On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:23:12AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:14:05AM +, mickey wrote:
myself in need to build some big, phat machines (8GByte, or even
16GByte RAM) for a customer that run OpenBSD *and* having seen (again) a
discussion on 'how
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:44:48AM +, mickey wrote:
PAE is slow and has hairy paws. I am glad that we have real amd64
machines
now so we don't need it anymore.
besides that what do you think amd64 runs? (:
it uses the same pae as i386. and it is not any faster.
learn what are
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:43:25AM +, mickey wrote:
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:23:12AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:14:05AM +, mickey wrote:
myself in need to build some big, phat machines (8GByte, or even
16GByte RAM) for a customer that
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:53:50AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:44:48AM +, mickey wrote:
PAE is slow and has hairy paws. I am glad that we have real amd64
machines
now so we don't need it anymore.
besides that what do you think amd64
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:22AM +, mickey wrote:
or what you think loading 36bit physaddr is slower than loading 48bits?
I think that loading 48-bits in one step is faster than loading 36-bit
in two. It is also a matter of experience that amd64 memory access is
way faster than
You don't get the problem, at least if you run a decent operating
system, 'cause I know some people having problem using more than 4 Gig
of ram, even with AMD64 or EM64T hardware, and (hum) Vista.
Just to say the arch does not make everything, a good software is also needed.
plus, X86_64 gets rid
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:15:27AM +, mickey wrote:
I think that loading 48-bits in one step is faster than loading 36-bit
in two. It is also a matter of experience that amd64 memory access is
way faster than i386 with PAE.
why do you think that tlb loader cannot load 64bits in
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 12:13:55PM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:22AM +, mickey wrote:
or what you think loading 36bit physaddr is slower than loading 48bits?
I think that loading 48-bits in one step is faster than loading 36-bit
in two. It is
On Monday 08 October 2007 12:02:22 mickey wrote:
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:53:50AM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
Salut,
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:44:48AM +, mickey wrote:
PAE is slow and has hairy paws. I am glad that we have real amd64
machines now so we don't need it
OK guys,
Instead of fighting about using, or not using it, or i386 being
obsolete, PAE not being good, or slow, etc.
I for one would be very happy if we can support more then 4GB of memory
on it and I would be more then happy to test it as I now have machine
that actually have more then 4GB
Christoph Egger 8-Oct-07 12:54
in legacy mode, there is i386 that support 4KB and 4MB page-sizes and
use 2-level pagetables.
in legacy mode, there is i386 PAE that support 4KB and 2MB page-sizes
and use 3-level pagetables.
in long mode, there is amd64 that support 4KB, 2MB and 1GB
Timo Schoeler wrote:
AMD64 or EM64T machine with 8GB+ of RAM (or $1700 to buy one) needed in
Edmonton. Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having the hardware will help some. I've got access to some larger
hardware here at the university, and have sent out the large mem diff
for amd64 machines.
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