchestrate seems to be getting pretty good reviews, .. the only advantage to VirtualBox is phpVirtualBox. Lee
Re: Apache problems
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Tomas Bodzar wrote: *Something* seems to be breaking, causing Apache to 'think' it's out of resources. Eg. for amd64 limit of ~4000 processes was resolved only before couple of months/weeks (not sure about correct time). A LOT of improvements from 4.3 times regarding performance and speed of system so you will be better to try upgrade first and see if problems are still in place. Hi Thomas, TFTR, but you missed the original premise - the system has been running for many years with MORE children authorized, and no resource limits have *changed*, so I don't see how it can be a resource issue. Something is borking Apache and causing it to use UP all resources in an 'unauthorized' manner, or *think* they have all bee used. Lee
Re: Apache problems
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Denis Fondras wrote: Could this be linked to some Apache Killer ? That would make sense, is/was there any way to identify vectors of the Apache attacks? Lee
Re: Apache problems
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Amit Kulkarni wrote: Recently there was a security issue with Apache. It was based on a perl script, search google. Maybe you are experiencing traffic and the realted problems because of that. Is there any way to find out if the version in 4.3 was susceptable to the attack? Lee
Apache problems
We have an older server (4.3) that is getting cranky - two or three times a week Apache just 'stops', and the only issue I can find is in the common error log (i.e. not one of the VHs), which shows unable to fork: [error] (35)Resource temporarily unavailable: fork: Unable to fork new process It *may* be related to cronolog, as it seems to happen when one of the VHs looses track of it's log connection. Has anyone experienced a random problem like this? Any thought on how to isolate the problem? Lee
Re: Apache problems
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Jeremie Courreges-Anglas wrote: [error] (35)Resource temporarily unavailable: fork: Unable to fork new process Isn't running 4.3 kinda cranky? Only in the past six months - pretty much bulletproof for many years. $SEARCH_ENGINE $your_error_message gives, for example, this result: http://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg36388.html Unfortunatley, that isn't the issue. It has run fine with max_clients set at 150; when this started happening, I ran it down to 64. All the others results lead to the same conclusion: your httpd process has reached its resources limits. Either your problem is due to the use of sudo apachectl (use /etc/rc.d/httpd), or you'll have to give httpd more room, by tweaking login.conf. It isn't a resource problem, however, .. :datasize=infinity:\ :maxproc=infinity:\ :openfiles-cur=128:\ :stacksize-cur=8M:\ *Something* seems to be breaking, causing Apache to 'think' it's out of resources. Lee
Anyterm or ??
Like to setup an ssh client behind an SSL connection, .. is there anything like anyterm available? Lee
Re: build from source vs. rc.d files
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Owain Ainsworth wrote: man 8 sysmerge pkg_add mc is another good solution. Lee
Re: Control of OpenBSD through a web interface
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, [ISO-8859-1] Jean-Frangois SIMON wrote: Hi, I have a remote controlled machine which I manage by ssh and yet I'm in the process of making up a small web page through which basic commands can be passed. I have no clear idea regarding how to design this, in the first place I thought about a cgi script written in C which I did manage to have it say hello world at the present time, but not yet much more. There's not yet clear clues regarding how to make this peace of web interface talk to the system and I would like to make it clean by means of elegant way to deal with web page - system communication. Any clue regarding the way it could be ? Thanks, Jean-Frangois If you really need a web-GUI, Why not use webmin? Lee
Re: fdisk(8) missing from sparc64 install48.iso?
