Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-15 Thread jepael
So is this also the reason why I cannot boot OpenBSD from a USB memory stick? Because BIOS and OpenBSD use different geometries? Can I somehow force OpenBSD to use the BIOS geometry on the USB disk? How? - Jani On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:07:57PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Feb

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 06:23:31PM -0800, Marco S Hyman said that frantisek holop writes: so what's up with these dick measurements? I think you got that part just right :-) Expecthing cyl * head * sec/cyl to come up with the number of actual sectors on the disk is your problem.

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread Shane J Pearson
On 13/02/2007, at 8:18 PM, frantisek holop wrote: how am i (and fdisk) supposed to make partitions on CHS boundaries if instead of 19457/255/63 fdisk sees the disk as 152627/64/32? What is the point in trying to align to such boundaries, when the physical HDD does not have 255 or 64 heads

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:56:24PM +1100, Shane J Pearson said that On 13/02/2007, at 8:18 PM, frantisek holop wrote: how am i (and fdisk) supposed to make partitions on CHS boundaries if instead of 19457/255/63 fdisk sees the disk as 152627/64/32? What is the point in trying to align

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:07:57PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:56:24PM +1100, Shane J Pearson said that On 13/02/2007, at 8:18 PM, frantisek holop wrote: how am i (and fdisk) supposed to make partitions on CHS boundaries if instead of 19457/255/63 fdisk

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:18:50AM -0500, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: So OpenBSD uses 64*32, divides the number of sectors (which all devices do provide) by this value to give a cylinder count, and truncates the fractional cylinder. So up to 64*31 = 1984 sectors will be 'wasted'. Windows

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 07:55:16AM -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:18:50AM -0500, Kenneth R Westerback wrote: So OpenBSD uses 64*32, divides the number of sectors (which all devices do provide) by this value to give a cylinder count, and truncates the fractional

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:18:50AM -0500, Kenneth R Westerback said that OpenBSD aligns to boundaries. It just makes up the boundaries, as do other OS's. It's unfortunate that all OS's don't make up the same boundaries but until you can convince all OS developers to use the same fake

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-13 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 04:50:27PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:18:50AM -0500, Kenneth R Westerback said that OpenBSD aligns to boundaries. It just makes up the boundaries, as do other OS's. It's unfortunate that all OS's don't make up the same boundaries

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-12 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:40:52PM -0500, Nick Holland said that the cylinders, heads, sectors and the number of total sectors do not match. what does this mean? It means translation is stupid, but we keep doing it. :) ok, now just to make things more interesting, i have found a disk

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-12 Thread Marco S Hyman
frantisek holop writes: so what's up with these dick measurements? I think you got that part just right :-) Expecthing cyl * head * sec/cyl to come up with the number of actual sectors on the disk is your problem. Modern disk don't have a fixed number of sec/track. They use Zone Bit

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:40:52PM -0500, Nick Holland said that It means translation is stupid, but we keep doing it. :) it is not really the translation that got me worried (although wouldn't it be more consistent to use the n x 255 x 63 version everywhere?) but the different number of

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread mickey
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:40:52PM -0500, Nick Holland said that It means translation is stupid, but we keep doing it. :) it is not really the translation that got me worried (although wouldn't it be more consistent to

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:40:52PM -0500, Nick Holland said that It means translation is stupid, but we keep doing it. :) it is not really the

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread mickey
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:40:52PM -0500, Nick Holland said that It means translation is

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread chefren
On 2/8/07 3:09 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 07:40:52PM -0500, Nick Holland said

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:09:10PM +0100, mickey said that what? dick measurement techniques? a bit preoccupied with dicks and measurements, aren't we? perhaps if you associate disk geometries with dicks, maybe you also talk of nipples instead of keys on your keyboard, etc. actually not a

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread obsd
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:09:10 +0100, mickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread mickey
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:22:21PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 3:09 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread mickey
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:01:07AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:09:10 +0100, mickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread chefren
On 2/8/07 4:13 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:22:21PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 3:09 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100, mickey said that On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:13:29AM

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread mickey
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:27:21PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 4:13 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:22:21PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 3:09 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:02:32PM +0100, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:06:45PM +0100,

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread chefren
On 2/8/07 5:59 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 05:26:01PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 5:04 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 04:27:21PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 4:13 PM, mickey wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:22:21PM +0100, chefren wrote: On 2/8/07 3:09 PM,

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-02-08 Thread Lars Hansson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And not long ago I wrote to the list that this list *is* nice and people don't get attacked unless they become obnoxious. Please thank you for proving me absolutely wrong. Yeah because there are absolutely never, EVER, in a million years, any harsh replies on any

dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-01-30 Thread frantisek holop
hi there, please compare the following for my external usb disk: amaaq sudo fdisk sd0 Disk: sd0 geometry: 60801/255/63 [976768065 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0xAA55 Starting Ending LBA Info: #: idC H S -C H S [ start: size ]

Re: dmesg and fdisk do not match about usb external disk

2007-01-30 Thread Nick Holland
frantisek holop wrote: hi there, please compare the following for my external usb disk: amaaq sudo fdisk sd0 Disk: sd0 geometry: 60801/255/63 [976768065 Sectors] Offset: 0 Signature: 0xAA55 Starting Ending LBA Info: #: idC H S -C H S [