Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Satguru Rathi]

Hi,

KNFB reader is an OCR software which lets you convert text in to readable 
format from the printed material and immages. The software is currently 
available at 80% less cost (RS1500) from the actual prise on the playstore (Rs 
6000). Please note that you will need a Creditcard/Google play coupon to buy 
this. Once installed, you can take the photo of any printed text or can open 
immages on your phone which have text such as Whatsap immages, PDF from your 
mails etc. and convert them to readable text. Though the software is quite 
capable of capturing text with 90-95% accuracy, good lighting, way of holding 
the phone, matter. Also, minimum of 5MP camera is recommended. The app also 
comes with a “Field of View report” which lets you find out if all corners of 
the page are visible to the camera. After practising for couple of times, you 
may gain confidence and will soon be able to capture good pics.


With best regards,
Satguru
___,__.___
"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or 
later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

Satguru Rathi
+91-9871489945
satgurura...@gmail.com

From: aashutosh pandey 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 5:45 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

sir i'm talking about knfb reader app .help me out .

On 7/31/16, Aravind <aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> their will be no inbuilt talkback in both models both the companies not gave
> importance to accessibility
>
> -Original Message-
> From: aashutosh pandey
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:38 PM
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
> and Tabs.
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>
> Hello list
> can someone throw full light on knfb reader becauseI don't know very
> much about it.
> how to use it and where to by it
> hoping for your positive response
>
> On 7/26/16, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all.
>> now i am also in the market for a new phone.
>> i have experenced stock android and now am bord with it.
>> i have selected 2 phones 1 is redmi note 3.
>> i have selected this phone cause of 650chipset, 5.5inch full hd
>> screen, 4000ma and quick charge.
>> and the next 1 i am selecting is asus zenphone max 2016 cause of 64 gb
>> storage chipset is a bit week battery is 5000ma and gives 3 days
>> battery life according to geekiranjit.
>> has any1 used the mi ui or zen ui and will tell me what are the
>> problems accessibility vise in this ui.
>> another reason for selecting mi note 3 cause i like to install roms
>> and the methord of installing roms is verry accessable for us
>>
>> On 7/26/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> thank you very much friends, I bought moto x play for Rs. 17499. I am
>>> yet to experience it.
>>>
>>> Umesha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/25/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> yeah, i too agree that samsung is the head and soldier above all the
>>>> latest
>>>> phones in the  the accessibility point of view,  but in the usability
>>>> point
>>>> of view it is worse! lots of hanging and unresponsiveness  with screen
>>>> reader always bites us. that's why i don't like samsung. now most of the
>>>> indian company is doing really best making phones like lava, intex,
>>>> zolo,
>>>> micromax, etc. i believe those phones are goods in terms of both
>>>> accessibility as well as usability rather then samsung.  otherwise, our
>>>> knowledgeble friends has throw good amount of light regarding this
>>>> matter,
>>>> and now its your turn.
>>>>
>>>> raaju from kalimpong, darjeeling.
>>>>
>>>> On June 25, 2016 9:36:38 PM GMT+05:30, nitin patel
>>>> <misternitinpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>i think you should go with any android1 or any samsung phone.
>>>>>i am sure you will not face any accessibility problem.
>>>>>contac me off the group because i am not much active in mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On June 25, 2016 8:45:35 PM Mohammed arif khan <arriff.k...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Umesha,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
>>>>>> its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
>>>>>

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[aashutosh pandey]

sir i'm talking about knfb reader app .help me out .

