Re: How can I install 4 OS'es on one disk?

2007-10-08 Thread Dag Richards
Amarendra Godbole wrote: On 10/7/07, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new laptop that I would like to set up to have 4 different OS's on. The OS's I would like to install are: OpenBSD FreeBSD Linux Windows (XP r Vista) Is it possible to do this on the one disk. I do have enough space,

Re: How can I install 4 OS'es on one disk?

2007-10-08 Thread steve szmidt
On Sunday 07 October 2007 14:08, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/7/07, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new laptop that I would like to set up to have 4 different OS's Well all the OSes you listed can just boot directly from the MBR (see biosboot(8) and FAQ #4

Re: How can I install 4 OS'es on one disk?

2007-10-08 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 13:47 -0400, Nick Holland wrote: Linux will use an extended partition, but I'm not sure if it can boot from one, nor do I know if a boot loader will extract it and boot from there (and I suspect there will be vendor-specific BIOS questions, too). That's your problem to

Re: Difficult routing problem

2007-10-08 Thread Layne Evans
Thomas Schoeller wrote: this will not work. ipsec will not encap packets that not belong to a flow. you need a second ipsec flow like on GW B: ike esp from LAN_B/24 to vendor/18 peer OPENBSD_A_External and on GW A: ike esp from VENDOR/18 to LAN_B/24 peer OPENBSD_B_External and then a route on

Re: X11 very slow with SMP kernel

2007-10-08 Thread Karl Sjodahl - dunceor
On 10/7/07, Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:21:59 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter N. M. Hansteen) wrote: Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can see X redraw the screen top down very slowly when I use the SMP kernel on my Thinkpad T60. I can actually

Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Timo Schoeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi list, myself in need to build some big, phat machines (8GByte, or even 16GByte RAM) for a customer that run OpenBSD *and* having seen (again) a discussion on 'how much RAM is supported' [0] I decided to i) write this email to see if there's

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread mickey
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:23:12AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:14:05AM +, mickey wrote: myself in need to build some big, phat machines (8GByte, or even 16GByte RAM) for a customer that run OpenBSD *and* having seen (again) a discussion on 'how

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Tonnerre LOMBARD
Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:44:48AM +, mickey wrote: PAE is slow and has hairy paws. I am glad that we have real amd64 machines now so we don't need it anymore. besides that what do you think amd64 runs? (: it uses the same pae as i386. and it is not any faster. learn what are

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread mickey
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:43:25AM +, mickey wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:23:12AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:14:05AM +, mickey wrote: myself in need to build some big, phat machines (8GByte, or even 16GByte RAM) for a customer that

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread mickey
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:53:50AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:44:48AM +, mickey wrote: PAE is slow and has hairy paws. I am glad that we have real amd64 machines now so we don't need it anymore. besides that what do you think amd64

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Tonnerre LOMBARD
Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:22AM +, mickey wrote: or what you think loading 36bit physaddr is slower than loading 48bits? I think that loading 48-bits in one step is faster than loading 36-bit in two. It is also a matter of experience that amd64 memory access is way faster than

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread nicodache
You don't get the problem, at least if you run a decent operating system, 'cause I know some people having problem using more than 4 Gig of ram, even with AMD64 or EM64T hardware, and (hum) Vista. Just to say the arch does not make everything, a good software is also needed. plus, X86_64 gets rid

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Tonnerre LOMBARD
Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:15:27AM +, mickey wrote: I think that loading 48-bits in one step is faster than loading 36-bit in two. It is also a matter of experience that amd64 memory access is way faster than i386 with PAE. why do you think that tlb loader cannot load 64bits in

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread mickey
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:13:55PM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:22AM +, mickey wrote: or what you think loading 36bit physaddr is slower than loading 48bits? I think that loading 48-bits in one step is faster than loading 36-bit in two. It is

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
On Monday 08 October 2007 12:02:22 mickey wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:53:50AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote: Salut, On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:44:48AM +, mickey wrote: PAE is slow and has hairy paws. I am glad that we have real amd64 machines now so we don't need it

