Hi Ron
Your quite right that this stuff has a lot of history, I've read a lot of this
stuff in 30 years of study, but where I used the white moon in a black
background I am trying to indicate the differences is percepts that allow us to
latch on to something in experience to base all our
Hi Ron
[Ron]
...you seem to insist on the primacy of an external
independent prime creator of pattern that human concepts correspond to and
mirror when
the Pragmatic assertion is the primacy of human imposition on experience.
DM: No I insist there are differences and patterns in primary
Dave M. said:
Your quite right that this stuff has a lot of history, I've read a lot of this
stuff in 30 years of study, but where I used the white moon in a black
background I am trying to indicate the differences is percepts that allow us to
latch on to something in experience to base all
Hi Ron
I believe it is not idle, it tells us the basis of our knowledge is in
experience, it is the basis of empirical evidence and even with all the
problems you mention quite rightly below, it is exactly what we use to do all
the sciences and interestingly and importantly it is much
Hi Ron
[Ron]
...you seem to insist on the primacy of an external
independent prime creator of pattern that human concepts correspond to and
mirror when
the Pragmatic assertion is the primacy of human imposition on experience.
DM: No I insist there are differences and patterns in primary
Hi Ron
Yes pretty much so, you cannot really express what a banana tastes like but
you know what is or is not a banana taste, so there is identity and pattern,
science of course loves to measure, we can all share experiences of measuring
things and agree measurements, this is far from full
Dave,
Enjoyed The Jung and the Restless, I was wondering if you saw any
co-relationship
between the hero's journey and Paul's two context paper.
Thnx
-Ron
From: david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com
To: moq_disc...@moqtalk.org moq_disc...@moqtalk.org
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:45 AM
DM said to Ron:
The pre-conceptual patterns I recognise are found in experience,...
Andre:
Trying to grasp what you are asserting David...and what I come up with
is that the 'pre-conceptual patterns' you talk about are what is brought
INTO the experience by the experiencer. This leads me to
Hi MarshaV and all,
IMHO neutral experience comes before the attraction repulsion mandate.
Evolution is neutral following reality for definition. Choice (free will)
harbors attraction and repulsion. DQ/SQ is the foundation for choice prior
to attraction and repulsion. Intelligence matters.
Ron said:
Trying to classify percepts as primary or secondary is idle, Bertram Russel
said the belief in the existence of things outside my own biography must be
regarded as a prejudice. but our justifications for such a belief is pragmatic
as C.S. Peirce said let us not pretend to doubt in
dmb,
One way I've heard it differentiated would be:
Enlightenment: the wisdom of Emptiness
Nirvana: the end of suffering
And another question might be, does selfless mean without ego and without sense
organs?
Marsha
On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:44 PM, david buchanan
Fri, 11 Oct 2013, Ron said:
Dave, Enjoyed The Jung and the Restless, I was wondering if you saw any
co-relationship between the hero's journey and Paul's two context paper.
dmb says:
Thanks for reading. Glad you enjoyed it.
I thought about many things while writing that article but Paul's
Hi DMB and All,
Knowledge is an aftertaste of experience determining a true or false
reality. Quality, DQ, is existence. There can be no dispute about quality!
It is determined in SOM to be an adjective. In MOQ quality is determined to
be a noun. A dispute requires definition! There is
Hi DMB/Ron
Quite a lot of crap below as usual attributed to me by DMB that I have never
said, wonder why DMB can't argue with what I have actually said, never mind eh!
Here is a real empirical example of what real people experience that is
impossible for DMB to explain I believe given the
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