Re: [MD] Psychopathic Philosophers?

2013-09-10 Thread MarshaV
dmb, Regarding illusion, yes, illusory in the sense of having independent or absolute existence. I have explained this many times, and yes, I'm sticking to it. Marsha On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:43 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote: What's striking about DT's bizarre

Re: [MD] Psychopathic Philosophers?

2013-09-10 Thread MarshaV
dmb, Marsha: When you wrote to Dave Thomas Way to pick sides, Dave. ..., that's reifying 'sides' as having independent existence from your monkey mind. Marsha On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:43 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote: [dmb] What's striking about DT's bizarre mockery is

Re: [MD] Psychopathic Philosophers?

2013-09-10 Thread MarshaV
Marsha: Be it the case, dmb, that you want to accuse me of reifying your monkey mind, I shall remind you that I hold all static patterns of value (stuff in the encyclopedia) as hypothetical (supposed but not necessarily real or true). Static value can still be ranked, of course, like your

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread David Harding
[djh] From wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_Paths_to_liberation#Noble_Eightfold_Path) The most notable of these descriptions is the Noble Eightfold Path, which was presented in the first discourse of the Buddha and is considered the essence of the Buddhist path (magga). The

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread MarshaV
David, On Sep 10, 2013, at 7:57 AM, David Harding da...@goodmetaphysics.com wrote: [djh] From wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_Paths_to_liberation#Noble_Eightfold_Path) The most notable of these descriptions is the Noble Eightfold Path, which was presented in the first

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread Joseph Maurer
Hi DMB and All, Imho you are wrestling with elephants! Good luck! In SOM there is no evolution, reality is SO. The first adjective modifying reality is quality followed by the second adjective quantity, time, place, etc. Moq proposes Quality as metaphysical reality in existence. Evolution

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread david buchanan
Marsha said to djh: I accept the MoQ's idea that the world is nothing but value. From a Dynamic Quality (unpatterened) view nothing is right or wrong, better or worse. From the static (patterned) view a pattern exist because it is useful. I also accept that on the static (conventional)

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread MarshaV
dmb, If I am to address your complaint I will need a little more information. Please specify your exact complaint with each statement. And please explain to which of the statements each quote that you've provided applies, and exactly how it specifically justifies your compliant. Marsha

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread ADRIE KINTZIGER
(Adrie) 2. From a Dynamic Quality (unpatterened) view nothing is right or wrong, better or worse.(Marsha) One of the biggest mistakes of bhuddism, is to take indifference as a perspective, a horizon to travel towards. 2013/9/11 MarshaV val...@att.net dmb, If I am to address your

Re: [MD] Questions for Marsha.

2013-09-10 Thread MarshaV
Andie, The statement has nothing to do with Buddhism, or traveling towards, or a perspective, or indifference. What can one say of the unpatterned, the undifferentiated? The fearful may project it as hell or chaos; the optimistic may project it as heaven or bliss. All goodness, because it