On 7/31/16, Aravind <aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> their will be no inbuilt talkback in both models both the companies not gave
> importance to accessibility
>
> -Original Message-
> From: aashutosh pandey
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:38 PM
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
> and Tabs.
> Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>
> Hello list
> can someone throw full light on knfb reader becauseI don't know very
> much about it.
> how to use it and where to by it
> hoping for your positive response
>
> On 7/26/16, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi all.
>> now i am also in the market for a new phone.
>> i have experenced stock android and now am bord with it.
>> i have selected 2 phones 1 is redmi note 3.
>> i have selected this phone cause of 650chipset, 5.5inch full hd
>> screen, 4000ma and quick charge.
>> and the next 1 i am selecting is asus zenphone max 2016 cause of 64 gb
>> storage chipset is a bit week battery is 5000ma and gives 3 days
>> battery life according to geekiranjit.
>> has any1 used the mi ui or zen ui and will tell me what are the
>> problems accessibility vise in this ui.
>> another reason for selecting mi note 3 cause i like to install roms
>> and the methord of installing roms is verry accessable for us
>>
>> On 7/26/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> thank you very much friends, I bought moto x play for Rs. 17499. I am
>>> yet to experience it.
>>>
>>> Umesha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/25/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> yeah, i too agree that samsung is the head and soldier above all the
>>>> latest
>>>> phones in the  the accessibility point of view,  but in the usability
>>>> point
>>>> of view it is worse! lots of hanging and unresponsiveness  with screen
>>>> reader always bites us. that's why i don't like samsung. now most of the
>>>> indian company is doing really best making phones like lava, intex,
>>>> zolo,
>>>> micromax, etc. i believe those phones are goods in terms of both
>>>> accessibility as well as usability rather then samsung.  otherwise, our
>>>> knowledgeble friends has throw good amount of light regarding this
>>>> matter,
>>>> and now its your turn.
>>>>
>>>> raaju from kalimpong, darjeeling.
>>>>
>>>> On June 25, 2016 9:36:38 PM GMT+05:30, nitin patel
>>>> <misternitinpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>i think you should go with any android1 or any samsung phone.
>>>>>i am sure you will not face any accessibility problem.
>>>>>contac me off the group because i am not much active in mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On June 25, 2016 8:45:35 PM Mohammed arif khan <arriff.k...@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Umesha,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
>>>>>> its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
>>>>>> should  have to wait a bit.
>>>>>> feature of Moto devices is that the system updates will get continue
>>>>>to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with warm regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobile:: +91 9013155115
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using MOTO G 4 PLUS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/25/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
>>>>>>> accessibility issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Umesha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be
>>>>>used by
>>>>>>>> totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE
>>>>><umesha.e...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>&

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Aravind]

their will be no inbuilt talkback in both models both the companies not gave 
importance to accessibility


-Original Message- 
From: aashutosh pandey

Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:38 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs.

Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

Hello list
can someone throw full light on knfb reader becauseI don't know very
much about it.
how to use it and where to by it
hoping for your positive response

On 7/26/16, Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xavi...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi all.
now i am also in the market for a new phone.
i have experenced stock android and now am bord with it.
i have selected 2 phones 1 is redmi note 3.
i have selected this phone cause of 650chipset, 5.5inch full hd
screen, 4000ma and quick charge.
and the next 1 i am selecting is asus zenphone max 2016 cause of 64 gb
storage chipset is a bit week battery is 5000ma and gives 3 days
battery life according to geekiranjit.
has any1 used the mi ui or zen ui and will tell me what are the
problems accessibility vise in this ui.
another reason for selecting mi note 3 cause i like to install roms
and the methord of installing roms is verry accessable for us

On 7/26/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

thank you very much friends, I bought moto x play for Rs. 17499. I am
yet to experience it.

Umesha


On 6/25/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:

yeah, i too agree that samsung is the head and soldier above all the
latest
phones in the  the accessibility point of view,  but in the usability
point
of view it is worse! lots of hanging and unresponsiveness  with screen
reader always bites us. that's why i don't like samsung. now most of the
indian company is doing really best making phones like lava, intex, 
zolo,

micromax, etc. i believe those phones are goods in terms of both
accessibility as well as usability rather then samsung.  otherwise, our
knowledgeble friends has throw good amount of light regarding this
matter,
and now its your turn.

raaju from kalimpong, darjeeling.

On June 25, 2016 9:36:38 PM GMT+05:30, nitin patel
<misternitinpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

i think you should go with any android1 or any samsung phone.
i am sure you will not face any accessibility problem.
contac me off the group because i am not much active in mailing list.


On June 25, 2016 8:45:35 PM Mohammed arif khan <arriff.k...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Dear Umesha,

  in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
should  have to wait a bit.
feature of Moto devices is that the system updates will get continue

to be.


with warm regards

Arif

Mobile:: +91 9013155115


Using MOTO G 4 PLUS



On 6/25/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
accessibility issues.

Umesha


On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:

hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be

used by

totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?

