Hi,
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead
Sendmail.
Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ?
Thank's.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Hi,
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead
Sendmail.
Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:04:01 +0200, Christer Solskogen
christer.solsko...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Hi,
I want to install a mailserver.
What is
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:43:09 +0200
Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
I've decided to write Vim Programming FAQ. I'm not an expert
[snip]
I can help with the correcting part and, since I also use vim, with some tips.
Please note that I only have two days per week available for this, so if
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:07 AM, Tomas Vavrys vav...@cleancode.cz wrote:
Thank you for your point. Unfortunately there is at least 7 people who
would like to see some tutorial. I am not a developer so I didn't know
about the style(9). Anyways, it's not about style(9). It's about people,
being
I am already writing and I don't want to hurry this thing up. It won't
be ready this week. Rather in two weeks. After that I will send it to
all of you who wants to help. Thank you for your patience.
2010/8/13 Rares Aioanei debian.dev.l...@gmail.com:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 21:43:09 +0200
Tomas
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
He just gave it to you. sendmail.
Why do you think OpenBSD ships with (a custom and secure) sendmail by
default?
--
Later
Peter
On 13/08/2010, at 7:41 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
Easiest doesn't necessarily fit with most secure ... or everyone would
be using Windows and Macs?
You have to understand what you are setting
* Peter Miller feu...@gmail.com [2010-08-13 10:46]:
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
He just gave it to you. sendmail.
I would never use sendmail for anything halfway serious.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
Hi Stuart,
thanks for the idea.
On Thu, 12.08.2010 at 12:09:02 +, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org
wrote:
Guessing based on very little information, but they probably have
different BIOSes.
Unfortunately, as I just hear, the manufacturer dropped support for
these machines. My
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:55:13 +0400
open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
It depends - as mentioned before, you need to specify the
environment, mail volume etc.
My opinion:
*) Since 4.6 OpenBSD ships with its own
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
* Peter Miller feu...@gmail.com [2010-08-13 10:46]:
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
He just gave it to you. sendmail.
I would never use sendmail for
Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com writes:
what about qmail? ;-)
beavis
huh, hurr, he said qmail
/beavis
--
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious
You can try smtpd(8) which is in base. Some people reported that they
are using it in production already. At least configuration is much
more easier then in sendmail(8)
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Hi,
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and
On 08/13/2010 10:49 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:
But as Christer has said, if it's in the OpenBSD base, that should
mean something.
Just because it's in base doesn't mean that it's the best choice.
After all, it *could* just mean that noone has had the time and/or
energy to replace it with
Yeah, /me for example... handles some 100,000 connects per day, with
spam ratio about 3/1...4/1. i.e. some 25,000 deliveries per day.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:35:44 +0200
Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
You can try smtpd(8) which is in base. Some people reported that they
are using it
On 8/13/10 7:35 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
You can try smtpd(8) which is in base. Some people reported that they
are using it in production already. At least configuration is much
more easier then in sendmail(8)
I have been for almost 18 months now. I use it as spam filter and front
end for
On 8/13/10 8:27 AM, Fredrik Henbjork wrote:
On 08/13/2010 10:49 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:
But as Christer has said, if it's in the OpenBSD base, that should
mean something.
Just because it's in base doesn't mean that it's the best choice.
After all, it *could* just mean that noone has had
* Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net [2010-08-13 15:04]:
Hmmm. Sendmail was in base and is still in the system, but was
replace as the default MTA by smtpd a few release ago.
bullshit.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP -
On 8/13/10 9:08 AM, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Daniel Ouelletdan...@presscom.net [2010-08-13 15:04]:
Hmmm. Sendmail was in base and is still in the system, but was
replace as the default MTA by smtpd a few release ago.
bullshit.
You are right as out of the box MTA in standard operation. I
On 08/13/2010 03:00 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
Hmmm. Sendmail was in base and is still in the system, but was replace
as the default MTA by smtpd a few release ago. So, I sure don't thin you
will see smtpd being replace again by something else in base. It was
already done. Check the archive.
It
On 08/13/2010 12:27 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:
* Peter Millerfeu...@gmail.com [2010-08-13 10:46]:
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
He just gave it to you. sendmail.
I would never use sendmail for anything halfway serious.
What are
But I also like my network servers
to have been field proven in the nasty wilderness by others
for some time before starting to use them myself in production,
Men, that's rather very selfish! So, you want everyone one else to do
the work, but not you!? You don't want to participate in testing
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Hi,
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead
Sendmail.
Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ?
Thank's.
Salut Mon Bme .Si aujourd\'hui mon message de
correspondance vous est adressi c\'est parce que
j\'ai voulu avoir plus de relation pour les
ichanges d\'idie, de propos, pour discuter,
dialoguer et que sais je encore surtout si vous
jtes de Afrique, un continent que jaime
beaucoup.On m\'appelle
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
On 08/12/10 13:26, Mark Bucciarelli wrote:
boot disable acpi
What's this about?
Tilting at windmills.