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet
OK guys, Instead of fighting about using, or not using it, or i386 being obsolete, PAE not being good, or slow, etc. I for one would be very happy if we can support more then 4GB of memory on it and I would be more then happy to test it as I now have machine that actually have more then 4GB

TWiki/RCS prob: Date XYZ preceeds XYZ

2007-10-08 Thread Craig Skinner
Any Twiki admins having this problem?: When editing a page RCS errors are shown in the browser, but the page is updated fine without any changelog. Browser displays this: Attention Topic save error During save of file TWiki.WebHome an error was found by the version control system. Please

Re: Encrypting home partition

2007-10-08 Thread Nick Guenther
On 10/8/07, Alexey Vatchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-10-06, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #note: the image file should be available somewhere that isn't /home, obviously... you may be able to have a /home with it on there and then mount over that and it might keep

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread Craig Skinner
Theo de Raadt wrote: And there's a few easter eggs hidden in the song as well. Gifts from the water chicken no doubt. As usual, OpenBSD marches to the sound of its own drum :-)) Nice one.

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread ropers
On 08/10/2007, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: And there's a few easter eggs hidden in the song as well. Okay, I can't bear it any longer. I thought that maybe binary 11 and 1010101 stood for decimal 33 and 85, and that made me think of ASCII ! and U. But I

OpenBSD 4.2-current | ASUS P5VD2-X and E2140 problems

2007-10-08 Thread sebastian . rother
Hi guys, I ask at misc because I#m unsure if these problems are known. During reading the CHangelog I noticed the ALC883 Chip was added to Azalia. Well this Chip is at this Motherboard but I can't get it working. The BIOS supports to either set it into the HDA Mode or into the AC97 mode. neither

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread Tom Van Looy
I think it should have been 101 instead of 11. But if it's not than it's a good easter egg :-p (and I don't get it). ropers wrote: On 08/10/2007, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: And there's a few easter eggs hidden in the song as well. Okay, I can't

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread Gordon Grieder
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 11:55:11AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: [snip] And there's a few easter eggs hidden in the song as well. It also explains the inside sleeve image... Someone is giving it a go: http://slashdot.org/~TheRaven64/journal/184027 Gord

Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong

2007-10-08 Thread Florin Andrei
Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2007/10/04 17:48, Florin Andrei wrote: All firewall rules are written as stateless as possible - I don't need stateful filtering, the setup is very simple (allow HTTP inbound, allow a few ICMP types, and that's it). congestion116169

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread Todd Alan Smith
On 10/8/07, ropers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 08/10/2007, Craig Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: And there's a few easter eggs hidden in the song as well. Okay, I can't bear it any longer. I thought that maybe binary 11 and 1010101 stood for decimal 33 and 85,

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread ropers
And of course, 1001001 011 1010101 lacks the sexual innuendo, but it's a super nice thing to tell your one and only. :) --ropers

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread ropers
Theo de Raadt wrote: And there's a few easter eggs hidden in the song as well. On Oct 8, 2007, at 11:43 AM, ropers wrote: Okay, I can't bear it any longer. I thought that maybe binary 11 and 1010101 stood for decimal 33 and 85, and that made me think of ASCII ! and U. But I just

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread ropers
On 08/10/2007, Tom Van Looy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it should have been 101 instead of 11. Gord wrote: Someone is giving it a go: http://slashdot.org/~TheRaven64/journal/184027 That's real interesting, guys. TheRaven64 writes that (0)11 1010101 is (caesar-)ciphertext for

Re: How can I install 4 OS'es on one disk?

