>
> Can we move on please ?
>
> I already have. I didnt mean to open such a big can of worms here :(
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On May 10, 2013, at 2:35 AM, Florian Effenberger
wrote:
>>HOW can you condemn Jonathan's behaviour ???
>
> please read this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
All the debates is very disingenuous. That link puts the
top-posting/bottom-posting in 16th position, just abov
On May 10, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Seems like pretty much every list has a large proportion of people
> top-posting.
Indeed. And as you say, modern devices make that difference irrelevant. Old
quoted parts of mails are often not displayed by the software, mobile devices
only ha
I didnt mean to open a can of worms with all of this.
Tom this was discussed and voted on and i remember seeing this. I wish
there was a setting i could adjust in gmail to not hide the previous email
text.
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Which community? When was
Hi :)
Which community? When was the vote? Who was allowed to have a say in it?
Seems like pretty much every list has a large proportion of people top-posting.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Florian Effenberger
>To: moderators@documentfoundation.org
>S
Hi :)
Who chooses which bits to trim?
The problem you folks have is that 98% of the world uses top-posting. If you
can't cope with top-posting then only 2% of the world can help you with your
work. You are actively blocking 98% of people that might be willing to help
out.
Your fight agai
Hi :)
Ok, it seemed like a good idea without really knowing the technical side of it.
If the technical side would make it tricky then lets just halt the chat about
this.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Marc Paré
>To: Jonathan Aquilina
>Cc: moderators@
Hi :)
Tablets, phones and other hand-helds often make it difficult or impossible to
bottom post. Your fight to block top-posters from being involved means
blocking almost everyone, especially office workers.
An office suite that can't cope with being used by office workers!
Regards from
Tom
On 05/09/2013 08:26 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Anne, what the bottom posters want is to make it awkward for people.
It is exactly the opposite. Bottom posting makes it easier to understand
the context. Top posting makes it not just awkward but impossible to
understand the context, and forces to go t
Le 09/05/13 08:56 AM, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit :
Hey Florian Marc and everyone. I was just thinking seeing as we have a
moderators mailing list now for the mailing lists, could the
moderators email address be extended to use with the forums when that
time comes?
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Hi Anne, Tom,
On 09/05/2013 21:19, anne-ology wrote:
>I agree.
>
>And I will continue to be logical, using common sense.
>
>And I will continue to defend those who are unfairly attacked; even
> if it means being attacked myself.
>
>I've always followed this advice
Hi,
Am 09.05.2013 21:19, schrieb anne-ology:
>I agree.
What do you agree to?
Stefan
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I agree.
And I will continue to be logical, using common sense.
And I will continue to defend those who are unfairly attacked; even
if it means being attacked myself.
I've always followed this advice; I see no reason to cease now,
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM, To
Tom,
Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-09 20:26:
Notice that the Netiquette guide is from several decades ago, it's
pre-hand-helds, pre-tablets, even pre-mobile-phones. It's deeply routed in
ancient technology and old ways of doing things from an era that has long since
gone.
this Netiquette is
Hi :)
Anne, what the bottom posters want is to make it awkward for people. They
don't want you to just reply to the message. You have to edit out the bits
that in your opinion are not relevant anymore so that their message becomes
your interpretation of what they might have been trying to say
Hi,
anne-ology wrote on 2013-05-09 19:18:
What's the matter with Jonathan's method?
And Top-posting is the most logical method;
otherwise you have to re-read what you've already read in order
to see the new bit.
[are bottom-posters so forgetful???]
What's the matter with Jonathan's method?
And Top-posting is the most logical method;
otherwise you have to re-read what you've already read in order
to see the new bit.
[are bottom-posters so forgetful???]
HOW can you condemn Jonathan's behaviour ?
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Jonathan Aquilina píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 17:58 +0200:
>
> > that is a very valid question.
>
> I appreciate your energy you spend here, but can you please decrease the
> amount of mail you write to tdf-moderators@? A mess
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Aquilina píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 17:58 +0200:
> that is a very valid question.
