Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-20 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 09:50:53AM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: Can you recommend an alternative automounter for network mounts? I guess fstab + ifstated(8) would do the job even better then amd. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Personally, I'm an long time fvwm user. My partner wouldn't know where to start nor care to learn how to use that. Which is why I need to install a DE. Years ago I did use KDE3 and liked it but changed because I did not like KDE4. Don't forget especially with xfce you can take just parts of

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-09-18, john slee indig...@oldcorollas.org wrote: On 17 September 2013 20:37, Jes jjje...@gmail.com wrote: but if you want you can mount them in /etc/fstab. Simply read the documentation about permissions and syntax. It's very easy. For NFS the best way is mount them in /etc/fstab

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-18 Thread Greg Thomas
Interesting. I just used Xfce for a bit on a new Ubuntu box from a vendor here today, I didn't check the version. It sure has come a lng way from when I last used it around 1999. I may try it out on my home desktop, seems a lot more responsive than KDE and Gnome. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:15:50PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 03:18:28PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2013-09-16, Stefan Sperling s...@openbsd.org wrote: You can use hotplugd(8) to simulate an auto-mounter for known USB disks. hotplug-diskmount (in packages)

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread David Coppa
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2013-09-16, Stefan Sperling s...@openbsd.org wrote: You can use hotplugd(8) to simulate an auto-mounter for known USB disks. hotplug-diskmount (in packages) saves a bit of time writing a script for this. And

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Try E17: lightning fast, meek on requirements, user friendly. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 12:18 PM, James Griffin j...@kontrol.kode5.netwrote: I need to install a Dektop Environment for my partner. I thought about KDE or xfce, i've tried neither on OpenBSD before. Which of the 3 main main DE's

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread David Coppa
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote: Try E17: lightning fast, meek on requirements, user friendly. yes, it's nice. A bit buggy, but nice...

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread Jes
Regarding samba... there's no need to automount samba folders because you always can browse them via file browser (konqueror, thunar or nautilus), but if you want you can mount them in /etc/fstab. Simply read the documentation about permissions and syntax. It's very easy. For NFS the best way is

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-09-17, David Coppa dco...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2013-09-16, Stefan Sperling s...@openbsd.org wrote: You can use hotplugd(8) to simulate an auto-mounter for known USB disks. hotplug-diskmount (in packages)

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-17 Thread john slee
On 17 September 2013 20:37, Jes jjje...@gmail.com wrote: but if you want you can mount them in /etc/fstab. Simply read the documentation about permissions and syntax. It's very easy. For NFS the best way is mount them in /etc/fstab too. /Why/ is it the best way, though? Unlike

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Vijay Sankar
Quoting James Griffin j...@kontrol.kode5.net: I need to install a Dektop Environment for my partner. I thought about KDE or xfce, i've tried neither on OpenBSD before. Which of the 3 main main DE's (gnome, KDE, XFCE) do you feel work best on OpenBSD. I would need things like removable

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread thornton . richard
Definitely XFCE 4.10. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: James GriffinSent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:20 AMTo: misc@openbsd.orgSubject: Feedback about Desktop Environments I need to install a Dektop Environment for my partner. I thought about

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Eric Johnson
On Mon, 16 Sep 2013, James Griffin wrote: I need to install a Dektop Environment for my partner. I thought about KDE or xfce, i've tried neither on OpenBSD before. Which of the 3 main main DE's (gnome, KDE, XFCE) do you feel work best on OpenBSD. I would need things like removable

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:18:58AM +0100, James Griffin wrote: I need to install a Dektop Environment for my partner. I thought about KDE or xfce, i've tried neither on OpenBSD before. Which of the 3 main main DE's (gnome, KDE, XFCE) do you feel work best on OpenBSD. I would recommend

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Eric Johnson wrote: On Mon, 16 Sep 2013, James Griffin wrote: My favorite by far is WindowMaker, but it isn't the graphical environment you seem to want. Mine too, coupled with GNUstep. SOund should work (media player).. But we lack video and also mounting/unmonting is spotty. It should

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Francois Pussault
;) From: thornton.rich...@gmail.com Sent: Mon Sep 16 12:41:04 CEST 2013 To: James Griffin j...@kontrol.kode5.net, misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments Definitely XFCE 4.10. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: James

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Richard Toohey
On 09/16/13 22:18, James Griffin wrote: I need to install a Dektop Environment for my partner. I thought about KDE or xfce, i've tried neither on OpenBSD before. Which of the 3 main main DE's (gnome, KDE, XFCE) do you feel work best on OpenBSD. I'm currently on XFCE and it works for me. Used

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Luca Ferrari
:04 CEST 2013 To: James Griffin j...@kontrol.kode5.net, misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments Definitely XFCE 4.10. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE network. From: James GriffinSent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:20 AMTo: misc

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread James Griffin
* Luca Ferrari fluca1...@infinito.it [2013-09-16 14:05:12 +0200]: My favourite desktop is KDE, but I have to admit it has some concepts that can scary a new user, like the management of desktop icons and folders. Therefore KDE 3 is better than 4 for this kind of users, but I would not suggest

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:39:58PM +1200, Richard Toohey wrote: Was really enjoying Gnome 3 but it got a bit sluggish on the hardware I was using at the time, so headed for something more light-weight. As a lot of you probably know, there's been a big jump in gfx in current, both for Intel and

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Jes
Hi all: I use during so long time KDE3. Nowdays I prefer xfce4. Gnome3 is a bit ugly for me. I prefer WMs that integrate the file browser and other tools. Because of this I don't use WindowMaker or FVWM or Enlightenment If I'd only had to code I'll use vim and some minimalistic wm. In my

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Hi all: I use during so long time KDE3. Nowdays I prefer xfce4. Gnome3 is a bit ugly for me. I prefer WMs that integrate the file browser and other tools. Because of this I don't use WindowMaker or FVWM or Enlightenment If I'd only had to code I'll use vim and some minimalistic wm. In

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread James Griffin
* Jes jjje...@gmail.com [2013-09-16 14:43:48 +0200]: Hi all: I use during so long time KDE3. Nowdays I prefer xfce4. Gnome3 is a bit ugly for me. I prefer WMs that integrate the file browser and other tools. Because of this I don't use WindowMaker or FVWM or Enlightenment If I'd only

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2013-09-16, Stefan Sperling s...@openbsd.org wrote: You can use hotplugd(8) to simulate an auto-mounter for known USB disks. hotplug-diskmount (in packages) saves a bit of time writing a script for this. Or there's amd(8) of course...

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 03:18:28PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2013-09-16, Stefan Sperling s...@openbsd.org wrote: You can use hotplugd(8) to simulate an auto-mounter for known USB disks. hotplug-diskmount (in packages) saves a bit of time writing a script for this. Or there's amd(8)

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Jes
On 16/09/13 15:25, James Griffin wrote: * Jes jjje...@gmail.com [2013-09-16 14:43:48 +0200]: Hi all: I use during so long time KDE3. Nowdays I prefer xfce4. Gnome3 is a bit ugly for me. I prefer WMs that integrate the file browser and other tools. Because of this I don't use WindowMaker or

Re: Feedback about Desktop Environments

2013-09-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:49:37PM +0200, Jes wrote: On 16/09/13 15:25, James Griffin wrote: * Jes jjje...@gmail.com [2013-09-16 14:43:48 +0200]: Hi all: I use during so long time KDE3. Nowdays I prefer xfce4. Gnome3 is a bit ugly for me. I prefer WMs that integrate the file browser and