Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Copperhead's linux-hardened can be a suitable replacement for grsec in due time. However, AFAIK that is not the intent. Fot those unfamiliar with Copperhead, they did (and do) an awesome job on hardening Android. They have forked AOSP, hardened it. The fork is called CopperheadOS. This is also

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Thanks, Kevin. Exactly this. Even though I think OpenBSD is awesome, it isn't fit for every situation/use case. Thus, I hardly meant that it is viable for anything and everything. To give some examples: OpenBSD doesn't support ZFS (nor should it, lots of kernel changes required for that, some are

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > > > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage > > of security. > > I would use OpenBSD if you can but if you do

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of > security. I would use OpenBSD if you can but if you do decide on Linux and care about security there are only really a

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu 08 Feb 2018 6:21 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > Charlie Eddy wrote: > > > hello misc, > > > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 15:09:25 +0300 > > - You shouldn't assume we know Linux. So refering to a Linux > > specific command often does not help a lot. Try to explain what you > > want to achieve. > > I was just making a point. OpenBSD has a lot of downsides in some > areas so blindly calling it

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On 13:02 Fri 09 Feb, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 12:27:47PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > > On 23:12 Thu 08 Feb, Jeroen wrote: > > > I can talk hours and hours why OpenBSD is superior to Linux > > > > It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one > >

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 12:27:47PM +0300, Consus wrote: > On 23:12 Thu 08 Feb, Jeroen wrote: > > I can talk hours and hours why OpenBSD is superior to Linux > > It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one > command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux. I don't think

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 13:14:05 +0300 > # lsblk > NAMEMAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT > nvme0n1 259:00 238.5G 0 disk > ├─nvme0n1p1 259:10 256M 0 part /boot/efi > ├─nvme0n1p2 259:20 256M 0 part /boot > └─nvme0n1p3 259:30 238G 0 part >

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On 10:40 Fri 09 Feb, Philipp Buehler wrote: > Am 09.02.2018 10:27 schrieb Consus: > > It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one > > command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux. > > You're implying.. > > # lsblk > bash: lsblk: command not found > > And just that is

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Another perspective. Not to do with embedded systems, but the quality of OpenBSD documentation.   My job is as a technical editor. I write documentation for email encryption software based on a Debian platform (but mainly administered in the browser, to be fair). I know exactly how documentation

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Am 09.02.2018 10:27 schrieb Consus: It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux. You're implying.. # lsblk bash: lsblk: command not found And just that is already a reason, I do not like "Linux" very much. -- pb

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On 23:12 Thu 08 Feb, Jeroen wrote: > I can talk hours and hours why OpenBSD is superior to Linux It is possible to list all block devices (with type and size) with one command? You now, like lsblk(8) in Linux.

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On 02/08/18 19:28, mazocomp wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:41:20PM -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote: hello misc, Hi! I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. Good, go ahead, all doors are

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:41:20PM -0800, Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > Hi! > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list > some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. > Good, go ahead, all doors are open. > However, a programmer

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On 8 Feb 2018 23:23, "Steve Litt" wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 09:41:20PM +, Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing list > some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of security. > > However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Thanks Daniel. Definitely the correct answer. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Daniel Bolgheroni wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 09:41:20PM +, Charlie Eddy wrote: > > hello misc, > > > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this mailing > list > >

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this > mailing list some time ago (~few months). I want to take advantage of > security. > > However, a programmer who I know personally

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Hi Charlie, https://sivers.org/openbsd is another good site to view :) @Joren that is commitment the Tat :) Thanks Tom Smyth On 8 February 2018 at 22:12, Jeroen wrote: > Hi, > > OpenBSD has a clear and proactive stance when it comes to security, > while Arch does not. If

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 > Does the difference boil down to one's > definition of free software, and then compliance with that definition? There is a huge difference. Arch is at the whim of Linux which is far behind even the Windows kernel in mitigations (which is far behind OpenBSD)

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 13:41:20 -0800 Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD Where from? > > However, a programmer who I know personally and respect considers > OpenBSD to be old-school, in a negative sense. He recommends Arch > Linux

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

If your programmer friend has any source code patches he would like to submit then I am sure the project would love to have them. On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:58 PM Charlie Eddy wrote: > hello misc, > > I am considering a move to OpenBSD, since I subscribed to this

Re: considering a move to OpenBSD

Hi, OpenBSD has a clear and proactive stance when it comes to security, while Arch does not. If you want to stay atop of new developments, feel free to try -current. If you need a very stable environment, go with -stable. Don't expect to find that latter one in Arch, as it works with a rolling