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Kent Watsen wrote: Welcome to the OpenBSD/sparc64 4.8 installation program. (I)nstall, (U)pgrade or (S)hell? S # fdisk sh: fdisk: not found Ahh, ... why would you want to do put DOS MBR on a Sparc system??? Lee
SMP Advice
Can't seem to find the SMP HCL results posted anywhere - does anyone have a recommendation? Lee
Re: Computer stops responding (freezes up) during uncorrectable data error
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Gordon Ferris wrote: We waited too long to replace the failed drive, so there were errors on both drives in the mirror, so the data was not completely restored. Backups were not as recent as we would have liked. Since the drive didn't completely fail, it seemed worth trying to retrieve some data where possible from it. dd_rescue will give you the best chance of recovering bad sectors. Lee
GigE Chipset
Looking for some low cost GigE NICs for a lab setup, .. as usual, however, the chipset is not listed on the card description. Is anyone aware of the chipset/compatibility for any of these? NETGEAR GA311 Allied Telesis AT 2916T Linksys EG1032 Thanks! Lee
Re: opensmtpd with custom passwd file
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera wrote: Hi! I've been using smtpd on my server for some time now, and I want to host e-mail accounts for a couple of friends who've asked me to. You might want to consider github.com/mailserv for multiple domain and/or 'mail only' users. Allard's Mailserver was recently open sourced. Nice Ruby/Rails management interface, .. currently 4.8 and will track Release going forward. We have it installed at a number of locations. Lee
Re: OT - gmail alternatives
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, James Hozier wrote: The only issue I have with running my own mail server is that I can receive e-mails, but for whatever reason I cannot send out e-mails. I'm assuming it's because mail servers are denying e-mails from my IP or something since I'm on a residential connection. It doesn't even reach the Spam box, just doesn't show up at all even though a test with telnet says the mail was successfully sent out. Two things are probably occurring: 1) Many ISPs block outbound email on port 25 to prevent SPAM abuse. 2) You will not be able to send email directly to most email servers because your server identify cannot be verified. The best solution is to forward your SMTP traffic trough your ISP. Lee
Re: OT - gmail alternatives
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, James Hozier wrote: I checked DNSBL and my IP seems OK for all of them. So it's just 3, and Verizon won't set DNS settings for me so unless I run my own DNS servers there's nothing I can do to resolve my IP address into my domain name instead of my ISP hostname? (Instead of @verizon.net hostname translation @mydomain.com) Even IF you run your own DNS servers, you don't have access to setup the reverse DNS. The only way to get reverse DNS is to purchase the service from Verizon with a static IP. The only way to run your own server with dymanic IP and have it validate properly is to forward through Verizon's SMTP server that is authorized for your location. [Or use Gmail or another public provider for your SMTP traffic.] Lee
Re: Donations
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Theo == Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org writes: Theo If you don't know why I am sending this mail.. you are reading US Theo managed news, and need to much much more informed Assuming you're talking about PayPal freezing the WikeLeaks account, Assange could only have been looking for publicity, as nobody but a total idiot would use PayPal for such a political hot potato! I agree totally that there are a lot of idiots running parts of the US system, but at least they ARE predictable. Lee
Re: Donations
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:41:13 -, L. V. Lammert l...@omnitec.net wrote: Assuming you're talking about PayPal freezing the WikeLeaks account, Assange could only have been looking for publicity, as nobody but a total idiot would use PayPal for such a political hot potato! You talk like Assange did something wrong. The right to free press is never wrong. Didn't say he did anything *wrong* - I said that he must have planned it for publicity. I would not accuse him of the other possibility, being too dumb as to not anticipate such an action. Theo asking donations are not given to a company that arbitrarily decide if/when they wish to pass that money on, whether driven by the wikileaks cause or not, is a sensible decision. Have you ever tried to read the TOS? Any such organization with unlimited legal resources can do whatever the wish - as long as it's not contrary to the current legal winds, they will get away with it. I would not wish my donation to a project eated up by politics along its way. Agree there - I'm not saying USE PayPal, just that he must have done it for the publicity, as the other possibility does not say much for his intelligence. Lee
Re: Donations