On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE

<umesha.e...@gmail.com>

wrote:

Dear friends,
thank you for your valuable suggestions.
I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and

make

them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy

to

my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good

and

heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning

books

and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books

with

it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.

yours
Umesha
,,

On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:

according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over

the

mobile

is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile

scanning, if

you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day

use,

like

reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some

novals you

want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as

satguru

sir

says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to

batch

scan,

but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer

application.


best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the

resolution for

recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's

why 5

mp

camera is more then enough for knfb reader.

for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto

phone is

the best.

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[aashutosh pandey]

gt;>>>>>>and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
>>>>>>>>with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
>>>>>>>>above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
>>>>>>>>resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books
>>>>with
>>>>>>>>it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>yours
>>>>>>>>Umesha
>>>>>>>>,,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>mobile
>>>>>>>>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>>>>>>>>scanning, if
>>>>>>>>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day
>>>>use,
>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>>>>>>>>novals you
>>>>>>>>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as
>>>>satguru
>>>>>>>>sir
>>>>>>>>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to
>>>>batch
>>>>>>>>scan,
>>>>>>>>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>>>>>>>>application.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>>>>>>>>resolution for
>>>>>>>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's
>>>>why 5
>>>>>>>>mp
>>>>>>>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>>>>>>>phone is
>>>>>>>>> the best.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>>>>>>>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch
>>>>Mode”
>>>>>>>>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are
>>>>portable
>>>>>>>>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>>>>>>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>>>>>>>>timely
>>>>>>>>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>>>>>>>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in
>>>>most of
>>>>>>>>>>these fields.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>Satguru
>>>>>>>>>>___,__.___
>>>>>>>>>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man.
>>>>But
>>>>>>>>>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Satguru Rathi
>>>>>>>>>>+91-9871489945
>>>>>>>>>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>>>>>>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>>>mobile
>>>>>>>>>>phones and Tabs.
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>>>>>>>>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it
>>>>will
>>>>>>>>

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Austin Pinto]

>>>>>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over
>>>the
>>>>>>>mobile
>>>>>>>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>>>>>>>scanning, if
>>>>>>>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day
>>>use,
>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>>>>>>>novals you
>>>>>>>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as
>>>satguru
>>>>>>>sir
>>>>>>>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to
>>>batch
>>>>>>>scan,
>>>>>>>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>>>>>>>application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>>>>>>>resolution for
>>>>>>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's
>>>why 5
>>>>>>>mp
>>>>>>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>>>>>>phone is
>>>>>>>> the best.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>>>>>>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch
>>>Mode”
>>>>>>>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without
>>>a
>>>>>>>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are
>>>portable
>>>>>>>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>>>>>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>>>>>>>timely
>>>>>>>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>>>>>>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in
>>>most of
>>>>>>>>>these fields.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>With best regards,
>>>>>>>>>Satguru
>>>>>>>>>___,__.___
>>>>>>>>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man.
>>>But
>>>>>>>>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Satguru Rathi
>>>>>>>>>+91-9871489945
>>>>>>>>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>>mobile
>>>>>>>>>phones and Tabs.
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>>>>>>>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it
>>>will
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
>>>>>>>>>camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone
>>>which
>>>>>>>>>has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends
>>>upon
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is
>>>able
>>>>>>>>>to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
>>>>>>>>>purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't
>>>recommend
>>>>>>>>>anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Umesha SE]

is that it doesn't uses the
>>>>>>resolution for
>>>>>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's
>>why 5
>>>>>>mp
>>>>>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>>>>>phone is
>>>>>>> the best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>>>>>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch
>>Mode”
>>>>>>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without
>>a
>>>>>>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are
>>portable
>>>>>>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>>>>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>>>>>>timely
>>>>>>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>>>>>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in
>>most of
>>>>>>>>these fields.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>With best regards,
>>>>>>>>Satguru
>>>>>>>>___,__.___
>>>>>>>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man.
>>But
>>>>>>>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Satguru Rathi
>>>>>>>>+91-9871489945
>>>>>>>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>>>>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>mobile
>>>>>>>>phones and Tabs.
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>>>>>>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it
>>will
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
>>>>>>>>camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone
>>which
>>>>>>>>has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends
>>upon
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is
>>able
>>>>>>>>to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
>>>>>>>>purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't
>>recommend
>>>>>>>>anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice
>>as it
>>>>>>>>> has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB
>>in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>> devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trust that helps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/22/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2
>>>>>>models.
>>>>>>>>>> one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera,
>>another is
>>>>>>>>>> samsung galaxy J7 with 16GB internal memory and 13 MP camera.
>>>>>>please
>>>>>>>>>> suggest me which to go for and why. my main intension is to
>>use it
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>> scanner to scan books, ofcourse with along wi

