Re: mod_perl 1.24, nmake test causes Apache Win32 to crash.

2000-05-19 Thread Randy Kobes
On Sat, 20 May 2000, Thomas wrote: > hi, > I've run into some oddities.. > running nmake test causes to seriously crash > at "internal/table" while the same test with 1.22 passes fine. > Test "internal/api" FAILS for both 1.22 / 1.24 > > Both are compiled with identical setups using VC6 / WinN

mod_perl 1.24, nmake test causes Apache Win32 to crash.

2000-05-19 Thread Thomas
hi, I've run into some oddities.. running nmake test causes to seriously crash at "internal/table" while the same test with 1.22 passes fine. Test "internal/api" FAILS for both 1.22 / 1.24 Both are compiled with identical setups using VC6 / WinNT with the 1.3.12 / 5.00503 libs . suggestions, a

mod_perl and BSDi 4.1

2000-05-19 Thread Russell Hay
I am having a problem getting mod_perl to actually load under apache (as a DSO) on BSDi/4.1... it appears that (even though the file exists in the proper location) it cannot find libperl.so. I double/triple checked that libperl.so is in the proper location, and I have followed the recommendation

Re: Questions about Apache::Session

2000-05-19 Thread Bruce W. Hoylman
> "Edgardo" == Edgardo Szulsztein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Edgardo> Then, I tried to use FileStore, and it worked Edgardo> fine. However, it stores the sessions files in the /tmp Edgardo> directory. How could I change the location of the sessions Edgardo> file in the httpd

Re: LARGE PERL footprint

2000-05-19 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Fri, 19 May 2000, David Larkin wrote: > Can anyone help explain why PERL gives such a large memory > footprint & advise how to get around it. Your array might be smaller if you pre-extend it to the size you need (see perldata). You could also look at some of the sneaky bit vector modules on C

Re: LARGE PERL footprint

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, David Larkin wrote: > Can anyone help explain why PERL gives such a large memory > footprint & advise how to get around it. > > Running the simple script below, I get a footprint of 63 MB > about 22 bytes per int. > > The C program only 11748 K ... 4 bytes per int > > > #

LARGE PERL footprint

2000-05-19 Thread David Larkin
Can anyone help explain why PERL gives such a large memory footprint & advise how to get around it. Running the simple script below, I get a footprint of 63 MB about 22 bytes per int. The C program only 11748 K ... 4 bytes per int #!/usr/local/bin/perl for ( $i=0 ; $i< 300 ; $i++ ) {

Re: question - can asp be run as cgi???

2000-05-19 Thread Joshua Chamas
Charles Dalsass wrote: > > Hey dudes, new poster here. > > I've got a project which the client has said 'no mod perl' but only cgi > and perl. They've got a really powerful machine, but are 'afraid' of > using mod_perl (because of memory issues, administration etc). > Performance should not be a

mod_perl on HP-UX ?

2000-05-19 Thread Andy Johnson
Are there any gotchas to using mod_perl on HP-UX? I seem to remember somewhere in the Apache documentation something about HP-UX implemented shared memory in a weird way...

question - can asp be run as cgi???

2000-05-19 Thread Charles Dalsass
Hey dudes, new poster here. I've got a project which the client has said 'no mod perl' but only cgi and perl. They've got a really powerful machine, but are 'afraid' of using mod_perl (because of memory issues, administration etc). Performance should not be an issue. I also have an employee who

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Kreimendahl, Chad J
I work with David... and figured you guys might like to see what version's we're running... (which is already partially explained by the 1.23 comment below) (Apache) Server Version: Stronghold/2.4.2 Apache/1.3.6 C2NetEU/2410 (Unix) mod_perl/1.21 ApacheJServ/1.0 (Perl) Summary of my perl5 (5.0 pa

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
> So the PerlFreshRestart is still an issue. yep. > I thought it was resolved as well. one issue was resolved, that was triggered by MIME::foo messing with %INC while mod_perl was iterating over it. and, as vivek mentioned, dso mod_perl does a complete teardown (perl_destruct), but it leaks a

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "SB" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > SB> Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I > SB> thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with > SB> DSO? > > DSO works great for me n

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > Damn - forgot smiley. Sorry :-) doh. your reponse combined with my jetlag == foncusion :-)

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I > > thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with > > DSO? > > > > If I remember correctly the problem w

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I > thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with > DSO? > > If I remember correctly the problem was of broken internal pointers when > the DSO code was relo

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Vivek Khera
> "SB" == Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SB> Huh? Wasn't the mod_perl 1.23 supposed to fix this problem with DSO? I SB> thought to remove this item from the Guide. Are there still problems with SB> DSO? DSO works great for me now with the fixes in place of mod_perl 1.23. However,

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
> At 01:22 PM 5/19/00 -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: > >I think the title says it best: > >http://perl.apache.org/guide/troubleshooting.html#Evil_things_might_happen > _when_us > > Sweet. Thanks. So the problem is probably any number of weak module > issues. That's enough for me right now...