I appreciate your energy you spend here, but can you please decrease the
amount of mail you write to tdf-moderators@? A message like "that is a
very valid question" adds no value; I am sure som
Hi Christian,
Le 09/05/2013 17:57, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
> Hi Jean-Baptiste, *,
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
> wrote:
>> Le 09/05/2013 16:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier
>>> wrote:
On 09/05/2013 15:52, J
Jean-Baptiste rejecting the email gets it off the server so to speak
otherwise just ignoring it it sits there for 10 days before being rejected.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier
wrote:
> Hi Jean-Baptiste, *,
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
> wrote:
> >
that is a very valid question.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 09/05/2013 16:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
> > Hi *,
> >
> > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier
> wrote:
> >> On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> >>> Isnt that the
Hi Jean-Baptiste, *,
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
wrote:
> Le 09/05/2013 16:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
>> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier
>> wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying
Hi,
Le 09/05/2013 16:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :
> Hi *,
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier
> wrote:
>> On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>>> Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject?
>>
>> yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days dela
Hi *,
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote:
> On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>> Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject?
>
> yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days delay, the mail
> will be automagically destroyed :)
The effect for the
Hi :)
Thanks Sophie :)
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Sophie Gautier
>To: moderators@documentfoundation.org
>Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 14:54
>Subject: Re: [tdf-moderators] Fwd: Please moderate
>mirr...@documentfoundation.org: Software Solutions for Small,
Totally agreed I think what anne-ology was concerned we would be sending an
email back to the spammer saying this is a valid email keep on spamming me.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> All true
>
> However if something reaches this list it has already been rejected.
Hi :)
All true
However if something reaches this list it has already been rejected. We just
try to rescue the ones that were valid and sent here by mistake.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Jonathan Aquilina
>To: anne-ology
>Cc: Tom Davies ; Florian Effe
I agree; and would be glad to help.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :)
> I was hoping to be a moderator on one of the forums and it would be a neat
> trick if this list could be the central place for moderators of all the
> different systems. I know people at Ask L
this isnt replying to the spammer this is replying to the server telling it
to reject the message.
thanks to google this saved this address automatically
this is what i am replying to discuss+reject-2521220c3d6c2f84 <
discuss+reject-2521220c3d6c2...@documentfoundation.org> which tells mlmmj
to re
as in Mission Impossible ;-)
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote:
On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> > Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject?
>
> yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days delay, the mail
> will be automagically
There's a problem with replying to a spammer; in that way you're
merely acknowledging that the e-address is valid.
To my way of thinking, that's a bad thing to do; isn't it better to
ignore & hope the spammer will give up.
Also, these spammers tend to use slightly different e
I am sorry for this spam. My fingers were too fast and sent an empty
reply to a wrong mail.
Best Regards,
Petr
Petr Mladek píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 15:43 +0200:
> Florian Effenberger píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 14:57 +0200:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 14:56:
> > > Hey Flor
On 09/05/2013 15:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject?
yes, it's said on the mail that passed a 10 (?) days delay, the mail
will be automagically destroyed :)
Kind regards
Sophie
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Isnt that the same thing as emailing back saying reject?
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I get the impression that if we do nothing then the message gets blocked.
> So if you don't like a message or think it's spam then it's fine to leave
> it.
>
> We are mainly tryi
Hi :)
I get the impression that if we do nothing then the message gets blocked. So
if you don't like a message or think it's spam then it's fine to leave it.
We are mainly trying to catch the ones that should not have been blocked in
order to unblock them.
Regard from
Tom :)
>__
Florian Effenberger píše v Čt 09. 05. 2013 v 14:57 +0200:
> Hi,
>
> Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 14:56:
> > Hey Florian Marc and everyone. I was just thinking seeing as we have a
> > moderators mailing list now for the mailing lists, could the moderators
> > email address be extended to u
Hi Jonathan,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 15:20:
florian any chance you can black list this domain as this is the 3rd email
today from the same company in the span of a few hrs to the mirrors list i
have rejected them all but still its very annoying that they are still
pushing to spam t
On 09/05/2013 15:11, Florian Effenberger wrote:
> Hi Sophie,
>
> Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-05-09 15:10:
>> I was adapting my moderation folder and realized that I might be the
>> only one moderating the Nabble gateway now that Drew is away for a
>> while, or is there anybody else with me? this
Hi,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 15:25:
Would it be worth sending out an email to those moderators of other
parts of the project such as wiki etc to sign up here?