I take it you are PXE booting because you don't have the lower thingie
which has the floppy and CD
Henning Brauer wrote:
* Peter Millerfeu...@gmail.com [2010-08-13 10:46]:
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
He just gave it to you. sendmail.
I would never use sendmail for anything halfway serious.
++
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
Your mom.
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:23:30 -0500, j...@fixedpointgroup.com
j...@fixedpointgroup.com wrote:
sendmail is fine if you have a few users at a relatively quiet domain,
all of whom you want to have system accounts on the mailserver. smtpd
does similarly but has unpredictable behavior at best. i
My HP 6939p behaves a bit strange,
I asked for donation HP machines a few times, for myself and a few
other ACPI developers. Only one person replied and it is going to
take a few weeks to get the machine to me.
So we can't help you. Good luck fixing your own bug, all of you HP
owners.
What do people think of monit.
* Fredrik Henbjork fredrik.henbjork.maill...@gmail.com [2010-08-13 15:57]:
What are your views on qmail versus Postfix?
irrelevant here anyway.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
On 13 August 2010 16:30, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:23:30 -0500, j...@fixedpointgroup.com
j...@fixedpointgroup.com wrote:
sendmail is fine if you have a few users at a relatively quiet domain,
all of whom you want to have system accounts on the mailserver. smtpd
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:27:56 +0200
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
* Peter Miller feu...@gmail.com [2010-08-13 10:46]:
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And have your advice.
He just gave it to you. sendmail.
I would never use
I just realized that if I telnet to our web servers on port 80 and press
enter a few times that I get a reply back from relayd that I didn't
expect addressOpenBSD relayd at 127.0.0.1 port 8080/address This
error is correct as we use a PF rdr rule to redirect traffic on our
firewall to
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 03:41:08PM +0100, Keith wrote:
I just realized that if I telnet to our web servers on port 80 and
press enter a few times that I get a reply back from relayd that I
didn't expect addressOpenBSD relayd at 127.0.0.1 port
8080/address This error is correct as we use a PF
On 8/13/2010 2:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ?
I've used Courier-MTA on OpenBSD for a few years. I think it's a good
choice if you want an all-in-one package but you don't think your mail
server should come with an OS
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:55:13AM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
I want to install a mailserver.
What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead
Sendmail.
Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, j...@fixedpointgroup.com wrote:
sendmail is fine if you have a few users at a relatively quiet domain,
all of whom you want to have system accounts on the mailserver.
You imply that sendmail is _only_ fine for such limited uses, which is
certainly not true in my experience;
I donated when Marco asked for cash to hp laptops , not much, but
something...
Anyway, I can live with the problem, since suspend/resume works well :)
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 16:35, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote:
My HP 6939p behaves a bit strange,
I asked for donation HP
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:14:52 -0400
Qmail is crap and is only used by people who don't know any better.
---Rsk
Actually qmail is only used by people who do know better because
otherwise people like yahoo wouldn't go to such lengths to install it
(caused by it's old licensing). There is a
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:58:46 +0200
Bret S. Lambert blamb...@openbsd.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 03:41:08PM +0100, Keith wrote:
I just realized that if I telnet to our web servers on port 80 and
press enter a few times that I get a reply back from relayd that I
didn't expect
On 8/13/2010 at 9:04 AM Christer Solskogen wrote:
|On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I want to install a mailserver.
| What is the easiest and the most secure solution ?
| OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix
instead
| Sendmail.
|
On 8/13/2010 at 3:43 AM Peter Miller wrote:
| I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to
use.
| And have your advice.
|
|He just gave it to you. sendmail.
=
My opinion, and my opinion only - if you do notd to change any of the
configuration settings from the
- Original Message
From: open...@e-solutions.re open...@e-solutions.re
To: misc@openbsd.org
Cc: Christer Solskogen christer.solsko...@gmail.com
Sent: Fri, August 13, 2010 12:41:36 AM
Subject: Re: MTA choice
I only want to know what is better (easiest way, most secure) to use.
And
On 08/13/2010 04:02 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
But I also like my network servers
to have been field proven in the nasty wilderness by others
for some time before starting to use them myself in production,
Men, that's rather very selfish! So, you want everyone one else to do
the work, but not
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Dave Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010,j...@fixedpointgroup.com wrote:
sendmail is fine if you have a few users at a relatively quiet domain,
all of whom you want to have system accounts on the mailserver.
You imply that sendmail is _only_ fine for such limited uses, which is
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:00 PM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
i have heard good things about qmail but never used it myself.
Thank's for your answer.
http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/
name sounds similar. date.
--Siju
Real hackers do their email with awk and nc.
Just to keep the mortals in the loop,
This date to day, on Tuesday the 13th of August 2002, Theo had another fit
and kicked out all the OpenBSD developers for a couple of days or so:
Subject: Re: dealing with security issues when Theo is away
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:25:08 -0600
From: Theo
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
Dave Anderson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010,j...@fixedpointgroup.com wrote:
sendmail is fine if you have a few users at a relatively quiet domain,
all of whom you want to have system accounts on the mailserver.
