Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'll state a bunch of things that are obvious to me, but should probably be written down in some way... IPA, other names, and names in other languages indeed make reading harder. They are there because of a tradition. There's a tradition of printing encyclopedia articles like this (that's also

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Jane Darnell
I agree with Magnus that it should be Wikidata to the rescue for problems like these, not some new policy that throws current WP contributors into a tizzy. I am not sure how precisely, but maybe if all parts of a lead sentence were in Wikidata then one could then experiment with a new Wikidata

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Bahodir Mansurov
It’s official, Ryan is old-fashioned, unless you can show otherwise. Here is the challenge: [1]. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/08/opinion/sunday/algorithm-human-quiz.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/08/opinion/sunday/algorithm-human-quiz.html?_r=0 On Mar

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Well, I only got 5 out of 8. I guess computers have gotten clever. Damn new-fangled gadgets! On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Bahodir Mansurov bmansu...@wikimedia.org wrote: It’s official, Ryan is old-fashioned, unless you can show otherwise. Here is the challenge: [1]. [1]

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Monte Hurd
On Mar 9, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Call me old-fashioned, but I would really hate to see the lead sentences of Wikipedia articles auto-generated by a program. Our text is dry and monotonous enough as it is :) +1 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:05

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-09 Thread Dan Garry
On 7 March 2015 at 09:13, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: May I use this as a shameless plug for my automatic description API: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=265 You absolutely may! It has made it into my proposal for the Mobile Apps Team's work next quarter: In-line

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Magnus Manske
May I use this as a shameless plug for my automatic description API: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=265 It scores a 9 in the Hemmingway app for Nietzsche, as opposed to the 22 for the English Wikipedia initial paragraph:

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Jon Robson
On 7 Mar 2015 09:13, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: May I use this as a shameless plug for my automatic description API: http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=265 It scores a 9 in the Hemmingway app for Nietzsche, as opposed to the 22 for the English Wikipedia initial

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Magnus Manske
I would strongly recommend NOT to import automatic descriptions as manual descriptions into Wikidata. Automatic descriptions change when the data changes, new data is added, or the algorithm improves. I would prefer manual descriptions done by humans, for the comparatively small number of items

Re: [WikimediaMobile] Readability of the first sentence on Wikipedia articles

2015-03-07 Thread Ryan Kaldari
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Jon Robson jrob...@wikimedia.org wrote: Any reason this is on mobile-tech and not mobile-l (I'd love to hear from people like Amir on this subject)? It would be good to flag this problem to a wider audience and part of our problem with most mobile issues is