2007-10-08 Thread Marten Vijn
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 02:26 -0400, steve szmidt wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007 14:08, Nick Guenther wrote: On 10/7/07, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new laptop that I would like to set up to have 4 different OS's Got that working. I would suggest to start with most complex one

Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong

2007-10-08 Thread Florin Andrei
Florin Andrei wrote: I expected OpenBSD 4.1 to do better. But the thing is, even without the UDP flood, the OpenBSD firewall is very slow. I am downloading a huge file through it, via HTTP, and all I get is 4 Mbyte / sec. With Linux I get 112 Mbyte / sec. Something's wrong. Or I'm doing

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread Sean Darby
Perhaps: Regarding ...these are ! and U... As in not equal to proprietary (UNIX=$? unix=free?) Or in other words, free (I'm a newbie in the Unix-world so my apologies if I'm confusing free vs $ with UNIX vs unix/unix-like.) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type APPLICATION/DEFANGED

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Tom Cosgrove
Christoph Egger 8-Oct-07 12:54 in legacy mode, there is i386 that support 4KB and 4MB page-sizes and use 2-level pagetables. in legacy mode, there is i386 PAE that support 4KB and 2MB page-sizes and use 3-level pagetables. in long mode, there is amd64 that support 4KB, 2MB and 1GB

Re: Encrypting home partition

2007-10-08 Thread Felix Kronlage
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 12:23:42PM +0300, Timo Myyrd wrote: Which would be a better method, the separate image or encrypt whole partition and how to encrypt whole partition on OpenBSD? in -current its possible to encrypt partitions through the use of svnds with vnconfig: (example) #

Re: Get developers some big machines to support more RAM

2007-10-08 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Timo Schoeler wrote: AMD64 or EM64T machine with 8GB+ of RAM (or $1700 to buy one) needed in Edmonton. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Having the hardware will help some. I've got access to some larger hardware here at the university, and have sent out the large mem diff for amd64 machines.

making a release with 4.1 Sept 24 snapshot

2007-10-08 Thread Juan Miscaro
I am running the Sept 24 snapshot. I've never tried to make a release with a snapshot before and so I wonder whether it's possible. I updated my sources with cvsup (tag=OPENBSD_42) and keep getting a crash: install: addftinfo/addftinfo.cat1: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in

Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong

2007-10-08 Thread knitti
On 10/8/07, Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still can't match the performance I get from Linux. Any suggestion is appreciated. there were in the past postings on this list about problems with quad-port em NICs. I am absolutely not in a position to tell whether they are relevant for

spdmem: what does PC25100 mean?

2007-10-08 Thread Alexey Suslikov
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x52 DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC25100CL5 CL5 is CAS latency I think, but what does PC25100 mean here? :) Thanks.

Re: spdmem: what does PC25100 mean?

2007-10-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Alexey Suslikov wrote: CL5 is CAS latency I think, but what does PC25100 mean here? :) PC2-5100

Re: spdmem: what does PC25100 mean?

2007-10-08 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 12:26:28AM +0300, Alexey Suslikov wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x52 DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC25100CL5 CL5 is CAS latency I think, but what does PC25100 mean here? :) Thanks. It seems the code was incorrectly using PC2 as a prefix in the DDR2

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread RW
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:04:15 +0200, ropers wrote: On 08/10/2007, Tom Van Looy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it should have been 101 instead of 11. Gord wrote: Someone is giving it a go: http://slashdot.org/~TheRaven64/journal/184027 That's real interesting, guys. TheRaven64 writes

Re: Speeding up OBSD bootup

2007-10-08 Thread Ted Unangst
On 10/6/07, Karel Kulhavy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to specify the kernel that the hardware for which there are drivers probing for but I don't have in my PC is absent? Since OBSD has no suspend to disk/RAM, the bootup speed is critical when working with a laptop in public

Re: 4.2 song

2007-10-08 Thread Jake Conk
Nothing gets any nerdier than this, O - M - G. *thinks of revenge of the nerds* On 10/6/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just back from my (hiking) trip, I am happy to announce the 4.2 song has been added to the lyrics page at http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html Yes, it is

[Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Tony Bruguier
Hi all, I am an OpenBSD newbie (although I have used Linux before), so please bear with me. I successfully installed OpenBSD on a machine that has a fixed IP. I would like to install an HTTP proxy. The goal is to be able to allow a friend who has to go to China to surf the web freely. Do you

Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong

2007-10-08 Thread Florin Andrei
knitti wrote: there were in the past postings on this list about problems with quad-port em NICs. I am absolutely not in a position to tell whether they are relevant for this situation. If I remember correctly, there was a problem with TCP checksum offloading, and a suggested fix in one

Re: [Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Lars Noodén
Tony Bruguier wrote: ... I would like to install an HTTP proxy. ... Squid is recommended. Read the directions carefully and you will have to make one or two changes to the configuration. Have squid listen localhost and then tunnel to get to it. ... In the long term, I would like to

Re: [Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Calomel
Tony, I agree with lars, squid is an excellent choice to proxy http and https. Here are some instructions and a working example if you need them. Squid Proxy (Secure, Paranoid and Non-caching) http://calomel.org/squid.html -- Calomel @ http://calomel.org On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at

Re: firewall is very slow, something's wrong

2007-10-08 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 10/8/07, Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The UDP flood still freezes the system solid (but I discovered that the system clock continues to work more or less fine, it's just the text console and the firewall that are not responsive). I still can't match the performance I get

[newbie] ssh and sftp timing out

2007-10-08 Thread Tony Bruguier
Hi all, Thanks for all the help so far. I successfully installed OpenBSD today. I can access my machine via ssh and sftp provided I am on the same subnet. But as soon as I go home, then I can't anymore. Any pointers? Tony -- View this message in context:

Re: [newbie] ssh and sftp timing out

2007-10-08 Thread Tony Bruguier
Hello, Here's more information. I did a basic install and I had some trouble with the network (it recognized my wireless card but had trouble doing a DHCP on the ethernet card). I can access the machine via sftp, ssh, and ping it if I am on the same subnet. From home, I can neither ping, nor

Re: [newbie] ssh and sftp timing out

2007-10-08 Thread steve szmidt
On Monday 08 October 2007 21:57, Tony Bruguier wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the help so far. I successfully installed OpenBSD today. I can access my machine via ssh and sftp provided I am on the same subnet. But as soon as I go home, then I can't anymore. Any pointers? Tony If you

Re: [Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Jeremy Huiskamp
On 8-Oct-07, at 8:43 PM, Lars Noodin wrote: Tony Bruguier wrote: ... I would like to install an HTTP proxy. ... Squid is recommended. Read the directions carefully and you will have to make one or two changes to the configuration. Have squid listen localhost and then tunnel to get to it.

Re: [Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Siju George
On 10/9/07, Lars Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Bruguier wrote: ... I would like to install an HTTP proxy. ... Squid is recommended. Read the directions carefully and you will have to make one or two changes to the configuration. Have squid listen localhost and then tunnel to get

Re: [Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Rob Schmersel
Hi, I'm using TOR with good success here in China. Try torpark for windows, this will give your friend a preconfigured package of tor + firefox, ready to run (no need to setup a proxy on your site). REgards /Rob Tony Bruguier wrote: Hi all, I am an OpenBSD newbie (although I have used

Any Festival users out there?

2007-10-08 Thread Jeff Ross
If anyone is using the festival speech synthesis system that is in ports or any other speech synthesis system that can run on OpenBSD and you don't mind me picking your brain, please drop me a note. Thanks, Jeff Ross

Re: [Newbie] OpenBSD HTTP proxy

2007-10-08 Thread Tony Bruguier
Hello all, First, thanks for all the help so far. It seems that I have downloaded and installed the 4.2 version even though it is not supposed to be available yet. Here's the link: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/cd42.iso I tried to install the squid for the 4.1 version but it

Re: How can I install 4 OS'es on one disk?

2007-10-08 Thread Siju George
On 10/7/07, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a new laptop that I would like to set up to have 4 different OS's on. The OS's I would like to install are: OpenBSD FreeBSD Linux Windows (XP r Vista) Is it possible to do this on the one disk. I do have enough space, my concern is about

Re: Web configure Firewall

2007-10-08 Thread Siju George
On 10/6/07, Piotrek Kapczuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/10/6, Cyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for a ready to install roll package for configureing and administering a OpenBSD firewall from the web. something along the lines of pfSense, but with OpenBSD base. Thanks,