You imply that sendmail is _only_
This appears to be none of my business, not sure how it got to misc, besides
someone's deep enough interest to create a special gmail (in eu) account.
Now I don't develop software, nor know anything, but this reads like the
tree got locked because lots of testing was failing to occur, which
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, disgrun tled-developers wrote:
This date to day, on Tuesday the 13th of August 2002, Theo had another fit
and kicked out all the OpenBSD developers for a couple of days or so:
All I can say is: Thank you Theo for giving a damn and not running
some kind of peewee
2010/8/13 Jacob Yocom-Piatt j...@fixedpointgroup.com:
sendmail is a piece of software that is historically notorious for security
problems
IMHO this opinion is based on information from the last century; how
many security problems were there in the last decade?
Best
Martin
* patric conant mirage.comput...@gmail.com [100813 14:27]:
This appears to be none of my business, not sure how it got to misc, besides
someone's deep enough interest to create a special gmail (in eu) account.
One, or more, of the developers have chosen to take a selection of the
projects
I had to think a while before daring to reply to this as I'm obviously
out of my depth and don't know the background or real issues or if
what I have to say is remotely relevent, I apologise if I'm out of
order.
It seems that OpenBSD has set it's goals and is the best at it. It
doesn't really
Qmail is crap and is only used by people who don't know any better.
---Rsk
DJB wrote qmail. He codes circles around most clowns and talks a lot of smack
(similar to our noble leader) and he can back it up too. Take the qmail
challenge. I don't care for MTA software at all, but qmail is pure
Well he believes that hard disks never lie. I guess he has a CS degree.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:09:41PM +, Internet Retard wrote:
Qmail is crap and is only used by people who don't know any better.
---Rsk
DJB wrote qmail. He codes circles around most clowns and talks a lot of
From: mirage.comput...@gmail.com
This appears to be none of my business, not sure how it got to misc,
besides
someone's deep enough interest to create a special gmail (in eu) account.
Now I don't develop software, nor know anything, but this reads like the
tree got locked because lots of
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:20:15 -0500
From: sl...@peereboom.us
To: webret...@live.com
CC: r...@gsp.org; misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: MTA choice
Well he believes that hard disks never lie. I guess he has a CS degree.
Go away clown. And take your practical engineering degree with you.
Hi,
I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) :
www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)
All web pages are stored in /var/www/domains/
So in /var/www/domains we have 3 folders :
www.first.xx
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:04:56AM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Hi,
I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) :
www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)
All web pages are
Qmail is best-known among everyone equipped with sufficient experience
as the cause of numerous operational issues and a fair amount of abuse
thanks to a number of very poor design and implementation decisions.
Many of these have been discussed over the year in exhaustive detail
on the appropriate
i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
configured).
My problem, user can see content of others.
For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the content of
firstxx folder.
How can i restrict that ?
Well, you could setup no login in the
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 12:04:56AM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Hi,
I installed OpenBSD 4.7 for web hosting (test).
So i have 3 websites for 3 users (1 site per user) :
www.first.xx (user : firstxx)
www.2nd.xx (user : 2ndxx)
www.third.xx (user : thirdxx)
All web pages are
Steve Shockley wrote:
On 8/13/2010 2:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ?
I've used Courier-MTA on OpenBSD for a few years. I think it's a good
choice if you want an all-in-one package but you don't think your mail
server should
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
i used ftpd (-4Dln) for users to upload their website(with /etc/ftpchroot
configured).
My problem, user can see content of others.
For example, 2ndxx can update his folder but he can see also the
content of
firstxx folder.
How can i restrict that ?
Well, you could setup
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:46:24 +0200
disgrun tled-developers disgruntled.develop...@googlemail.com wrote:
Just to keep the mortals in the loop,
This date to day, on Tuesday the 13th of August 2002, Theo had another fit
and kicked out all the OpenBSD developers for a couple of days or so:
If you pass multiple interfaces to a binat-to rule, internally pfctl
generates n^2/2 rules:
# echo pass on {a, b, c, d, e, f, g } binat-to 1.2.3.4 | pfctl -a test -f-
# pfctl -a test -sr
pass out on a inet all flags S/SA keep state nat-to 1.2.3.4 static-port
pass in on a inet from any to 1.2.3.4
that is the intended and correct behaviour.
binat is gone. pfctl has a kludge. re-implementing binat as it was
before - over my dead body.
--
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated
On 8/13/2010 at 11:26 PM Benny LC6fgren wrote:
|Steve Shockley wrote:
| On 8/13/2010 2:55 AM, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
| Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ?
|
| I've used Courier-MTA on OpenBSD for a few years. I think it's a
good
| choice if you want an all-in-one
I have been struggling to figure out how to make ppp initiate
negotiation unsuccessfully. Can someone help me with a simple ppp.conf
that does a 'set device !/path/to/some/prog' that will initiate
negotiation? I have a prog that waits for input from stdin and logs
any input into a /tmp/logfile,
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