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Raju Singh]

yeah, i too agree that samsung is the head and soldier above all the latest 
phones in the  the accessibility point of view,  but in the usability point of 
view it is worse! lots of hanging and unresponsiveness  with screen reader 
always bites us. that's why i don't like samsung. now most of the indian 
company is doing really best making phones like lava, intex, zolo, micromax, 
etc. i believe those phones are goods in terms of both accessibility as well as 
usability rather then samsung.  otherwise, our knowledgeble friends has throw 
good amount of light regarding this matter, and now its your turn. 

raaju from kalimpong, darjeeling. 

On June 25, 2016 9:36:38 PM GMT+05:30, nitin patel <misternitinpa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>i think you should go with any android1 or any samsung phone.
>i am sure you will not face any accessibility problem.
>contac me off the group because i am not much active in mailing list.
>
>
>On June 25, 2016 8:45:35 PM Mohammed arif khan <arriff.k...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Dear Umesha,
>>
>>   in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
>> its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
>> should  have to wait a bit.
>> feature of Moto devices is that the system updates will get continue
>to be.
>>
>> with warm regards
>>
>> Arif
>>
>> Mobile:: +91 9013155115
>>
>>
>> Using MOTO G 4 PLUS
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/25/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
>>> accessibility issues.
>>>
>>> Umesha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be
>used by
>>>> totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?
>>>>
>>>> On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE
><umesha.e...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>Dear friends,
>>>>>thank you for your valuable suggestions.
>>>>>I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
>>>>>camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and
>make
>>>>>them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy
>to
>>>>>my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
>>>>>obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
>>>>>prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good
>and
>>>>>heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning
>books
>>>>>and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
>>>>>with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
>>>>>above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
>>>>>resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books
>with
>>>>>it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>yours
>>>>>Umesha
>>>>>,,
>>>>>
>>>>>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over
>the
>>>>>mobile
>>>>>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>>>>>scanning, if
>>>>>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day
>use,
>>>>>like
>>>>>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>>>>>novals you
>>>>>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as
>satguru
>>>>>sir
>>>>>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to
>batch
>>>>>scan,
>>>>>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>>>>>application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>>>>>resolution for
>>>>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's
>why 5
>>>>>mp
>>>>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>>>>phone is
>>>>>> the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>>>>> <

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Austin Pinto]

go for moto g4 stay away from samsung

On 6/25/16, nitin patel <misternitinpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i think you should go with any android1 or any samsung phone.
> i am sure you will not face any accessibility problem.
> contac me off the group because i am not much active in mailing list.
>
>
> On June 25, 2016 8:45:35 PM Mohammed arif khan <arriff.k...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Umesha,
>>
>>   in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
>> its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
>> should  have to wait a bit.
>> feature of Moto devices is that the system updates will get continue to
>> be.
>>
>> with warm regards
>>
>> Arif
>>
>> Mobile:: +91 9013155115
>>
>>
>> Using MOTO G 4 PLUS
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/25/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
>>> accessibility issues.
>>>
>>> Umesha
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be used by
>>>> totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?
>>>>
>>>> On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>Dear friends,
>>>>>thank you for your valuable suggestions.
>>>>>I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
>>>>>camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and make
>>>>>them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy to
>>>>>my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
>>>>>obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
>>>>>prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good and
>>>>>heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning books
>>>>>and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
>>>>>with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
>>>>>above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
>>>>>resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books with
>>>>>it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>yours
>>>>>Umesha
>>>>>,,
>>>>>
>>>>>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the
>>>>>mobile
>>>>>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>>>>>scanning, if
>>>>>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use,
>>>>>like
>>>>>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>>>>>novals you
>>>>>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru
>>>>>sir
>>>>>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch
>>>>>scan,
>>>>>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>>>>>application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>>>>>resolution for
>>>>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5
>>>>>mp
>>>>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>>>>phone is
>>>>>> the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>>>>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
>>>>>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
>>>>>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
>>>>>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>>>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>>>>>timely
>>>>>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>>>>>before making a decision. Moto p

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[nitin patel]

i think you should go with any android1 or any samsung phone.
i am sure you will not face any accessibility problem.
contac me off the group because i am not much active in mailing list.