Maybe as well making a global announcement that if anyone finds spam on
mailing lists etc for example can contact moderator
Would it be worth sending out an email to those moderators of other parts
of the project such as wiki etc to sign up here?
Maybe as well making a global announcement that if anyone finds spam on
mailing lists etc for example can contact moderators here.
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Florian Ef
florian any chance you can black list this domain as this is the 3rd email
today from the same company in the span of a few hrs to the mirrors list i
have rejected them all but still its very annoying that they are still
pushing to spam the list.
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Date
Hi :)
I would be quite happy to be a moderator on Nabble too. At the moment it feels
weird not being able to help there as i still see the normal emails and Nabble
as being the same thing. It's confusing me.
Regards from
Tom :)
>
> From: Sophie Gautier
>
Hi Sophie,
Sophie Gautier wrote on 2013-05-09 15:10:
I was adapting my moderation folder and realized that I might be the
only one moderating the Nabble gateway now that Drew is away for a
while, or is there anybody else with me? this is not a charge, there is
very few to do, but more for the ca
Hi,
Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 15:07:
Florian i agree with Tom this should be a central list for all projects
that need moderation. Does the wiki and other things do they have their
own moderation mailing list?
no - there's no actual need for that, but of course, wiki admins can use
Hi Flo,
I was adapting my moderation folder and realized that I might be the
only one moderating the Nabble gateway now that Drew is away for a
while, or is there anybody else with me? this is not a charge, there is
very few to do, but more for the case where I'm not available.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
The forums are still in development stages, sadly that stopped so I am not
sure what the deal is there. Marc Pare would be the guy to talk to if you
want to help out there.
Florian i agree with Tom this should be a central list for all projects
that need moderation. Does the wiki and other th
Hi :)
I was hoping to be a moderator on one of the forums and it would be a neat
trick if this list could be the central place for moderators of all the
different systems. I know people at Ask LO were asking for a list where they
could co-ordinate their answers. I'm not sure if they already ha
Hi,
Donald Norwood wrote on 2013-05-09 14:36:
Got it. With not much traffic on the mirrors mailing list I can assist
with other lists as needed.
thanks! I think we're fine at the moment, but if there's one specific
list you would like to moderate, let me know. :)
Florian
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Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2013-05-09 14:56:
Hey Florian Marc and everyone. I was just thinking seeing as we have a
moderators mailing list now for the mailing lists, could the moderators
email address be extended to use with the forums when that time comes?
anyone can subscribe to this li
Hey Florian Marc and everyone. I was just thinking seeing as we have a
moderators mailing list now for the mailing lists, could the moderators
email address be extended to use with the forums when that time comes?
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Hi Florian,
On 05/09/2013 02:26 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
Hi Donald,
Donald Norwood wrote on 2013-05-09 03:40:
Are we only receiving moderation requests for the mirrors mailing list
or all the the mailing lists? My confusion comes from the initial email
with the fill mail listing.
it's
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 10:29 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> It's a bit difficult to prove or disprove without having even just a trial
> period.
Sure we have to make a decision based on our experience. Then again,
having a clear, focused purpose and audience to the list would be good;
ultim
Hi :)
It's a bit difficult to prove or disprove without having even just a trial
period.
I'd not heard about the Firebird issue. Could i pass that around to a few
other people that are working on different aspects of Base, such as those in
documentation, the users list and such or is it be
Hi Tom,
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 20:57 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> Ahah, could we have a special list for Base? Not for any of the other
> modules/apps because they are not so desperately in need of cross-list
> collaboration in order to get some basics working.
This is a long-term request o
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