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: I agree totally that there are a lot of idiots running parts of the US system, but at least they ARE predictable. Being predictable is just not enough. Hardly You would enjoy predictibility of You being put to prison on suspection of possibility of You commiting some crime. Actually, being predictable ALLOWS planning to avoid such problems! Ever head of Don Quixote? THe moral of the storey - pick the battles you have a chance of winning and avoid the rest. Lee
Re: Donations
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010, Theo de Raadt wrote: Ever head of Don Quixote? THe moral of the storey - pick the battles you have a chance of winning and avoid the rest. Such an American viewpoint. It was intended to be common sense. I'll be the first to agree that some of the companies here in the US don't operate honorably, but, then you should know that in the first place and not complain so loudely when something does happen to prove it. It didn't work out for Don Quixote either. It does make a nice play, however. Lee
Re: installation sets not found on CD
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:52:38PM -0800, Scott Stanley wrote: Installer makes it all the way to installation set(s) location, then kernel says: ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0X20 ASCQ 0X00 cd0(atapiscsi0:0:0): Check condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x20 SENSE KEY: Illegal Request ASC/ASCQ: ASC 0X20 ASCQ 0X00 If you're having problems with the CD drive, why not mount or copy the CD on another machine and install via ftp?? Lee
Re: Building a Practical Penetration Test Lab
At 04:01 AM 11/12/2010, Kevin Chadwick wrote: If you insist and I don't know about the latest version, then vmware is likely much more reliable than virtualbox but still more problematic than a true install. There is a blog on the virtual box site by theo stating he can't believe any OS allows the problems virtualbox introduces(d). VirtualBox might have problems, but at least it produces a working install with a UI - VMWare seems to have so many variations that they forgot to include a USABLE one without purchasing the expensive management tools. We did find out that VirtualBox must run on a hardware-capable platform [AMD-3 or better] to successfully build an OBSD image, however. Lee
Re: 2-3 General Question
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2010-09-22, LOL elvis4...@gmail.com wrote: Does openBSD have a tools that search packages ? The only way I found it's by installing ports tree but I think it's a bit stupid to have all the tree just to a search. pkg_add pkg_mgr For *packages*, it's much simpler to create a pkg_find alias (originaly from Matt Van Mater): export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/`uname -a | cut -d -f 3`/packages/`uname -a | cut -d -f 5`/ alias pkg_find=echo ls | ftp -a $PKG_PATH | sed 's/.*\ //g' | grep -i If you have a local repository, just substitute in PKG_PATH. Lee
Re: MTA choice
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 open...@e-solutions.re wrote: Hi, I want to install a mailserver. What is the easiest and the most secure solution ? OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead Sendmail. Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ? Thank's. For a basic mailserver, there's no reason to not use standard Senamdaill To make it even simpler, install Webmin - the sendmail manager tool is very useful. Lee
Re: Mysql connection from within php
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, What you get is Not what you see wrote: Freshly installed on openbsd 4.6 mysql,php and php5-mysql packages. Done the configs. Now php and mysql works. But I couldnt make it connect to mysql from within php with such a command mysql_connect(localhost,user,pass) It used to give Cant connect to mysql through socket error till I change the command to mysql_connect(127.0.0.1,user,pass) I want to learn why? Because the socket is in /var, .. and default apache chroot's to /var/www. I believe there are tricks to make it work, but it's simpler to just connect @127.0.0.1. Lee
Re: OpenBSD 4.7 Released, May 19 2010
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Bryan Irvine wrote: You sure? FTP Listing of /pub/OpenBSD/ at ftp.openbsd.org Parent Directory Works fine here, .. you must have a problem with your /etc/hosts? ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/ Lee
Re: Differences between www.openbsd.org and openbsd.org
On Wed, 19 May 2010, Ted Unangst wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Bohdan Tashchuk btashc...@yahoo.com wrote: I suggest that there are many clueless people like me out there. The default behavior should be changed. opendbsd.org should redirect to www.openbsd.org, and the people who need to access the machine in Theo's basement should go to cvs.openbsd.org. Telling the people who access the machine in Theo's basement what they should do has never been particularly well received by those people. OTOH, *directing* the muddled masses to HIS machine [even if by mistake] would give pause, would it not? Doesn't seem like a good policy security to me, .. Lee