On June 25, 2016 8:45:35 PM Mohammed arif khan <arriff.k...@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear Umesha,

  in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
should  have to wait a bit.
feature of Moto devices is that the system updates will get continue to be.

with warm regards

Arif

Mobile:: +91 9013155115


Using MOTO G 4 PLUS



On 6/25/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
accessibility issues.

Umesha


On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:

hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be used by
totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?

On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear friends,
thank you for your valuable suggestions.
I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and make
them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy to
my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good and
heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning books
and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books with
it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.

yours
Umesha
,,

On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:

according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the

mobile

is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile

scanning, if

you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use,

like

reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some

novals you

want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru

sir

says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch

scan,

but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer

application.


best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the

resolution for

recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5

mp

camera is more then enough for knfb reader.

for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto

phone is

the best.

On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
<tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:

To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
scanning stands available to carry around.
Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as

timely

updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of
these fields.

With best regards,
Satguru
___,__.___
"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

Satguru Rathi
+91-9871489945
satgurura...@gmail.com

From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
phones and Tabs.
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will

be

time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon

the

OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.

On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in

the

devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.

Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.

Trust that helps.

On 6/22/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends,

I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2

models.

one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera, another is
samsung galaxy J7 with 

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Mohammed arif khan]

Dear Umesha,

  in my opinion you should buy MOTO G 4 PLUS OR MOTO X PLAY
its stock android device and MOTO launching soon MOTO Z. I think you
should  have to wait a bit.
feature of Moto devices is that the system updates will get continue to be.

with warm regards

Arif

Mobile:: +91 9013155115


Using MOTO G 4 PLUS



On 6/25/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
> accessibility issues.
>
> Umesha
>
>
> On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be used by
>> totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?
>>
>> On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>Dear friends,
>>>thank you for your valuable suggestions.
>>>I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
>>>camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and make
>>>them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy to
>>>my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
>>>obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
>>>prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good and
>>>heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning books
>>>and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
>>>with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
>>>above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
>>>resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books with
>>>it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.
>>>
>>>yours
>>>Umesha
>>>,,
>>>
>>>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the
>>>mobile
>>>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>>>scanning, if
>>>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use,
>>>like
>>>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>>>novals you
>>>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru
>>>sir
>>>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch
>>>scan,
>>>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>>>application.
>>>>
>>>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>>>resolution for
>>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5
>>>mp
>>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>>
>>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>>phone is
>>>> the best.
>>>>
>>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
>>>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
>>>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
>>>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>>>timely
>>>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of
>>>>>these fields.
>>>>>
>>>>>With best regards,
>>>>>Satguru
>>>>>___,__.___
>>>>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>>>>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>>>
>>>>>Satguru Rathi
>>>>>+91-9871489945
>>>>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>>>>>phones and Tabs.
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>>>>
>>>>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>>>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will
>>>be
>>>>>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using ph

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Umesha SE]

unfortunately sir, the answer is negative. Camscanner has many
accessibility issues.

Umesha


On 6/24/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be used by
> totally blind person for taking the snap of paper?
>
> On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>Dear friends,
>>thank you for your valuable suggestions.
>>I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
>>camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and make
>>them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy to
>>my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
>>obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
>>prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good and
>>heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning books
>>and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
>>with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
>>above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
>>resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books with
>>it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.
>>
>>yours
>>Umesha
>>,,
>>
>>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the
>>mobile
>>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>>scanning, if
>>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use,
>>like
>>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>>novals you
>>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru
>>sir
>>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch
>>scan,
>>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>>application.
>>>
>>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>>resolution for
>>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5
>>mp
>>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>>
>>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>>phone is
>>> the best.
>>>
>>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
>>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
>>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
>>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>>timely
>>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of
>>>>these fields.
>>>>
>>>>With best regards,
>>>>Satguru
>>>>___,__.___
>>>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>>>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>>
>>>>Satguru Rathi
>>>>+91-9871489945
>>>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>>>>phones and Tabs.
>>>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>>>
>>>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will
>>be
>>>>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
>>>>camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
>>>>has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon
>>the
>>>>OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
>>>>to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
>>>>purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
>>>>anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.
>>>>
>>>>On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
>>>>> has good c

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Raju Singh]

hello, sounds interesting. so may i know this apps could also be used by 
totally blind person for taking the snap of paper? 

