Re: vmd eating lots of memory

2019-07-21 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:46:06AM +0200, Paul de Weerd wrote: | on both VMs and host. If the problem was there too, it didn't affect | anything else on the system until I upgraded. Forgot to make explicit: the other vm remains at a constant memory footprint; also while running /etc/daily Paul

Re: OpenBSD's FBI file

2019-07-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> There are a lot of redactions here, but it looks like the focus here > might have been an exploit that lead also to the following OpenSSH > vuln: > https://web.archive.org/web/20080622172542/www.iss.net/threats/advise123.html That is a ridiculous claim. It is unrelated. I believe the record

Re: Dig on openbsd too old ?

2019-07-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
>From owner-misc+M179500=deraadt=cvs.openbsd@openbsd.org Sat Jul 20 >06:29:27 2019 >Delivered-To: dera...@cvs.openbsd.org >X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ >To: misc@openbsd.org >From: Stuart Henderson >Subject: Re: Dig on openbsd too old ? >Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 12:29:04 - (UTC)

Re: vmd eating lots of memory

2019-07-21 Thread Paul de Weerd
Hi Mike, On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 10:23:02AM -0700, Mike Larkin wrote: | Did this just start happening? Nothing relevant has changed in vmd(8) recently | that would cause this, from what I remember. Prior to this kernel version, I was running OpenBSD 6.5 (GENERIC.MP) #847: Tue Apr 9 09:12:46

OpenBSD's FBI file

2019-07-21 Thread Frank Beuth
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/foia-fbi-openbsd-70084/ Earlier this year I FOIAed the FBI for details on allegations of backdoor installed in the IPSEC stack in 2010, originally discussed by OpenBSD devs (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech=129236621626462 …) Today, I

OpenBSD 6.5 is much less responsive (high "spin" state)

2019-07-21 Thread Federico Giannici
Recently I upgraded an OpenBSD amd64 server from 6.3 to 6.5 (rapidly passing through 6.4). This a monitoring server with a lot of processes that send "ping" (both ICMP and UDP) packets to a great number of hosts. So there is a great number of processes but they spend most of their time waiting

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Strahil Nikolov
On July 21, 2019 6:05:28 AM GMT+03:00, bkfuth wrote: > > >I have used OpenBSD, for years, in my computer security classes. I find >it best suited for these classes. The governance has never been an >issue. If you know what you are doing the OpenBSD community is a good >one.Stephen KolarsSent

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Ibsen S Ripsbusker
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, at 16:41, Theo de Raadt wrote: > I'd go with the approach of avoiding politics entirely and not even > describing the approach we use. I find this approach to be consistent with OpenBSD's virtuous ignorance of fads. > Be as politics-free as possible; solutions should be

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
In OpenBSD fashion. --- email.orig Sun Jul 21 19:12:04 2019 +++ email.new Sun Jul 21 19:12:38 2019 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ Perhaps the reason it has worked so long is because we don't have a sentence like this, which some may consider contentious, and use as reason to pick yet another infamous

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Австин Ким
> On July 21, 2019 6:05:28 AM GMT+03:00, bkfuth <[…]> wrote: > > I have used OpenBSD, for years, in my computer security classes. I find > > it best suited for these classes. The governance has never been an > > issue. If you know what you are doing the OpenBSD community is a good > > one. > >

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
I'd go with the approach of avoiding politics entirely and not even describing the approach we use. People who care about anything besides our results have make an incorrect assessment of which kind of farm animal they are. Perhaps the reason it has worked so long is because we don't have a

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread bkfuth
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note® 4, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Австин Ким Date: 7/21/19 10:09 (GMT-06:00) To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OpenBSD Project > On July 21, 2019 6:05:28 AM GMT+03:00, bkfuth <[…]> wrote:> > I have used > OpenBSD,

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, a user just asked a question on misc@ that could have been answered by the following addition to the web site. I'm not convinced that going into more detail makes sense, precisely because we do not want bylaws. OK? Ingo Index: goals.html

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 12:40 PM Theo de Raadt wrote: > Perhaps the reason it has worked so long is because we don't have a > sentence like this, which some may consider contentious, and use as > reason to pick yet another infamous fight where they believe they know > better than a quarter

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Frank Beuth
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 10:37:40AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: I'm mentioning this to highlight the false pattern of believing "democracy is a required component" in a world where people forget the most dominant models in all industries are a mix of fascism, monarchies, or well ... plutocracy.

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Edgar Pettijohn
> To everyone who took the time to respond, your responses were outstanding; if > only a short and sweet additional page could be added to the main OpenBSD > Project WWW site (e.g., under ???Project Team??? or ???Developers") that just > succinctly summarizes exactly what you all said. For

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
>Hi Ibsen, > >Ibsen S Ripsbusker wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 05:51:21PM +: > >> benevolent dictatorship > >I'm aware you did not call OpenBSD a "benevolent dictatorship", >and i totally see how the term can be used both to shut down >or to incite controversy. > >Yet, i heard the term used

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Ibsen, Ibsen S Ripsbusker wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 05:51:21PM +: > benevolent dictatorship I'm aware you did not call OpenBSD a "benevolent dictatorship", and i totally see how the term can be used both to shut down or to incite controversy. Yet, i heard the term used several times

Re: OpenBSD Project

2019-07-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 02:00:20PM -0600: > Nice rant. Now get back to work. :) As you wish, Your Grace. =;c) Ingo Log Message: --- Slowly start implementing tagging support for man(7) pages, even though it is obvious that this can never become as

Re: help with understanding __BSD_VISIBLE

2019-07-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
>Philip Guenther writes: > >> There are four options here: >> 1) change the software to not use the name 'bcrypt' for a non-static >> function. OpenBSD has only been using it for 15 years... > >Agree, but for now I'm trying to keep changes to a minimum as I work out >larger issues. This is in an