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > > I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with > > functions - use templates or stylesheets. > > you're probably right. but that's not what i was getting at. > i was trying to make points about the bigger picture in gen

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Drew Taylor
Matt, All I'm looking for is the fastest way to print sticky form elements. I already use HTML::Template for the page templating engine (and it works very well!). I need to take a look at CGI v.3 beta to see if it answers some of my concerns about memory usage. Matt Sergeant wrote: > > On Fri,

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread David Veatch
At 01:22 PM 5/19/00 -0400, Geoffrey Young wrote: >I think the title says it best: >http://perl.apache.org/guide/troubleshooting.html#Evil_things_might_happen _when_us Sweet. Thanks. So the problem is probably any number of weak module issues. That's enough for me right now... turning it of

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Honza Pazdziora
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 06:08:41PM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with > functions - use templates or stylesheets. At the very moment, I have a problem to find arguments to persuate my colleagues to accept this vision. Do you

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
> I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with > functions - use templates or stylesheets. you're probably right. but that's not what i was getting at. i was trying to make points about the bigger picture in general. trying to answer "why write something in c that's

RE: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread Geoffrey Young
> -Original Message- > From: David Veatch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 11:48 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem > > > Greetings, > > [i sent this once, but think it got hung up at the mail server... my > apologies if thi

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MS" == Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> I would say that the bigger picture is definitely not generating HTML with MS> functions - use templates or stylesheets. Templates (especially ones that let you iterate over arrays) are the way to go, in my book, for generating regular

YAMPGSE (yet another mod_perl guide search engine)

2000-05-19 Thread Vivek Khera
I've been fooling around with the nextrieve engine for several sites I maintain, and I figured I'd give it a whirl on the mod_perl guide. Since the guide is a bunch of very large pages, this search also uses the split-up version that Randy's search has. Thanks to Randy for providing the script t

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > personally, i like to have generic things written in c, things that won't > change much or at all after they are first implemented (not including bug > shaking). e.g. Apache::Request. both c and Perl are great languages and > blend very well togethe

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > Well, my point was that the decision to code something in C should be done > because it offers an overwhelming (orders of magnitude) improvement, > preferably on more than one front (speed, memory, ease of maintenance > (haha) ). small savings here and ther

[ANNOUNCE] AxKit 0.65

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
This release of AxKit adds XSP support. XSP is a script embedded XML language that is language and output agnostic. All big words, translated to: You can write XSP pages in Perl, Java or Javascript (*). http://xml.sergeant.org/axkit/ Details on XSP: http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/xsp.html

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 May 2000, raptor wrote: > > > > > hi, > > > > > > very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled > > > with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") > > > > > > this u

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Autarch
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Doug MacEachern wrote: > > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply generate plain text > > output. How slow is making a string in perl compared to doing it in C? > > I can't imagine there's to much of a difference. > > more like Perl is serious overkill :) >

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Randy Kobes
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2000, raptor wrote: > > > hi, > > > > very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled > > with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") > > > > this under KDE viewer, now will try netscape ...!! > > it's not

PerlFreshRestart Question/Problem

2000-05-19 Thread David Veatch
Greetings, [i sent this once, but think it got hung up at the mail server... my apologies if this already went through] I've run into some interesting behaviors with the PerlFreshRestart directive. If I understand correctly, this directive is supposed to force modules to reload when you exec

Re: Prb: Apache::DB plus Perl 5.6 doesn't break

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Jeremy Howard wrote: > Thanks heaps, Doug--moving require Apache::DB/Apache::DB->init to the > top fixed it! kool! > Previously I had 'use Apache' 1st, which worked fine under the "old" > version... It's funny the things that change between versions, isn't it? > In fact, A

Re: Prb: Apache::DB plus Perl 5.6 doesn't break

2000-05-19 Thread Jeremy Howard
> i am able to set breakpoints no problem with 5.6.0 (perl-current, > actually). i would suggest stripping back your Perl config to something > simple (i tested with b Apache::Status::handler) and make sure > require Apache::DB/Apache::DB->init is the first piece of Perl code to > run. > T

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, raptor wrote: > hi, > > very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled > with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") > > this under KDE viewer, now will try netscape ...!! it's not the client -- it's a bug. This happened after Randy has made

Re: Prb: Apache::DB plus Perl 5.6 doesn't break

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
i hadn't tried Apache::DB with newer Perl since 5.005_6x-ish, there was a fix that went into version 0.06 for that, are you using 0.06? i am able to set breakpoints no problem with 5.6.0 (perl-current, actually). i would suggest stripping back your Perl config to something simple (i tested with

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread raptor
hi, very interesting. Search for : "statinc" returns nothing and the box get filled with "tatinc" instead "statinc" ?!?!:") this under KDE viewer, now will try netscape ...!!