On June 24, 2016 1:10:39 PM GMT+05:30, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Dear friends,
>thank you for your valuable suggestions.
>I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
>camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and make
>them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy to
>my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
>obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
>prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good and
>heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning books
>and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
>with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
>above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
>resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books with
>it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.
>
>yours
>Umesha
>,,
>
>On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the
>mobile
>> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile
>scanning, if
>> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use,
>like
>> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some
>novals you
>> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru
>sir
>> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch
>scan,
>> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer
>application.
>>
>> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the
>resolution for
>> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5
>mp
>> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>>
>> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto
>phone is
>> the best.
>>
>> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
>> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
>>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
>>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
>>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as
>timely
>>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of
>>>these fields.
>>>
>>>With best regards,
>>>Satguru
>>>___,__.___
>>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>>
>>>Satguru Rathi
>>>+91-9871489945
>>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>>>phones and Tabs.
>>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>>
>>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will
>be
>>>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
>>>camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
>>>has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon
>the
>>>OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
>>>to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
>>>purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
>>>anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.
>>>
>>>On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
>>>> has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in
>>>the
>>>> devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.
>>>>
>>>> Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.
>>>>
>>>> Trust that helps.
>>>>
>>>> On 6/22/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to buy a smartphone. I

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Umesha SE]

Dear friends,
thank you for your valuable suggestions.
I am not using KNFB reader. I take images using an app called
camscanner. this app processes the images for darkness etc, and make
them readable to OCR softwares. then I convert them to PDF and copy to
my computer. pdf option is available in camscanner. I feed thus
obtained images to Kurzweil and get the converted KES files. I have
prepared my own stand for holding the mobile. though not very good and
heavy in weight, it is portable. I want to use this for scanning books
and not for bills, receipts, etc. I am already having a 5MP camera
with samsung core prime. but it cannot scan large pages like A4 and
above. also, I cannot scan 2 pages at a time as the quality and
resolution of images will be reduced. I am scanning small books with
it without problem. any further suggestion will be appreciated.

yours
Umesha
,,

On 6/22/16, Raju Singh <bidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the mobile
> is still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile scanning, if
> you are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use, like
> reading bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some novals you
> want to study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru sir
> says, you might have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch scan,
> but it can not be gurented about the accuracy as computer application.
>
> best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the resolution for
> recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5 mp
> camera is more then enough for knfb reader.
>
> for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto phone is
> the best.
>
> On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi
> <tarannumra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
>>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
>>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
>>scanning stands available to carry around.
>>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as timely
>>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of
>>these fields.
>>
>>With best regards,
>>Satguru
>>___,__.___
>>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>>
>>Satguru Rathi
>>+91-9871489945
>>satgurura...@gmail.com
>>
>>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>>phones and Tabs.
>>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>>
>>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will be
>>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
>>camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
>>has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon the
>>OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
>>to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
>>purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
>>anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.
>>
>>On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
>>> has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in
>>the
>>> devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.
>>>
>>> Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.
>>>
>>> Trust that helps.
>>>
>>> On 6/22/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear friends,
>>>>
>>>> I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2 models.
>>>> one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera, another is
>>>> samsung galaxy J7 with 16GB internal memory and 13 MP camera. please
>>>> suggest me which to go for and why. my main intension is to use it
>>as
>>>> scanner to scan books, ofcourse with along with other uses.
>>>>
>>>> kindly give suggestions and help
>>>> Umesha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Search for previous postings at:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindi

Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Raju Singh]

according to my observation, the algorithm for knfb reader over the mobile is 
still premature.   and you can no longer be rely on  mobile scanning, if you 
are scanning some serious things. however for the day by day use, like reading 
bills, printed applications, restorent menus, even some novals you want to 
study etc, this program is the perfect solution. as satguru sir says, you might 
have to adopt the knfb stand.  if you want to batch scan, but it can not be 
gurented about the accuracy as computer application. 

best thing about this knfb reader is that it doesn't uses the resolution for 
recognization purpose, instead it uses zuming function, that's why 5 mp camera 
is more then enough for knfb reader.  

for the smart phone recommendation, i would like to believe moto phone is the 
best. 