Re: OpenBSD 4.7 pkg_add error
On Thu, 20 May 2010, Andreas Gerdd wrote: # PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/ # pkg_add -vvi nano Nano installation stucked at 76%, did not move for a long time, then I terminated the process by CTRLC, The main repository is getting hammered, .. try a 2nd or 3rd level mirror. Lee
Re: crontab last day of the month
On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Antti Harri wrote: Hi all, I want to hijack this thread a little because it sounds like OP has similar problem to mine. I'm rotating logs with newsyslog and for example for web logs I keep 12 logs available (actually it looks like count=12 keeps 13 files available but anyway that's not my problem..), rotated monthly so I have logs from present moment to one year back like this: Instead of rotating logs, consider using cronolog - no restart of Apache requierd. It maintains a daemon for each virtual host, and automatically rolls files over at the end of any defined period. Lee
Re: Backup and monitoring
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, axl melkhov wrote: Hello Community I'm new to OpenBSD, I want to write a script for backup and monitoring changes all files on the disk. 2nd the recommendation for rsnapshot. Simple solution to many problems (including backing up files with root privledges) that are tricky with rsync, as the rsnapshot machine is logging into the machine you're backing up. What do you think will be the most elegant solution for this problem? rsnapshot will also keep as many versions as you configure, .. e.g. seven days, four weeks, six months, .. Lee
Re: Joomla - MySQL Problem: Could not connect to MySQL
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Sunnz wrote: 2010/3/12 Daniel Gracia Garallar danie...@electronicagracia.com: Not quite a solution, I think. What about if /var/www mounts in a different filesystem than /var? Hardlinks from chrooted environments don't seem to be a wise solution anyway... Just IMHO. In that case you could change the location mysqld itself uses to be inside the chroot. Or do you actually have a solution? The solution is to use 127.0.0.1 for the connection, as stated previously. Lee
Re: Joomla - MySQL Problem: Could not connect to MySQL
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jan wrote: Unable to connect to the database: Could not connect to MySQL 1) Create a simple phpinfo() page check to see that your MySQL is configured properly. Did you install php-mysql? 2) I'm also able open the DB using mysql -u root -p. The only valid test is with the UID PW that you created for Joomla - you did create it, didn't you? Lee
Re: How to create an installation image of OpenBSD for a USB stick?
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Ron McDowell wrote: I have used UNetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to build an OpenBSD USB stick image from the OpenBSD ISO image. I don't remember the exact details, but it was pretty straightforward. I built it on a friend's XP machine but looks like there's a Linux version too. The Linux version works well - it will build bootable USB image from any bootable ISO. Lee
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, chefren wrote: Hehe, mentioning Amsterdam, you dare! Seriously seeking trouble? Moi? I didn't bring up the subject, .. p.s. Frantisek mentioned webmin, Suggested earlier, .. and replied. Your OT, stands for I'm lazy and not so competent nor creative but willing to scream like a puppy on misc! for me. No, you haven't been reading this thread, but I'm not going to review it - it's a shame that some people here take more pleasure in creating something to bitch about than either providing useful information. Thanks anyway, .. BTW - There were neither screaming nor insults coming from this direction. Lee
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Bret S. Lambert wrote: Your original post[1] said, and I cut'n'paste, that would be useable for basic sysadmin types. How the fuck can anyone comprehend a question you're incapable of asking correctly? Certainly not you, .. who, amongst others, are far more interested in spouting crap than providing any useful information. Sometimes it's amazing how vocal some people are, .. I guess we're lucky that thare are a good bunch of folks out there more interested in creating good code tham spouting bs. Lee
Re: OT, .. but has anyone seen a crontab editor
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Tobias Ulmer wrote: In the time you've been spamming my inbox, every half-competent sysadmin could have learned ncurses(3) and write the perfect(tm) interface for his purpose. Sorryk, my posts have been but a pittance in the BS spouted on this thread, .. it's a shame that nobody bothered to reply with any useful information. I'll just leave this here: http://doxfer.com/Webmin/ScheduledCommands#The_Scheduled_Commands_module Guess you didn't read my original reply - but that's OK, I know it might have been buried inthe crap. Lee
