Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread David Kusumoto
In my view, this is a creative/iconoclastic/against-the-grain ad. I don't know many businesses that can effectively market in several directions at once, e.g., touting good results for premium items and great buys for lesser items, the latter a means to reach shallow pocket common collectors

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Franc
I have to disagree with you, David. This pitch has too much contradictory content. If you add up how many items in this ad sold for under $10, you get a total of 268,377. At the benchmark of under $14, the total is a whopping 478,400. That might be very attractive to the buyer of low-end movie

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Bruce Hershenson
Do you think you could find *ANYONE *in the entire world who would pay $478,400 for those 57,000 items? Or $300,000 or even $200,000? If so, send them to me because I can easily put together a better group of similar material for that price! The people who send us that low end stuff are mostly

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Franc
Whether or not someone would spend $475K to buy 57,000 items is not at all the point. All I'm trying to express to you is that your ad is not a good pitch for a potential consignor of low-end items especially when you deduct your comission from those sales under $15, that's all and you might want

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread David Kusumoto
* That's an interesting way to look at this, Franc, and you're not wrong. But I tend to believe that for consignors, if 57,000 of our items sold for under $14 in 2012, fetching $478,400 - then such items, one could argue - might be so less desired - that they might've fetched

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Franc
Because there are many dealers who buy material from Bruce at his under $14 low prices and then resell these same items at a profit on Ebay, their own websites and/or the websites of other dealers that accept consignments, I can only reiterate that a consignor might not find Bruce's results on

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Bruce Hershenson
And I can only reiterate that the vast majority of those 57,000 items came from people who got them for nothing, were offered next-to-nothing for them, and didn't want a new job selling them one by one. Very few were from collectors, except for those who simply wanted to get rid of all they had.

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread phil
We are just an all-purpose auction house who can auction ALL the items any consignor has, and we are the only major auction house who can do this with large collections. What Bruce said in this one line says it all. He is running a very successful all-purpose auction house, just like hundreds

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Franc
It's called a Discussion Forum. This discussion initiated by David was about a sales pitch, not about whether someone's business is successful or not. As I said in one of the e-mails in this thread, I'm not trying to denigrade Bruce's operation at all. I just don't think that last ad was a good

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread phil
Thanks for clarifying what MOPO is, Franc. Never been quite sure all these years. Phil -Original Message- From: Franc [mailto:fdav...@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 09:26 PM To: p...@cinemarts.com, MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: RE: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread David Kusumoto
Franc's point is that Bruce's ad is, in his opinion, ineffective. He's not demanding people agree with him; he's just expressing an opinion. He also notes that a consignor might not find Bruce's results on low-end items to be an incentive to consign. This could be true for

Re: [MOPO] Once again, in 2012, over HALF the items we auctioned sold for $14 or less!

2013-01-12 Thread Bruce Hershenson
I see my business as a *SUPPLEMENT* to all dealers' businesses, and that the wise dealer uses *BOTH *sides of my business to *IMPROVE* theirs! There are only a tiny number of dealers out there who have not consigned to us (some solely consign utter crap they have been unable to sell any other