On June 22, 2016 4:32:41 PM GMT+05:30, Satguru Rathi <tarannumra...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
>To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode”
>for continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a
>dedicated stand and would be intresting to know if there are portable
>scanning stands available to carry around.
>Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as timely
>updates, battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider
>before making a decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of
>these fields.
>
>With best regards,
>Satguru
>___,__.___
>"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But
>sooner or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>
>Satguru Rathi
>+91-9871489945
>satgurura...@gmail.com
>
>From: Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
>To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>phones and Tabs. 
>Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone
>
>Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
>reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will be
>time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
>camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
>has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon the
>OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
>to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
>purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
>anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.
>
>On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
>> has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in
>the
>> devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.
>>
>> Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.
>>
>> Trust that helps.
>>
>> On 6/22/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear friends,
>>>
>>> I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2 models.
>>> one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera, another is
>>> samsung galaxy J7 with 16GB internal memory and 13 MP camera. please
>>> suggest me which to go for and why. my main intension is to use it
>as
>>> scanner to scan books, ofcourse with along with other uses.
>>>
>>> kindly give suggestions and help
>>> Umesha
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Satguru Rathi]

To add to what Mohib said, though the KNFB reader offers “Batch Mode” for 
continuous scanning, heavy scanning won’t be possible without a dedicated stand 
and would be intresting to know if there are portable scanning stands available 
to carry around.
Coming to phone, accessibility and lots of other things such as timely updates, 
battery, etc. are other contributing factors to consider before making a 
decision. Moto phones find their way ahead in most of these fields.

With best regards,
Satguru
___,__.___
"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or 
later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

Satguru Rathi
+91-9871489945
satgurura...@gmail.com

From: Mohib Anwar Rafay 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:55 PM
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs. 
Subject: Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will be
time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon the
OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.

On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure <rkelap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
> has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in the
> devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.
>
> Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.
>
> Trust that helps.
>
> On 6/22/16, Umesha SE <umesha.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2 models.
>> one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera, another is
>> samsung galaxy J7 with 16GB internal memory and 13 MP camera. please
>> suggest me which to go for and why. my main intension is to use it as
>> scanner to scan books, ofcourse with along with other uses.
>>
>> kindly give suggestions and help
>> Umesha
>>
>>
>>
>> Search for previous postings at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
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Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

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Scanning books using mobile phone? Are you going to rely on KNFB
reader for it? if yes, it won't be much helpful for you, as it will be
time taking and cumbursom process to scan whole book using phone
camera. If you are committed to it, you can purchase any phone which
has more than 8 mp camera, as the recognition quality depends upon the
OCR engen and not on the phone camera, provided phone camera is able
to take clear picture, and 8 mp camera is fine for it. So you can
purchase any Moto, Sony, Xiaomi, LG or Opo phones, I don't recommend
anyone to purchase Samsung, as it hangs too much using talkback.

On 6/22/16, Rahul Kelapure  wrote:
> I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
> has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in the
> devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.
>
> Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.
>
> Trust that helps.
>
> On 6/22/16, Umesha SE  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2 models.
>> one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera, another is
>> samsung galaxy J7 with 16GB internal memory and 13 MP camera. please
>> suggest me which to go for and why. my main intension is to use it as
>> scanner to scan books, ofcourse with along with other uses.
>>
>> kindly give suggestions and help
>> Umesha
>>
>>
>>
>> Search for previous postings at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mobile.accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
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Re: [Mobile.AI] suggestion for buying new smartphone

[Rahul Kelapure]

I think, if you go for MotoG 4+ that would be a better choice as it
has good cam and over all good and has 3 GB ram compare to 2 GB in the
devices you mentioned and has quick charge technology included.

Only problem could be that, it gets heated on continuous usage.

Trust that helps.

On 6/22/16, Umesha SE  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> I want to buy a smartphone. I have to finalize between the 2 models.
> one is moto X play with 16GB internal and 21 MP camera, another is
> samsung galaxy J7 with 16GB internal memory and 13 MP camera. please
> suggest me which to go for and why. my main intension is to use it as
> scanner to scan books, ofcourse with along with other uses.
>
> kindly give suggestions and help
> Umesha
>
>
>
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