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote: > eg I think there was a thread on this list way back about OO method calls > versus direct package references... and people said that OO method calls > have a lot of overhead, but I think in later versions of Perl, OO method > call paths are cach

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, brian moseley wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: > > > .= concatenation is way faster > > i don't have any results to back up my claim. therefore, > my words are eaten :) > > i was convinced tho, even way back before you came to cp. i > wonder what convi

Re: Want to work at a Game company?

2000-05-19 Thread raptor
On Thu, 18 May 2000, ___cliff rayman___ wrote: > legitimate job offers from a reputable company are never spam. > especially if your salary is not more than ~$150-$200 per month :"( sorry for the off-topic iVAN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Autarch wrote: > C seems like serious overkill for something to simply generate plain text > output. How slow is making a string in perl compared to doing it in C? > I can't imagine there's to much of a difference. more like Perl is serious overkill :) SV's are BIG, noti

Re: writing code that works on machines with or without mod_perl

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Kenneth Lee wrote: > > > modperlers, > > > > does it make sense if i put some mod_perl specific codes inside > > an eval() so that the code runs on machines that have or haven't > > mod_perl installed? > > > > eval <<'MOD_PER

Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar)

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
> i do think that doug's separation of responsibilities into > classes is the right one. your widget toolkit probably > shouldn't be named Apache::HTML tho, unless it's actually > using the apache api in some fashion. one reason i was thinking Apache::HTML is so we can use ap_pool for allocations

Re: passing Apache::File to XS code that expects FILE *?

2000-05-19 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "DM" == Doug MacEachern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > DM> On Wed, 17 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >> Well, this may be true, but if you load IO::File before startup then it's > >> not too big a deal... > > DM> but it still adds a great deal

RE: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
> > That would be nice to see. I'm afraid I'll continue on working on guide. > > So if there anyone with a few free minutes on his hands, he/she might like > > to contribute something back to community ;) > > > > Ideally, when we complete the tuning of the search engine, we will be able > > to hav

RE: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Gerald Richter
> > That would be nice to see. I'm afraid I'll continue on working on guide. > So if there anyone with a few free minutes on his hands, he/she might like > to contribute something back to community ;) > > Ideally, when we complete the tuning of the search engine, we will be able > to have the whol

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: > > > Another thing that was configured in is that words have > > to be at least 3 characters long, which seems reasonable, > > and also there's some stopwords that don't get indexed, > > as they're too common. T

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Fri, 19 May 2000, Ged Haywood wrote: > Hi all, > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: > > > > The :: are stripped on the fly, since these cannot be used in index, so > > > when you look for Foo::Bar you are actually looking for 'Foo && Bar'. > > > > That's a limitation of swish-e - you

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Stas Bekman
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 2000, Stas Bekman wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 May 2000, Vivek Khera wrote: > > > > > looks good... one minor issue with the stickyness of the next search > > > feature: > > > > > > type "lexical file handles" in your original search. the "e

New Module (was Re: RFC: Apache::Request::Forms (or something similar))

2000-05-19 Thread Francesc Guasch
I have my own module for doing this job, sorry I missed many posts of this thread but here is what I do: - The target is automatically : add , update, select data from a table reading data typed by the user. - I didn't want to use the Apache api, so it even can be used out of apache, so I ca

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2000-05-19 Thread Raphaël Grandjean
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Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: > Another thing that was configured in is that words have > to be at least 3 characters long, which seems reasonable, > and also there's some stopwords that don't get indexed, > as they're too common. This list of stopwords is built > by hand - so far it on

Re: [preview] Search engine for the Guide

2000-05-19 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi all, On Thu, 18 May 2000, Randy Kobes wrote: > > The :: are stripped on the fly, since these cannot be used in index, so > > when you look for Foo::Bar you are actually looking for 'Foo && Bar'. > > That's a limitation of swish-e - you can configure it to > index characters like $, !, ... as