Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
he kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs? openbsd-m 2015-11-23 Who teach the true message about the true free softwa openbsd-m 2015-11-19 Whats are the problems caused by licences that are no openbsd-m 2015-11-14 Why OpenBSD uses monolithic kernel? openbsd-t

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-28 Thread français
; dudu.meyer@ > profissional: > ddm.farmaciap@.gov Eduardo Meyer, I not has a Nero syndrom and is not just trying to light a fire, I interpreted badly, English is not my native language. Please forgive me This did not happen again. -- View this message in context: http

The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread français
t;. -- View this message in context: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/The-kernels-of-BSD-include-nonfree- firmware-blobs-tp283900.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Peter Hessler
this has been discussed ad-nauseam, please search the archives. (ps: do not respond to this, we are not interested in having this discussion again) On 2015 Nov 27 (Fri) at 08:33:00 -0700 (-0700), fran??ais wrote: :The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: : :"FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Michael McConville
Drivers run on the CPU, firmware runs on the peripheral device (e.g. the network card or hard drive). BSDs reject driver blobs because they run with the same privilege and in the same address space as the rest of the kernel. Because of this, they can meddle with or corrupt the kernel. Before

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 11/27/15 16:33, français wrote: The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree firmware blobs. The FSF should have access to people who

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread français
parlance, the term “blob” means something else: a nonfree driver? OpenBSD and perhaps other BSD distributions (called “projects” by BSD developers) have the policy of not including those? That is the right policy, as regards drivers? But when the developers say these distributions “contain no blobs”, it causes a misunderstanding? Is true that they are not talking about firmware blobs? -- View this message in context: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/The-kernels-of-BSD-include-nonfree- firmware-blobs-tp283900p283907.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 11/27/15 17:32, français wrote: I wanted ask the following: The FSF say the true about *BSD when say that *BSD include instructions for obtaining nonfree programs in their ports system? Please start with http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#39 (the OpenBSD 3.9 theme song), and look at the

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread français
does not conform" The project FreeBSD still embrace the Blob? -- View this message in context: http://openbsd-archive.7691.n7.nabble.com/The-kernels-of-BSD-include-nonfree-firmware-blobs-tp283900p283910.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
> The Free Software Foundation (FSF) says that: > > "FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD all include instructions for obtaining nonfree > programs in their ports system. In addition, their kernels include nonfree > firmware blobs. > Nonfree firmware programs used with Linux, the kernel, are called >

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Eric Furman
; backdoors. ( just one recent example: > http://www.wired.com/2015/02/nsa-firmware-hacking/ ) > > I would feel a lot safer if the kernel and packages were fully free, > containing no non-free drivers nor non-free "firmware". > > > > > > > > > > --

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread David Coppa
Il 27/nov/2015 21:43, "bofh" ha scritto: > > Do you understand your question has been answered over and over again, and > is not relevant here? > > Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD? > Because he's a troll. Stop feeding him, please.

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 27-11-2015 18:35, bofh escreveu: > Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD? Troll Detected. Troll Fed. End of Thread.

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread Eduardo Meyer
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:35 PM, bofh wrote: > Do you understand your question has been answered over and over again, and > is not relevant here? > > Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD? > My guess is, he has a Nero syndrom and is just trying to light a

Re: The kernels of *BSD include nonfree firmware blobs?

2015-11-27 Thread bofh
Do you understand your question has been answered over and over again, and is not relevant here? Why do you continue by asking about blobs in FreeBSD?